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Mykpfsu said:
I wasn't really referring to people on this board. But if you absolutely had to get a phone right now you would hate yourself for having a Droid or Eris? Outside of that the average person that Verizon cares about would be happy with the selection. Also by the end of next month the number of Android phones on Verizon will grow by 2 (Devour, N1). Add another month and it might jumped to 4 (Incredible, Vphone).
As for the one year plan, for me its an extra $30. I know because my Droid cost me $229.99 on the one year plan (course had my cat not bricked my computer I might have been able to go month to month paying full price). But yes for new customers its an extra $70. I'm not aware what a Droid would cost to someone using a NE2 discount as my line doesn't qualify.
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I agree. The vast majority of the 90 million don't care. I probably wouldn't hate myself if I got either the Droid or Eris right now, but I would when the N1 or Incredible comes out. :) They (Droid/Eris) are fine phones, just not quite what I'm looking for and I'm thinking about saving myself money by going 20 months on contract. Therefore, I don't want to make any concessions. I hope you're right about both the N1 coming in March (still just a rumor) or the Incredible coming shortly after in April (we really have no idea here). I'm growing weary of waiting.

You're right about the Droid being only $30 more. I was using the regular website prices but once I logged in, it's $230 with my corporate discount. Still, I would lose out on the NE2 which is $50 thrown away for me.
 
daveydog said:
wait a minute, we don't know that the N1 is coming out by the end of next month do we? If we do, I'm feeling pretty good right now... but I'm pretty sure we do not know that.
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If we don't learn SOMETHING at CTIA at the end of March, I'm gonna go ballistic. Hopefully it's a point of announcement which is what the rumored Mar 23 date would indicate. It is a US wireless conference, for crying out loud. I expect big things from Verizon.
 
KMA said:
I have almost nothing to base this statement on... but what if the Incredible might end up being more similar to the Supersonic (size-wise) than to the Desire. Why? Mostly wishful thinking I guess, but also because I don't think the leaks of the Incredible so far are anywhere near what Verizon and HTC would make it look like. I thought I heard somewhere that HTC puts out a bit of false information now and again to keep us all confused. What if the Incredible video we saw was an older proof of concept type phone that was shown off just for fun? Maybe that's why it had only 256mb of RAM? Maybe it explains the styling, which strays quite a bit from the gorgeous phones they are releasing in the near term (i.e. Legend and Desire). Let's face it, the back of the phone might be a bit crazy, but the front is down right bland. It looks like a cheap iphone knock-off.

How could one of largest U.S. service providers put out a new HTC Android superphone that is less than what everyone else (even T-Mobile and Sprint) are offering? Especially when they've pledged to have the best smartphone line up out there? What if the Incredible has the 4.3 Supersonic screen and similar features, which would be much more deserving of its name? At the very least, I just don't think the phone in the video will be what the final product ends up looking like, assuming it ever shows up at VZW.
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Perhaps I'm a bit confused but I think I agree with what you're saying. Just at first glance, and without looking at screen size or specs, I would say the Supersonic and Incredible look similar.

Another thing that occurs to me is that we see the Nexus One available for TMobile and then about 6 weeks later hear about the release of the Desire. IF....the time line were to be similar for Verizon then we would see the Nexus One available for Verizon customers in the spring and then around June (as suggested on a web site that slips my mind but I think it's something like pda.net?) we will see the "Incredible". I agree that the styling looks a lot like the iphone. I could be happy since in the very beginning I was looking for an iphone on Verizon. Now I see the Desire and salivate as it's a much better looking phone. I think I will probably end up with a Nexus One...but will wait a few weeks after it is released on Verizon to listen to all the gripes and see if anymore news is released. Ideally having a smartphone by summer would be nice for travel.

Oh and as far as calling peoples motives into question. Here's what I think is more typical than some might think. I held off waiting for awhile and was sure I wanted a Droid. I went into the store with my wife. We both held the Droid in our hands for a good 15 to 20 minutes and just did not like the form factor at all. We were not pleased enough to lock into a two year agreement and get stuck with that particular phone. The Eris would have probably made a better choice for us but still a big let down since we were really wanting something more along the iphone realm as far as screen size and power. At the time this all happened the rumors were already flying about the Passion/Desire/Dragon...which ended up being the Nexus One/Bravo/Desire/Incredible blah blah blah. People like myself want to see a powerful smartphone with a good sized screen come to Verizon since that's the network we want to use. I currently have a very dumb phone but am willing to wait or take my business elsewhere. This is why it is so frustrating to watch all the other carriers get these types of phones first. Why is this so hard for some people to understand?
 
There use to be a feature to give positive or negative rep but no one ever used and most didn't even know it existed. You could click on the icon between the green (online) icon and the "report post" icon. Now it's gone but I think it's for the best.
 
It's been said, but Desire and Nexus One are almost entirely identical phones. I think that the Desire is coming to Verizon and it will be called the Verizon Nexus One. Discuss.
 
hatestmobile said:
It's been said, but Desire and Nexus One are almost entirely identical phones. I think that the Desire is coming to Verizon and it will be called the Verizon Nexus One. Discuss.
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No the Nexus one and Desire are 2 different phones.
I think we will get news in the CTIA about phones coming to Verizon. I understand they are looking to get the best out of the droid and eris but with these other phones coming out for Tmo and at&t, Verizon has nothing to compete with these. So i think something will be coming early April. I say this because when I went and talked to an employee of Verizon they said they find out about new phones a week before they get them....
So i think it will be announced and within a week or 2 we will see a new phone for Verizon, that's what I think anyways :)

I do think maybe the Incredible is Verizon's Desire
same as with the Eris- Hero? maybe?
 
