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Nexus S vs. Galaxy S 4G

ThatHarlemKat said:
I know exactly what I'm talking about son. This thread compares Samsung Galaxy S II and the Nexus S, if you cant keep up then keep quiet. I just so happened to mention that I own a MT4G.
Anyway, Im done with you, enjoy your Nexus S in good health!
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Actually this thread is Nexus S vs. the Galaxy S 4G, not the Galaxy II. They are two different phones. I think that was the confusion.
 
ThatHarlemKat said:
Damn, I stand corrected. I interjected the Samsung Galaxy S II into a debate between the Nexus S and Galaxy S 4G
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I think that's what led to the confusion.

The II looks nice... but since it isn't likely to be out before the 4th of March, it won't do me much good. Thanks for posting about it!
 
elemteacher2be said:
I think that's what led to the confusion.

The II looks nice... but since it isn't likely to be out before the 4th of March, it won't do me much good. Thanks for posting about it!
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There's a rumored release date for the SGS2 as the 4th of March, but it's suggested that this is likely for the Asian market, with the European market following. I doubt it'll be released in the states until H2 2011.
 
I still can't decide. It's horrible.

I think I have it down to this:

Galaxy S 4G Pros:

  • 4G! Incredibly fast.
  • Looks nice - I played with the Vibrant, and the TouchWiz, off bat doesn't seem horrible to me.
  • HD Video
Galaxy S 4G Cons:

  • No flash!!!!
  • 2.2 Froyo
Nexus S Pros:

  • Pure Google!
  • 2.3 Gingerbread (yum!)
  • Flash!
  • Faster updates (for UI I mean)
Nexus S Cons:

  • Not 4G
  • No HD video

Who can add to my list?

How important is the flash on the camera?
 
elemteacher2be said:
Who can add to my list?

How important is the flash on the camera?
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Galaxy S 4G Pros:

  • 4G! Incredibly fast.
  • Looks nice - I played with the Vibrant, and the TouchWiz, off bat doesn't seem horrible to me.
  • HD Video
  • Expandable Memory (as far as I know)
Galaxy S 4G Cons:

  • No flash!!!!
  • 2.2 Froyo
  • Horrible update support
  • TouchWiz (just as much of a Con as a Pro)
Nexus S Pros:

  • Pure Google!
  • 2.3 Gingerbread (yum!)
  • Flash!
  • Faster updates (for UI I mean)
  • Android designed and tested on Nexus S BY Google themselves.
  • Apps will be built on NS platforms (aka apps should run better)
  • (hopefully) Strong Mod Community
Nexus S Cons:

  • Not 4G
  • No HD video (the ED video really isn't that bad)
  • No SD slot


I personally feel that a flash makes a HUGE difference with camera phones. Phones without flashes generally end up taking grainy photos that can often come out blurred if you can't hold it perfectly still.
 
quantumrand said:
Galaxy S 4G Pros:

  • 4G! Incredibly fast.
  • Looks nice - I played with the Vibrant, and the TouchWiz, off bat doesn't seem horrible to me.
  • HD Video
  • [COLOR="red"]Expandable Memory (as far as I know)[/COLOR]
Galaxy S 4G Cons:

  • No flash!!!!
  • 2.2 Froyo
  • [COLOR="red"]Horrible update support[/COLOR]
  • [COLOR="red"]TouchWiz (just as much of a Con as a Pro)[/COLOR]
Nexus S Pros:

  • Pure Google!
  • 2.3 Gingerbread (yum!)
  • Flash!
  • Faster updates (for UI I mean)
  • [COLOR="red"]Android designed and tested on Nexus S BY Google themselves.[/COLOR]
  • [COLOR="red"]Apps will be built on NS platforms (aka apps should run better)[/COLOR]
  • [COLOR="red"](hopefully) Strong Mod Community[/COLOR]
Nexus S Cons:

  • Not 4G
  • No HD video [COLOR="red"](the ED video really isn't that bad)[/COLOR]
  • [COLOR="red"]No SD slot[/COLOR]


I personally feel that a flash makes a HUGE difference with camera phones. Phones without flashes generally end up taking grainy photos that can often come out blurred if you can't hold it perfectly still.
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I couldn't agree more. The flash helps so much imo. They both have their pros and cons. But honestly its the same way with any phone.

It's really up to you on what's more important. If you enjoy TouchWiz and don't care about not getting the latest and greatest update then I say you should go for it. But some people like me it's the software updates that really matter. Especially when you are getting a google experience phone. It really gives you so much freedom that you can customize any aspect of it. I feel like ever since I got my Nexus S i actually own my phone, and not my carrier. And with every other phone i have had it just feels like the carrier completely controls my experience and what comes on it. So in a sense they own it, and that gets really frustrating when you can't delete demos or other crap that they decided to put on it.
 
Thanks for adding those things!

