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Houstatlanavegas

Houstatlanavegas

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Never thought i'd see the day where im actually scared of my phone. lol. but nevertheless getting to the point at hand. i really truly want to root my phone but am really truly terrified of messing it up permantaly because this is my only conection to work and i dont have money to replace it at full retail. i dont know about you guys (and girls) but i know a place called world of wireless in minnesota. i wondered if they know how to root the eris. but then again, i was thinking about getting the mytouch through Tmobile and selling off the eris. anyone have any opinion on what i just Said(typed) any advice or words of wisdom would be greatly appreciated. :D:D
 
theres a myriad of methods out there for rooting now...... everything from 1 click to manual......... to this day Ive still never heard of anyone 'truly' bricking an eris.... just rumors and people who are confused about what a brick really is......

IMO theres no reason not to root at this point........ its easy to do...... its easy to reverse...... its painless and trouble free...... and there are countless benefits to being rooted

as with anything theres always a risk...... even if its 1 in a billion you might just be that 1
 
copestag said:
theres a myriad of methods out there for rooting now...... everything from 1 click to manual......... to this day Ive still never heard of anyone 'truly' bricking an eris.... just rumors and people who are confused about what a brick really is......

IMO theres no reason not to root at this point........ its easy to do...... its easy to reverse...... its painless and trouble free...... and there are countless benefits to being rooted

as with anything theres always a risk...... even if its 1 in a billion you might just be that 1
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Where's this '1 click' you speak of? And how long and intensive is doing it 'manually'?
 
I'll start off by saying that although I am an IT manager I've never attempted to "hack" my phone before nor am I very skilled in Unix/Linux. With all the instructions on this site though I managed to root my phone in about 10 minutes and I love the new ROM with overclocking. The lag was just driving me nuts and I felt like I didn't even want to use my cell phone to make a call because it was too much of a hassle. Make sure you read all of the directions a few times though before you start the process :). Good luck.
 
if you already have SDK on your computer then the manual process takes less than 10 minutes

the longest part of the process is d/l files...... it actually takes about 30 seconds to actually do the rooting using the manual method........ theres about 1/2 dozen commands you type in and its done

I personally did the manual method because I wanted to see what commands were used and what they were used for...... all part of learning about adb commands for me.........

I think Jcase just released a 1 click app in the 'all things root' subforum.... looks like you just install the app and click 1 button and it does it all for ya
 
You're still on the fence about this? LoL. Thought you would have taken the plunge. I seriously would do it. I did it and I didn't know ANYTHING about root. And to be honest, I don't have any EVO 4g, Incredible, or Droid X envy. I love this phone more and more everyday. You have AMPLE resources on customization of your phone once rooted, and the benefits really are incredible. And like stated above, I don't think I've heard of anyone bricking your phone. And with the wealth of knowledge here, its hard to get truly stuck. Maybe you could get on here and work with someone to help you step by step. Im sure someone will be willing to do that.
 
You all are the best! Seriously, I'm not just saying that either. I think I'm getting very close to doing it now.
I actually wanna do it while I'm at work, but can't d/l anything on this computer.
 
Go for it Bishop!! It took me about 2 hours to root my phone because I was being stupid. I rooted without a custom rom also as I just wanted to overclock. I will be adding a rom here shortly though. Just gotta figure out which one.
 
tproctor said:
Go for it Bishop!! It took me about 2 hours to root my phone because I was being stupid. I rooted without a custom rom also as I just wanted to overclock. I will be adding a rom here shortly though. Just gotta figure out which one.
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Stop bullying me!!! I'm joking.
Actually, that WAS the last straw though. I'm gonna go for it! I got a few questions still, but I'll keep looking in the root threads, cuz I'm sure somebody will come in and say to do that. But so far, I'm not finding the answers.
 
Bishop said:
Stop bullying me!!! I'm joking.
Actually, that WAS the last straw though. I'm gonna go for it! I got a few questions still, but I'll keep looking in the root threads, cuz I'm sure somebody will come in and say to do that. But so far, I'm not finding the answers.
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What questions do you have? By the way it took about 10 minutes to root. I'm telling you, once you've done it, you'll wonder why you waited so long. It's the kind of thing that actually looks harder than it is to do. There's a whole lotta info on these boards and I think it is starting to get overwhelming for people looking to root.
 
I've been wondering recently, if it our phones are very capable of running OC'd at 710 or better, then why is the processor throttled down to 528? Seems kind of a waste of processor power. I mean, it really has no major effect on battery life
 
LED said:
There's a whole lotta info on these boards and I think it is starting to get overwhelming for people looking to root.
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That's what's getting me...

I've read the tutorial on rooting, and will print it out and do it at home.
1. Once rooted, how do I overclock?
2. If I don't select some other ROM initally, how will my phone be? (will it be just like it was, except rooted now)
3. If I choose a specific ROM, which one(s) are just a simple one that's Overclocked, WiFi Hotspot, improved battery, and leaves things pretty much the same as they were before rooted?
4. Was there a post/link somewhere that showed how to unroot, and go back to just a 2.1 Eris?

Listen, thanks, and I mean THANKS for the help and useful information you've all been giving. Hopefully it'll be not only helpful to myself, but anybody else that's on the fence like me.
 
