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Nexus 5 Pre-Release/Speculation Thread
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Cronis
Android Enthusiast
from what i understand they have to shrink pixels more on small sensors with high MP (sony 13mp cam used in the LG G2 and S4). its easier to get larger pixels in lower MP cams so 1.4 micron in a 8 MP sensor is good but not crazy good.
however here is the link and a quote from it "Meizu MX3 has an 8-megapixel back-illuminated camera (IMX179 sensor chip, 1.4μm photosensitive pixels)"
World's cheapest octa-core phone Meizu MX3 full specifications and details | YaoWebNet : Cell phones news and reviews.
Meizu MX3 - Full phone specifications
if you google (sony IMX179 sensor 1.4 pixel) it gives you a lot of results from Chinese sites, it is after all a Chinese phone.
breadnatty08
pain rustique
Anyone else really bummed about the battery size?
If previous Nexus devices lacked anything, it was battery life. Disappointed they couldn't fit the size of the G2's in it.
If previous Nexus devices lacked anything, it was battery life. Disappointed they couldn't fit the size of the G2's in it.
jhawkkw
Chinchillin'
Anyone else really bummed about the battery size?
If previous Nexus devices lacked anything, it was battery life. Disappointed they couldn't fit the size of the G2's in it.
Could it have bigger? Perhaps. But I think everyone is going to be surprised at how long it will last given the efficiency of the chipset. The Nexus 4 had the same battery capacity as the extended gnex battery and last twice as long. This is going to be a bigger battery with an even more efficient chipset ago I'm expecting 6 hours of screen time.
The screen is the biggest power hog of a phone, not the CPU. And now this phone has more pixels to push and a larger screen area to backlight.
jhawkkw
Chinchillin'
While this is true in most cases, in others it's the data radio. First generation LTE radios were so bad for the battery that most people didn't even use them. Even still, something has to work to push all those pixels to the screen and that would be the more efficient chipset, more specifically the Adreno 330 GPU. If the GPU isn't efficient, it doesn't matter how big the screen is.
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SHO_ONE
Android Enthusiast
I've grown tired of my S4 and was really thinking about getting the Moto X.... Until I remembered that the Nexus 5 would should / would be a better choice for so many reasons... No extended contract, quicker updates... etc... I just wish we had a solid release date.... It should be this month, right?
Rxpert83
Dr. Feelgood
That's what all the rumors are pointing to. No real date evidence yet though.
Yes, the more efficient the GPU is the better. Obviously. But that doesn't change the fact that the screen is still the biggest battery hog. Look at the GS4 & HTC One. They both have 1080p displays. But they are running a less efficient CPU and GPU, yet the screen still takes up more of the battery than anything else in most cases. And with the Nexus 5 it will be running the same resolution with a better CPU and GPU. Meaning the screen will consume even more battery compared to the previously mentioned flagships.
And yes, LTE radios used to be power hungry. But that argument isn't really relevant these days in most major flagships.
Nexus 4 vs Nexus 5 specs
Nexus 5 vs. Nexus 4 [Specs] – Droid Life
The battery life is intersting, but I have no idea where they got the data, maybe the service manual?
Nexus 5 vs. Nexus 4 [Specs] – Droid Life
The battery life is intersting, but I have no idea where they got the data, maybe the service manual?
Rxpert83
Dr. Feelgood
Haven't seen anything, but it sounds really interesting
LG G2 Is Official: 5.2" Display, 2.26GHz Snapdragon 800 Processor, 2GB RAM, 13MP Rear Camera, Android 4.2.2
"LG also used GRAM (Graphic RAM) in this phone, which reduces the display's energy use "by up to 26 percent on a still frame and increases overall usage time [...] by 10 percent.""
Apollofrost
Newbie
Alright, so will this work with Metro PCS?
jhawkkw
Chinchillin'
Metro has begun using T-Mobile GSM for their BYOP program. This phone will be compatible with T-Mobile so it should work on Metro once they certify it.
iowabowtech
root@android:/ #
Agreed. They should have replicated the G2's battery @3000 mAh. Why not? What reason could there possibly be to reduce the battery size when we are talking similar size phones by the same manufacturer released months apart? Makes no sense at all to me. I don't understand why they always seem to downsize the batteries in the Nexus line. Only reason I can come up with is that they run a leaner OS and I don't think that reasoning is sound. That should be an ADVANTAGE in battery savings not a tradeoff to allow a lesser battery.
Now granted, I do think the N5 will see similar up time as the G2...which is impressive. But I think it'll see less screen on time. And that's the only thing that kills my G2. When I'm using regular...1-2 days depending on activity level. When I'm gaming a lot...10-12 hours.
2 reasons, cost and size.
Google wants to keep the cost down, and the battery is a way to help.
The Nexus 5 looks to have small bezels, which is awesome. But it has small bezels with a 4.95" screen and the G2 has small bezels with a 5.2" screen. So the G2 might be bigger. Plus I believe the G2 is curved on the back. This gives more volume to add a bigger battery. And LG created a stepped battery to fill in the curved area better. The Nexus 5 does not look to be curved at all. Plus again, a stepped battery will likely bring price up.
iowabowtech
root@android:/ #
By $300 or so? Admittedly guessing on the retail cost difference of the phones but if history serves that could be in the ballpark ($350 vs $650). I don't think the difference in form factor from a G2 to a N5 makes much difference in production cost but who knows. I do agree with you about the size, there is a difference worth noting. I can understand a discrepancy there. Just didn't figure the mAh loss would be that great. Anyway, hopefully it'll work out to be a good blend of battery life to cost of phone for you guys. But after owning multiple Android phones with inferior batteries, it's become high on my list of needs.
Haha never said the battery difference is $300. They are also making the screen smaller, using different materials, different camera, and I'm sure less r&d went into it as LG spent a lot of money in r&d for the G2. Since Google is just basing the Nexus 5 off the G2, that certainly cuts r&d costs for Google.
Also a stepped battery is fairly new. Certainly new in mass produced smartphones (I think the Moto X is the only other phone to have this and it costs ~$600 off contract and has a lower resolution screen and a dual-core CPU). I have no idea of the cost increase. But I don't imagine it is a typical cost increase from 2300 to 3000 of a non-stepped battery.
Cronis
Android Enthusiast
I suspect this is just wishful thinking... def not going to get my hopes up
LG Nexus 5 pricing leaks; different battery size for each model
LG Nexus 5 pricing leaks; different battery size for each model
$650 isn't the cost to make the phone. For instance, IIRC, the Moto X was said to cost just north o $200 or $300 to make. The Nexus phone prices can be kept low since Google subsidizes LG, so it makes sense for them to cut some corners while keeping the main things like CPU, GPU, display, and other things current.
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