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need some advice for father.

Well let my father play with my phone for a bit and then we went to the att store so he could play with the captivate. He really likes it and will be getting one next month. Just trying to find the best price for it.
 
How interesting. We all did help Iron Horse's Dad huh?

Anyways I got Captivate on Oct 4th and the GPS, other things works very nicely after the last OTA update. So I am happy with my choice.

Iphone is best smart phone (some says that still), but because it comes with all the loaded feature and no space to customize it. What makes Android good is, if u have patient and common sense, u can turn your android phone into most powerful gadget.

Come on we have fix for everything now. GPS, lagfix, or whatever...just play with it and have it on ur way....and save 200 bucks and call drops (in iPhone)...
 
A fix for the GPS? Really? LOL... I think the majority of users have come to accept that the GPS will never work and thus why you don't see so many GPS threads these days. Another thing to keep in mind is that most users are over their 30 days and can't get out of the phone, so again, they've accepted the reality of buying this phone was a mistake. Then there's a small segment that just want to hack the phone and play with ROMs, those are the happy campers.
 
I am using my GPS and its working really good. In fact its close to being accurate. May be because my phone is new thats why.

Also can you tell me what makes you say people are just stuck with this phone as they cant return it?

I mean I am still in 30 days time limit, I can get it change if you can enlighten with disadvantages of this phone.
 
I may be in the minority here, but I currently have no desire to hack and play with ROMs, and I'm very satisfied with my decision to get the Captivate. I'm on my second phone (the first had the shutdown problem) but I wouldn't trade it for anything currently available. So what if the GPS has a hiccup every now and then and shows me 50ft off the road. Over all it's accurate enough to be usable.

I don't care what phone you look at, every one of them is going to have its own set of issues. Crapple can keep the iPhone. Every iPhone 4 I've touched I've been able to completely kill the signal in 30 seconds. And putting a case on it is a fix? Spare me. At least the Galaxy S GPS "problems" have a chance of being fixed. Apple won't even acknowledge their antenna problems.

Anyway, I like my Captivate. I think I'll keep it.
 
I'm also on my 2nd Captivate and yes the 1st one had the random shutdown, thats the only reason i exchanged it. I dont really use the GPS except for some of the apps so i'm not really to stressed out about the GPS problem. i still preferr this phone with it's imperfections over a Iphone .
 
I am using both Iphone 4 and captivate.
captivate: Some people had problem with lag and GPS. I don't so don't know what the heck with that. I blame samsung for inconsistant built.
Iphone 4: Average user.

I would get the iphone 4 any way if he doesn't like it then sell it and buy captivate. He will make $$$ by doing it this way.
 
Has nothing to do with whether the phone is new or a couple of months old, the entire line has problems including models on other carriers. Make sure you have aGPS off, you might be seeing aGPS results leading you to think the GPS is working.

Also read through the GPS thread (Sticky) and you'll see plenty of entries about the GPS issue, it has been beaten to a pulp. JH7 update, according to Samsung, was to improve performance but it had little effect for me. After seeing the results, I started contacting AT&T endlessly and was able to get an iPhone4.

I do miss the Captivate but both phones are good solutions and I needed one that works. I still follow the forum to see how things are progressing along, would like to jump back to Android in the future. It seems like Samsung is once again delaying the Froyo release, which also includes a GPS fix/performance improvement. This could again put folks with 30 day return windows in danger and if I were to be one of them, I would take the phone back. Like the poster above, I wasn't into making 1000 changes or using different ROMs to get results, I wanted it to work out of the box which as it stands today it doesn't. Even the ROMs don't solve the GPS problems.
 
@ Cuerbo

So you are saying you liked the captivate, but just because of GPS issue, you exchanged it for iPhone?

If thats the case than, I should keep my captivate as I dont use GPS at all. And with the promise of Froyo coming in couple of month, I will keep my phone.

Also I read at many forums that people got replacement phones. I dont have any problem with the one I have right now, but I ordered for a new one as replacement. :D

Also, everyone loves Android phone becoz of its capability to customize and make 1000 changes. I think if u dont like, u made a good choice to go for easy to use iphone.....
 
lol its always amusing that people seemed to get offended or tease others when they say are getting an iphone

and it's even more amusing that Android users call apple users fanboys and elitist who think they are better then other users of other OS i.e android, blackberry, webos, symbian etc. just because they use apple yet Android users are the biggest elitist i have seen especially based on this

"Iphones are for average people...basically implying those who lack knowledge of rooting/jailbreaking is what they say when they say this....while android is more so for us people who are "Smart" and knowledgeable when it comes to rooting"

rant over.....

I am starting to get used to my captivate
The signal issue is not as bad and the GPS doesnt bother me as much.
When compared to the constant need to have itunes, i will keep my captivate....until word of a better Android phone coming in the near future or if i fall in love with windows phone 7

issue right now is lag...but i dont use launcher pro because i actually like samsungs widgets
 
Its very obvious why people get offended when they say they are getting an iphone...this is android forum website. we all dont like iphone thats why we bought android phones.

Also I agree with the statement quoted by you. iphone is very good for people who want everything on a phone just out of box. Android is for people who likes to customize and play with the technology.

lag can be fix by using Voodoo. Even without rooting.
 
I see Android users on Apple forums and while yes, the treatment might not be nice at time, for the most part they tend to have normal exchanges. I used to be a Captivate owner and whatever little time I had to work with Android enjoyed it. My comments about not going with Captivate have nothing to do with Android and all to do with Samsung.

So cheer up and learn to have a civil discussion, we are only talking about the facts here. GPS is broken, why not tell someone looking to buy the phone the truth? You generally see the comments of "It works for me" but when you dig in, you realize aGPS was in used or the minute they drive around it loses lock. Some folks don't like rooting or loading ROMs, what's wrong with that?

I'm not here to start an Apple vs Android fight but would like to express my opinions, after all, most of us are here to have an honest exchange. I've been on both sides of the fence, Apple and Android, so tend to compare a bit more and express a bit more when opinions are asked. Don't take it personal, just calling it like I see it.
 
oh i wasnt taking it personal(it doesnt bother me)
like i said it is amusing that people would get offended
if someone wanted to get an iphone over a captivate

I just find it funny but same here...i dont want to start a Android(Captivate) vs ios debate either(they never end lol)
 
The Android vs iphone will always be, just get the mobile phone you want and enjoy.
 
If he wants a complete phone, do not get the Captivate. I regret not taking it back every time I try to use it to get me somewhere. I repeat-DO NOT GET THIS PHONE. The GPS will never be fixed unless there is a recall. At some point Samsung will throw their hands in the air and say "Sorry about you luck guys." You can count on that.


I completely disagree.

GPS worked fine on my phone since day 1. In fact, if it hadn't I wouldn't have kept it. Non-functioning-gps would have been a dealbreaker.

OP,
If your dad is at all "geeky" he will eventually love the Captivate. However, if he is a wanna-be-geek, then the iPhone is better for him.

Does he have an iTunes account? If yes, then it will be an easier transition for him to get the iPhone than Android, as you have to be somewhat geeky to find the right apps and methods to connect to iTunes from an Android phone.

On the other hand, iPhone as a "phone" does not get high marks. So if he actually uses his cell phone to make a lot of calls, he would be better off with the Captivate as it has great phone connectivity and sound.

I would suggest basing his choice on how *he* would *use* the phone. Depending on the answer to that, your choice will be clear.

Good luck.
 
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