The problem for me is... I don't what it is I really want/need. I've never had a smartphone before... so it's hard to know. The fastness of the 4G is one of the things that is drawing me to it... but the lack of flash pulls me away....

Thanks again!
 
For me LED flash and high MP sensor camera in phone is just marketing gimmick. I like digital photography as much as smartphones. For bright outdoor shots, the phone camera's image quality comes pretty close to small P&S cam these days. But indoors, especially under low light, the image quality from phone is very noisy and blurry due to small sensor, lens aperture size even with LED flash. Even small P&S cam with small 1/2.3" CCD sensor, F/3.3 max stop at wide angle struggles to capture enough light in dim indoor and has to bump up the ISO way above 400 and results in grainy, noisy shots.
So I don't regularly use phone camera for indoors shots yet. Maybe it will catch up to small P&S came some day, but it's not there yet.
 
jinwons said:
For me LED flash and high MP sensor camera in phone is just marketing gimmick. I like digital photography as much as smartphones. For bright outdoor shots, the phone camera's image quality comes pretty close to small P&S cam these days. But indoors, especially under low light, the image quality from phone is very noisy and blurry due to small sensor, lens aperture size even with LED flash. Even small P&S cam with small 1/2.3" CCD sensor, F/3.3 max stop at wide angle struggles to capture enough light in dim indoor and has to bump up the ISO way above 400 and results in grainy, noisy shots.
So I don't regularly use phone camera for indoors shots yet. Maybe it will catch up to small P&S came some day, but it's not there yet.
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My photos would probably be of things to post on FB or on my blog. Usually of my nieces and nephew. So if the flash makes ANY difference then I have to take advantage of it.
 
jinwons said:
For me LED flash and high MP sensor camera in phone is just marketing gimmick. I like digital photography as much as smartphones. For bright outdoor shots, the phone camera's image quality comes pretty close to small P&S cam these days. But indoors, especially under low light, the image quality from phone is very noisy and blurry due to small sensor, lens aperture size even with LED flash. Even small P&S cam with small 1/2.3" CCD sensor, F/3.3 max stop at wide angle struggles to capture enough light in dim indoor and has to bump up the ISO way above 400 and results in grainy, noisy shots.
So I don't regularly use phone camera for indoors shots yet. Maybe it will catch up to small P&S came some day, but it's not there yet.
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Couldn't agree more. If you want to take serious pictures, you pretty much need a real camera. For things like Facebook photos and quick digital memories, a camera phone is good enough, but it definitely helps to have a flash. It's also useful as a flashlight.

As far as comparing the Nexus S and Galaxy S 4G, they're almost entirely the same phone. 4G really isn't all that necessary, and probably won't be for the next year or two. Plus with T-Mobiles HSPA+ version of 4G, a 3G phone will get perfectly suitable speeds anywhere a 4G phone would be getting 4G speeds, and there's just not much that would take advantage of that extra speed.

The SGS4G does have an SD slot, but no internal storage like the previous SGS phones. So its memory is expandable, unlike the Nexus S, but do you really want to shell out $80 for a 32gig microSD card? I personally think 16GB is plenty. I can throw some 100 hours of music on it and still have like 8 gigs of space left for a few movies, photos, and files.
 
Thanks for helping and for not being smarter in this.

Thanks for the patience!

The bottom menu (that has the phone, the applications, and whatnot) - is that changeable on the Nexus? Is that part of the UI? I like the bigger ones like the Galaxy and the iPhone.
 
elemteacher2be said:
Thanks for helping and for not being smarter in this.

Thanks for the patience!

The bottom menu (that has the phone, the applications, and whatnot) - is that changeable on the Nexus? Is that part of the UI? I like the bigger ones like the Galaxy and the iPhone.
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This can be accomplished with home screen replacement apps from the Marketplace, apps like ADW Launcher.

There are thousands of ADW themes you can install to change how your interface looks and functions.

Launcher Pro is another home screen replacement app, and I actually prefer it over ADW, but its look isn't quite as customizable.
 
I bought the Nexus S yesterday. Was planning on going for the Galaxy S 4G but was messing around with one of these at Best Buy and was very impressed. It's made by Samsung so it shares the Super AMOLED display of the Galaxy S phones, but it also has that curve to it which is surprisingly pleasant to hold. After using Vanilla Android, I don't think I could ever go back to using a third-party UI. The experience is so clean-cut and snappy without all the extra crap!
 
My girlfriend and I both got a nexus s and the sgs4g, and I've got to say theres no huge difference between 3g/4g. I love the flash for my camera on my nexus over my girlfriends sgs4g. Touchwiz isn't my taste with me already having messed with vanilla android. No tmo bloatware, and the nexus is a pure google phone, updates like hotcakes. Have always heard the stories of the froyo delayed galaxy s phones so the nexus being pure google was the clear winner for me.
 
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