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bluebayou

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How many of you are tempted to jump ship and swim over to Apple land? I'm actually sorely tempted... it's a toss-up between the Samsung Galaxy series and iPhone for me now when it comes time to upgrade my phone.

Any thoughts?
 
If they keep up with their "Hey Samsung/Google/HTC/otherandroidrelatedcompanies, we're gonna copy some of your guys' stuff, but later sue you for them" gameplan, I'm never going to willingly fork over a penny for them.
I'm glad their iOS isn't as plain and boring now, but I foresee many lawsuits coming from Apple.
 
The features iOS7 is just now implementing Android has already had. I see no advantage to going to iOS7. To me it would be a lateral move and not an upgrade. Plus I would get a much smaller screen.

EDIT: Besides, if you like the look of iOS7 just root your phone and install a MIUI ROM.
 
If you jump ship to apple (which is your choice and your right - and it is neither right or wrong), you will feel all fresh and new for about a month. Then sit in quiet desperation waiting for the next annual change.

No way a single closed fiefdom can keep up with the ever evolving world of dozens of huge game changer companies
 
gtbarry said:
If you jump ship to apple (which is your choice and your right - and it is neither right or wrong), you will feel all fresh and new for about a month. Then sit in quiet desperation waiting for the next annual change.

No way a single closed fiefdom can keep up with the ever evolving world of dozens of huge game changer companies
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I agree with your points that Apple is not big on updating/innovation.

They're more in the camp of "perfecting" and "polishing," which is why I'm finally kind of convinced that I'd rather have a 99% reliable/refined product than a 50% polished & 50% new-fangled piece of software with features that are either hit or miss. I kinda wish Apple would JOIN FORCES with android one day (haha ridiculous, i know), and basically refine/polish all of Android's new features and inventions.

Or Android should really pay more attention to refinement and listening to user feedback for their services & UI design. As I see it now, one OS is stagnantly pretty (Apple) and one OS is unreliably novel (Android).

Also, I'm pissed off as hell that Jellybean no longer has flash support. That was actually one of the main reasons I chose Android over Apple from the outset. Now I only like Android for allowing direct browser downloads and more customization (except too much freedom in customization is also sometimes a bad thing - there is a reason UI is a whole entire CAREER FIELD in the tech market these days. Some people just CANNOT design user-friendly/clutter-free interfaces, and giving them the power to do so via Android's "incredible freedom" is often more a curse than a blessing. My poor 60 year old father is one such example. He just cannot figure out how to navigate through all the mish-mash of Menu options of his NON-ROOTED android smartphone, so I have to end up doing everything for him. Sigh.)

In a word: Apple is a master of design and generally human-responsive software. Android is a beast at innovation and creating new, groundbreaking features. Now why can't we have the best of both worlds? We need a scientist who can innovate while retaining an eye for delicate detailing and refinement as well. Just look at ancient Catholic cathedrals in Europe. Surely the brilliant architects did not just slap brick and mortar together to make a "new structure." Everything was designed down to the last piece of tile and stained glass shard. People are too impatient these days for refinement, and lazy as a result, or too afraid to innovate in case they lose their "perfect design."

Team up, gentlemen.
 
whether or not anything works with Flash won't be an issue in a year or two. And that comes from a guy who still has his Macromedia badge.
 
I'm already pretty entrenched into Google's ecosystem. I feel that I would be losing a lot if I made the switch away from Android.

I use a lot of widgets. I'm not talking about the weather widget only. I won't go over them all here, but this is something that is a big issue for me and losing all of my widget functionality would be a deal breaker right there.

It took me a while for me to find keyboards that I really like. I don't feel that the Apple keyboard is going to be anything close to how good SwiftKey, Swype and the new Google keyboard (just trying this out this week) is.

The non-standard connector is going to be annoying. Although, there was an instance where I was at a friend's place and wanted to charge my Android phone. He has an iPhone, so I was out of luck there. However, more often than not, I can find a micro-USB charger to charge my phone than an Apple charger.

My browser of choice on my phone is Chrome. The GPS app of choice on my phone is Waze. I can set these as defaults on Android. I cannot on iOS.

Moving my ringtone from my Android phone to my iPhone is a pain. I went through that pain for my wife when she first got her iPhone. I don't care to go through that again. How can something that seems like it should be so simple be so complicated?

bluebayou said:
They're more in the camp of "perfecting" and "polishing," which is why I'm finally kind of convinced that I'd rather have a 99% reliable/refined product than a 50% polished & 50% new-fangled piece of software with features that are either hit or miss. I kinda wish Apple would JOIN FORCES with android one day (haha ridiculous, i know), and basically refine/polish all of Android's new features and inventions.

Or Android should really pay more attention to refinement and listening to user feedback for their services & UI design. As I see it now, one OS is stagnantly pretty (Apple) and one OS is unreliably novel (Android).
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I agree with the refined nature of iOS when it comes to apps. Apple really puts the hammer down on developers to ensure their app quality is at a certain standard. For Android apps, the standards are taken more as a suggestion than anything else. I do feel that the lax rules can produce apps that are extraordinary, but for the most part developers seem to use the lax rules to make crappy UI's or make their app work like an iOS app which is terribly annoying.

I've encountered various issues with iPhones as I am the IT support for my extended family. iOS devices have their reliability issues as well, in my experience.

Some people just CANNOT design user-friendly/clutter-free interfaces, and giving them the power to do so via Android's "incredible freedom" is often more a curse than a blessing. My poor 60 year old father is one such example. He just cannot figure out how to navigate through all the mish-mash of Menu options of his NON-ROOTED android smartphone, so I have to end up doing everything for him. Sigh.)
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My extended family has had difficulty navigating through their iPhones as well. I've been their enabler to ensure their icons on their launcher is organised well enough for them. I don't see why I cannot do the same if they had Android phones.