Hypo Luxa said:
I've been wondering recently, if it our phones are very capable of running OC'd at 710 or better, then why is the processor throttled down to 528? Seems kind of a waste of processor power. I mean, it really has no major effect on battery life
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Its most likely because the chip manufacturer has deemed 528 to be the most stable clock speed while maintaining an acceptable balance between performance and battery life. We may see 710 (or higher) as stable, but we don't know for sure if it is truly stable in a wide variety of conditions. We overclockers make up a very small % of the total user base. And as a side effect of this, we overclockers now have bragging rights.
 
Bishop said:
That's what's getting me...

I've read the tutorial on rooting, and will print it out and do it at home.
1. Once rooted, how do I overclock?
2. If I don't select some other ROM initally, how will my phone be? (will it be just like it was, except rooted now)
3. If I choose a specific ROM, which one(s) are just a simple one that's Overclocked, WiFi Hotspot, and leaves things pretty much the same as they were before rooted?
4. Was there a post/link somewhere that showed how to unroot, and go back to just a 2.1 Eris?

Listen, thanks, and I mean THANKS for the help and useful information you've all been giving. Hopefully it'll be not only helpful to myself, but anybody else that's on the fence like me.
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Bishop,

Glad to help. I would first recommend that you just root and do not run a custom rom yet. That's what I did. I rooted, and flashed Zanfur's OC kernel so I could overclock. This does not require any wiping, so you'll not lose any apps or settings.

1) To OC, you'll need to flash Zanfur's OC kernel which can be found on the XDA site. You'll also need to purchase SetCPU from the market or download for free from the XDA site. There are good SetCPU tutorials, so let me find one for you and post a link.
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-eris/98457-overclocking-hmm.html


2) If you don't flash a custom ROM, your phone will be just as is, only rooted. There is no discernable difference. If you overclock, then things will be a little snappier. In my case, I found removing unwanted apps to be a big difference in how the phone responds (maybe more so than OC'ing itself)

3) Probably PlainJane2.1 or xtrSENSE. Honestly, I would keep 2.1 stock overclocked, although I am not sure if I can do wifi tether without a custom rom. I will try to see what happens.
Edit: Wireless Tether works fine on Stock 2.1

4) Yes, there is a 2.1RUU application that reverts to stock 2.1 unrooted. I will find the link and post it. Edit: http://androidforums.com/htc-droid-eris/92096-verizons-ruu-official-2-1-droid-eris.html

Hope that helps.
 
LED said:
Bishop,

That's what I did. I rooted, and flashed Zanfur's OC kernel so I could overclock. This does not require any wiping, so you'll not lose any apps or settings.
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That just sealed the deal for me!!
THANKS so much for the help. I'll keep checking back and will print this out. If nothing comes up, I'll be rooted and running right after work today. I'll be cool again, YAY!!
Thanks LED, and all others!
 
To add to the advice that LED gave you, if you root the manual way flash engtools.zip once you have the Amon_Ra recovery. You need the superuser access in order to overclock and engtools3.zip will give you this. Good luck and if you run into problems obviously you see how many are here to help.
 
Can I chime in with some very basic questions here? I just did the one click root and now I think I want to try plain jane 2.0. Under downloads it says to flash about 5 diffrerent things:plain jane 2.0, fonts, bloatware remover, etc. My question is... because I have never done anything to my phone except flash 2.1v3...do I download all those to my computer, then put them all on my sd card at once and flash them all at once by rebooting holding power and vol up? Please be nice :)
 
karib said:
Can I chime in with some very basic questions here? I just did the one click root and now I think I want to try plain jane 2.0. Under downloads it says to flash about 5 diffrerent things:plain jane 2.0, fonts, bloatware remover, etc. My question is... because I have never done anything to my phone except flash 2.1v3...do I download all those to my computer, then put them all on my sd card at once and flash them all at once by rebooting holding power and vol up? Please be nice :)
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I have no experience with that particular ROM, if I did I would be glad to help. My suggestion would be to repost this in that Plain Jane 2.0 thread and you will most likely get plenty of help in there.
 
Now I'm thinking maybe I jumped the gun here. The more I read, reboot into recovery (?) to partition the sd card for a2sd, reading about nan backups, crap... I don't know what any of this stuff is.
 
LED said:
Its most likely because the chip manufacturer has deemed 528 to be the most stable clock speed while maintaining an acceptable balance between performance and battery life. We may see 710 (or higher) as stable, but we don't know for sure if it is truly stable in a wide variety of conditions. We overclockers make up a very small % of the total user base. And as a side effect of this, we overclockers now have bragging rights.
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LED is absolutely right! Aslo, there is another important reason to be careful with overclocking (OC).
As you increase the clock speed, the power dissipation of the CPU and thus the power consumption increases. The increased power dissipation and temperature of the chip decreases its lifetime. The increased battery temperature as a result of increased current drainage definitely reduces the lifetiime of the Li-ion battery.

When you experiment with OC to find the "sweet spot", the frequency where the OS is not crashing or locking up is a gamble: if you OC just to the max point where it seems stable, I guarantee that under other circumstances, when you run more CPU intensive apps - it will.

I would recommend doing OC only minimally, and only if you really feel you should.

Olny my 2c worth knowing a bit about chips and stuff.
Peter
 
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