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Nexus 7 will be a flop

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Jason71

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No that's not what I think but it is what I think but it is what George Jones thinks Writing in "ITProPortal".

I quote "It's nice to have a monolithic search engine business to fall back on, that's for sure. This is a good thing because, while I still believe Android tablets will sell in massive numbers, the Nexus 7 will not. Google will be fortunate if it sells 10 times the 6,000 tablets Google gave away to developers at I/O."

I just thought I would post it becasue its funny.

Even if the Kindle fire had tapped out the US market ( which it hasn't) he fails to appreciate that the rest of the world never had the Fire in the first place. I would bet money there have been 60000 preorders in the UK alone so far.

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This Week in Tablets: Google's Android tablet is the Nexus 7 | ITProPortal.com
 
Yeah, stories like this where I wish Google/Asus would drop them a nice little note "PS, 5 days into pre-orders, and 5.5 million have been ordered... What was that you were saying? :)"
 
Compared to the iPad, yes it will be a flop. It will sell far less. But they have to start somewhere.

Compared to the Kindle Fire, I think it will be a success. In my opinion, the KF is really a reader with a few (understating, I know) apps. IF the N7 delivers what they claim and IF JB is as user-friendly as expected, the addition of the full Android Market will be a big boon for it. The KF can't do everything the N7 can do though the opposite is not true.
 
I think it's foolish to compare it to the iPad as it is to compare the KF to the iPad. It's a 7" vs 10" and the price point is completely different. You could buy 2-3 Nexuses (Nexi??) for the price of one iPad. It's just an apples to oranges comparison.
 
Well, I know Asus will release their 16gb version to stores. If they keep the bulk of their sales coming from the Play Store, then yeah it will be a complete flop a la the N1.
I just ordered mine, and it couldn't have been easier, but I'm one of the few who both a) use Android and b) make lots of purchases through the Play Store.

Amazon is too big of a giant to conquer and the KF is always on huge display right where I walk into Best Buy, so it's huge. I got one for my folks for Xmas since they wanted a dedicated e-reader and something to do a little browsing and perhaps play games. I know the N7 can do all that AND lots more, but it's going to take a lot of convincing to get folks to purchase it over the iPad.
 
A.Nonymous said:
I think it's foolish to compare it to the iPad as it is to compare the KF to the iPad. It's a 7" vs 10" and the price point is completely different. You could buy 2-3 Nexuses (Nexi??) for the price of one iPad. It's just an apples to oranges comparison.
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I hear what you're saying but don't completely agree. They certainly are different devices but this is Google's attempt at expanding their ecosystem into the tablet realm which is the same as Apple and the iPad.

Perhaps it will be a more accurate comparison when Apple outs their 7" tablet.
 
A.Nonymous said:
You could buy 2-3 Nexuses (Nexi??) for the price of one iPad. It's just an apples to oranges comparison.
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I'm suspect this will actually happen in quite a few households.

I'd also expect a huge "Welcome to the NEXUS 7" sale on apps, music,etc.... in the PLAY STORE once shipping begins.
 
RichSz said:
I hear what you're saying but don't completely agree. They certainly are different devices but this is Google's attempt at expanding their ecosystem into the tablet realm which is the same as Apple and the iPad.

Perhaps it will be a more accurate comparison when Apple outs their 7" tablet.
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If Apple comes out with a 7" tablet, then I think you can make a comparison. To me a 7" and a 10" are different use cases. I carry my 7" tablet every day. I wouldn't do that with a 10". It's just too big. But I"m not going to lounge around on the couch with my 7" in general.
 
I reckon this is the tablet that will get Android noticed in that market; so long as Google actually advertises it! I've never seen an Android tablet ad on tv, but I've seen loads of Apple ads so it's no wonder the public only think of one tablet when they go to buy one.

C'mon Google, get some tv ads running NOW!! :)
 
For the users Google has their target on to fit their model, the N7 will sell well.

Added: Very well

Now, if ASUS would be so kind to release the T370 (ungimped version) for about $50 more, as planned at some previous trade shows- prior to Google's shadow.
 
This'll sell like hotcakes, I'm certain of it. I own an iPad and a Tab 7.7. Friends family and work colleagues are always interested in buying until I tell them the price, which puts both absolutely in non impulse buy territory. The Nexus 7 will fill that gap, the KF deffo being its main rival. I'll be interested to see what Amazon come up with, effectively forces them to really up their game, which is great news for the consumer.
 
KOLIO said:
I'd also expect a huge "Welcome to the NEXUS 7" sale on apps, music,etc.... in the PLAY STORE once shipping begins.
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I certainly hope so. Google's app sales are the best... Honestly buying so many $.10 apps has gotten me hooked enough to where I am buying many more full priced apps. So excellent job by the Play Market team.
 