In a word: Apple is a master of design and generally human-responsive software. Android is a beast at innovation and creating new, groundbreaking features. Now why can't we have the best of both worlds? We need a scientist who can innovate while retaining an eye for delicate detailing and refinement as well. Just look at ancient Catholic cathedrals in Europe. Surely the brilliant architects did not just slap brick and mortar together to make a "new structure." Everything was designed down to the last piece of tile and stained glass shard. People are too impatient these days for refinement, and lazy as a result, or too afraid to innovate in case they lose their "perfect design."
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I do appreciate Apple devices and I understand why they are so popular. When comparing devices, I always find that at least for me, the Apple devices may be on my shortlist of the ones to consider, but an Android device always seems to top that list. An Apple device has been the second best phone and second best tablet at the times when I was considering which device to purchase. For me, it has always been the functionality of the Android device that pushed it above the Apple device. That happens to be what mattered to me.

I appreciate that Apple wants to refine their features, but waiting years for that functionality instead of getting it now is not something that is acceptible to me. If you feel you can wait years for features that are more refined, that's up to you.
 
Ive honestly NEVER had this Apple phone Vs Android based phone decision to make :)
When the 1st iphone was launched in my country, id just bought a bleeding-edge Nokia running on Symbian s60 o/s and although the iphone looked mega sexy, and had touchscreen, it was missing really basic things the Nokia had like video recording, multitasking and 3g lol. Then around that time i heard google were gona "create" a phone based on an open o/s and thought wow that sounds cool. Then after my nokia died and a few dumbphones, i had a lil bit of money spare and wanted a smartphone and bought a bottom of the range android phone for
 
bluebayou said:
How many of you are tempted to jump ship and swim over to Apple land? I'm actually sorely tempted... it's a toss-up between the Samsung Galaxy series and iPhone for me now when it comes time to upgrade my phone.

Any thoughts?
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Each to their own but as a long time Linux user who at times even thinks Android a bit sort of "Google centred", I can't help but feel that I would loathe an iPhone. To me, who offers the most of what I perceive as freedom (although there are other factors such as cost - and I'm not exactly a high end Android user) is a big factor in selecting an OS.
 
I'm definitely not tempted to switch to iOS. They're gonna have to do more than just copy features that Android has had for years now.

I've seen a few people describe iOS as "putting lipstick on a pig". Haha.
 
I moved to Apple and with the exception of some nice games that have zero plans on having Android ports, it took no time before i got bored to death. Apple almost died the first time Steve Jobs left. And now he ain't coming back. They are going to die like BlackBerry and Research in Motion
 
Lack of competition stunts innovation. ;)

I would prefer the competition stays, and it stays hot. We, the consumers, will win hand over fist every time. I enjoy competition with android. :)
 
iTzKPanda said:
If they keep up with their "Hey Samsung/Google/HTC/otherandroidrelatedcompanies, we're gonna copy some of your guys' stuff, but later sue you for them" gameplan, I'm never going to willingly fork over a penny for them.
I'm glad their iOS isn't as plain and boring now, but I foresee many lawsuits coming from Apple.
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I am with you. I do not like to give Apple money unless I have to. Til then my main computer/devices will be Android and Windows.
 
bluebayou said:
I agree with your points that Apple is not big on updating/innovation
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Apple is not about innovation, it's about making other people's innovations work. I'm happy to be corrected, but I can't think of a single significant Apple innovation, ever. From day 1 it 'borrowed' ideas from Xerox.

But that's not the point: Apple make beautiful devices that do the things they're designed to do well .. or at least, more reliably well than the competition.

bluebayou said:
Just look at ancient Catholic cathedrals in Europe. Surely the brilliant architects did not just slap brick and mortar together to make a "new structure." Everything was designed down to the last piece of tile and stained glass shard
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Actually, bad example: most cathedrals in europe took decades - often over a century - to build so had different 'designers' in charge during the fits and starts of development. Also, much of the detailed 'design' was made up by the guy cutting the stone. In fact, they're almost invariably a complete hodge podge of designs and ideas.

Even Gaud
 
bluebayou said:
How many of you are tempted to jump ship and swim over to Apple land? I'm actually sorely tempted... it's a toss-up between the Samsung Galaxy series and iPhone for me now when it comes time to upgrade my phone.

Any thoughts?
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I buy what I need. An S3 because of the big screen and an iPad because there is no other serious choice and android cannot offer me any incentive to switch tablets.

Do not think of it as Jumping Ship.
 
Not interested at all. I've been vastly unimpressed with the iPhone. It's vanilla to me. I like having the spice of what Android brings.
 
Nothing new there from an Android feature standpoint, though apple has one thing for them that sets them aside from Android that I really wish Android could start to catch up on.. and that is the delivery of updates. All compatible apple devices get the update within a very reasonable time frame, whereas with android compatible devices aren't even guaranteed an update. Now I know that this is because of hardware and different manufacturers of the devices, but I still think it would be nice to see Android devices get faster updates when a new version is out.

ios7 from what I have seen is just mostly features copied and changed from android.. nothing to get too excited about
 
bluebayou said:
I agree with your points that Apple is not big on updating/innovation.
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Check out the upcomming Macs. Not sure if I like them, but clearly, they have a design that is quite unlike anything that came before it. But that is not what we are talking about here.

Not so sure Android is completely blameless when it comes from borrowing ideas. Not much new under the sun and every company "steals" a good idea or two.

All I know is this: it is good for we the consumer. For the most part and leaving aside the damage that these endless suits cause.
 
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