I think this thing will sell like hotcakes. Gives you everything a kindle fire would and much more IMHO at the same price point. Besides, you get the pure Google OS and experience (as opposed to the Fire), and being a Nexus product means it will get great software support (updates) in the future.
 
brig2221 said:
I think this thing will sell like hotcakes. Gives you everything a kindle fire would and much more IMHO at the same price point. Besides, you get the pure Google OS and experience (as opposed to the Fire), and being a Nexus product means it will get great software support (updates) in the future.
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I think it will sell well not because of what it can do, but solely based on what the media is saying about the device. "This is Google's iPad" is what is being ingrained into people's minds. Then they'll see "$200 iPad" and want to give it a shot. Alot of people still don't own tablets because they're expensive and seem limited. For a "Limited" outlay of $200, people will be much more likely to take the plunge.
 
c4v3man said:
I think it will sell well not because of what it can do, but solely based on what the media is saying about the device. "This is Google's iPad" is what is being ingrained into people's minds. Then they'll see "$200 iPad" and want to give it a shot. Alot of people still don't own tablets because they're expensive and seem limited. For a "Limited" outlay of $200, people will be much more likely to take the plunge.
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How many will be disappointed when they realize this is nothing like the iPad?
 
A.Nonymous said:
How many will be disappointed when they realize this is nothing like the iPad?
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A better questions is how many people will be ecstatic that it's nothing like the iPad?

The truth is outside of a few apps on both sides, they both offer largely the same apps, media choices, etc. It all depends on what you want to do.
 
brig2221 said:
I think this thing will sell like hotcakes. Gives you everything a kindle fire would and much more IMHO at the same price point. Besides, you get the pure Google OS and experience (as opposed to the Fire), and being a Nexus product means it will get great software support (updates) in the future.
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I paid $139 for a KF during the Mother's Day fire sale (no tax, free shipping) on Amazon. Compare to the $278 I just paid for the N7 and it's a different price point.
 
I have yet to decide if the N7 will replace my eInk Kindle as my primary eReader, but it will be great for magazines, catalogs, surfing, and even gaming. Maybe the N7 or a future big brother will finally be the shot in the arm newspapers have been seeking.

I was sad to receive a notice when visiting shopping.google.com last week that the site would transition to a commercial site. :mad: I like it as a search engine and use it as my primary research tool for product pricing. I think there's a connection between Google tablets and commercializing Google Shopping. No doubt it's hard to ignore Amazon's success -- just a little hard to picture Google stepping into the online retailer role... Google has had some flops, but I don't think the N7 will be one of them. Online retailer: we shall see...
 
Epicurean said:
I paid $139 for a KF during the Mother's Day fire sale (no tax, free shipping) on Amazon. Compare to the $278 I just paid for the N7 and it's a different price point.
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It'll be interesting to see what the Kindle Fire 2 looks like. Honestly I fail to see it being quad core/as fast as the N7, but likely to be more like the existing Kindle Fire, with a few tweaks.

With Surface supposedly coming out at $599, I can see that being a flop. If they can get the Surface Pro to $800, then I can see that putting alot of pressure on the iPad, making the Nexus 7 even more competitive/attractive as a second device/consumption device.
 
c4v3man said:
It'll be interesting to see what the Kindle Fire 2 looks like. Honestly I fail to see it being quad core/as fast as the N7, but likely to be more like the existing Kindle Fire, with a few tweaks.

With Surface supposedly coming out at $599, I can see that being a flop. If they can get the Surface Pro to $800, then I can see that putting alot of pressure on the iPad, making the Nexus 7 even more competitive/attractive as a second device/consumption device.
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I can see any iteration of the surface failing miserably.:D Anybody that has that much money laying around to buy a tablet is going to buy an ipad. Also, the interest in that tablet is so minimal that it might as well have not been released.
 
Initially I was interested in the Fire 2. I own a Kindle Fire and know frustration. Mostly with browsing and lack of the use of apps I’ve already purchased on Google. I look forward to a faster more tabletity tablet.
 
c4v3man said:
A better questions is how many people will be ecstatic that it's nothing like the iPad?

The truth is outside of a few apps on both sides, they both offer largely the same apps, media choices, etc. It all depends on what you want to do.
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I agree with the bolded statement and disagree with the rest.

Non-tech people only know the iPad because that's all they hear about. The media loses their minds when anything new is learned about them and Apple actually advertises. Google needs to learn that lesson. If the N7 were iPad compatible (not even possible in an alternate bizarro reality), it would be a runaway success.

I find the iPads and Android tablets night-and-day different. Mine, for example, is a better synthesizer than real synthesizers I own (I don't own any top end synths). It's fantastic for "jotting" down quick musical ideas. Android has only two synths I've heard of which aren't plagued by so much lag that they are unplayable. I wish the reverse was true but those are the facts.

The games I tend to play on my iPad are unique to it. Again, I wish that weren't true. I hate Apple and it's walled garden but I can't ignore the facts.

Finally, developers don't flock to Android because Android users don't like to pay for things. If they can make money off of iOS, why bother with Android?

I'm not attacking you and I hope you don't feel that way. I just disagree. May Google evolve and prove me wrong!
 
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