Sorry if this post is a little off topic. I posted to the HTC Predator forum back in January, which is completely void of posts other than mine. I'm hoping to get some feedback here where there are actual breathing souls to see it. Surely the Incredible won't suffer the same fate. It's not very comforting to see a rumored phone fall completely off the face of the earth.

My post:
I saw a reference to this phone from way back in september/october 2009. It claimed it was coming to Verizon and sporting Android. The rumor about it came out about the same time the Imagio was being leaked. Anybody know what became of this phone?
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hatestmobile said:
It's been said, but Desire and Nexus One are almost entirely identical phones. I think that the Desire is coming to Verizon and it will be called the Verizon Nexus One. Discuss.
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Even though this is an Incredible forum, I suppose the Desire and N1 have been brought up enough to answer. I think the Nexus One for Verizon will look just like the Nexus One on TMo. I dont think they will change its current set up nor do I think they will use a different phone and call it the Nexus One. One thing I have heard said, which seems logical, is that the Incredible will Verizon's version of the Desire. So Verizon wont specifically get the Desire, but theyll have the Incredible.
 
I have lately been finding it very interesting that both the Nexus One and the Desire are HD video ready, but it's just not enabled and will be enabled through a software update later. That's what the news said. Why not have HD video capabilities right from the start? If it's just a software thing and all they'd have to do is just enable it, then why not enable it and have the phone be able to take 720p video from the get-go?

I think the answer is the Incredible. I think there was some sort of agreement between HTC and Verizon that the HTC Incredible would be the first phone to have HD video recording enabled. Sure, the Nexus and Desire will get it enabled later on after the Incredible has been out for a few months, but I honestly believe that is what's going on. Because why else would a phone like the Desire be released by HTC and it is completely capable of recording in HD but they just didn't enable it? It doesn't make sense, unless you figure Verizon and the Incredible into the equation. Notice that the Incredible has the bigger, higher quality "looking" lens and it has DUAL LED flashes.

I'm tellin ya, Verizon has something big planned for the Incredible. I've seriously been laying in bed trying to get to sleep imagining the possible commercials and marketing campaigns for the Incredible. All it needs is a few higher end specs to make it "incredible" in the public's view. Compare it to the iPhone, for example: Bigger screen, dual LED flash, AMOLED screen, 720p HD video, google maps with navigation/gps built-in and free Skype, POSSIBLY a front facing camera (which would make Skype AMAZING for this phone), 1ghz processor, etc. The list can go on for a while how this phone would be superior to the iPhone and many other phones.

So, with that said. I truly believe that Verizon is going to make the Incredible their new flagship and I can just imagine the massive advertising campaign behind this phone. I honestly believe this phone will have some specs that set it totally apart from any phone on the market, including the N1 and the Desire. I'm getting pretty excited to see it and I have a feeling we'll all be very happy with what we find out this phone can do. Verizon just isn't going to put out a phone, call it the "Incredible" and have it be just on par with every other phone out right now. They're not stupid. At least not yet. haha The more and more I've thought about it, the more I think Verizon is really putting all of their resources into this phone. I think it will have every bell and whistle imaginable and the only thing that some people wish it will have come out with is a 4.3" screen instead of a 3.7" screen. Then they release a 4.3" phone in the third or fourth quarter and everyone gets what they want. That's the way I see it unfolding currently, but that's just my theory and personal opinion.
 
How does Nashdroid always have something thoughtful and intelligent to say?

On another note, I would think the Incredible's internals would have to be rearranged somewhat to put the camera in a new spot and add another flash. I do not think it will be "verizon's desire/nexus one." It may have similar specs but I think the hardware will be different.
 
Mandrew said:
How does Nashdroid always have something thoughtful and intelligent to say?

On another note, I would think the Incredible's internals would have to be rearranged somewhat to put the camera in a new spot and add another flash. I do not think it will be "verizon's desire/nexus one." It may have similar specs but I think the hardware will be different.
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Well, cause I'm just a thoughtful and intelligent guy! ;) haha

Just to clarify...you HAVE seen the pictures of the Incredible, right?
 
Mandrew said:
How does Nashdroid always have something thoughtful and intelligent to say?

On another note, I would think the Incredible's internals would have to be rearranged somewhat to put the camera in a new spot and add another flash. I do not think it will be "verizon's desire/nexus one." It may have similar specs but I think the hardware will be different.
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The Incredible already has dual LED flash.
Exclusive HTC Incredible Photos (Update: Video)

I think when people say they hope the Incredible is the Verizon version of the Desire they're not talking about a Desire rebranded. They (mostly) mean they hope the incredible will be spec'd the same as the Desire (hence no need to move the camera). While I'm hoping for this I don't think it will happen, but who knows.
I for one happen to like the look of the Incredible (esp the back) compared to the Desire.
 
Nashdroid said:
So, with that said. I truly believe that Verizon is going to make the Incredible their new flagship and I can just imagine the massive advertising campaign behind this phone.
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That brings up an interesting point. The Droid is the flagship rigt now and Verizon put a massive amount of money into the campaign. What if that was a deal with Motorola for a pre-determined time? If Motorola and Verizon had something like a 6 month agreement going, that puts the Incredible release sometime in early May.
 
I wouldn't say that there is an agreement not to have 720p recording on the Desire and Nexus just because of one VZW phone. That just isn't how marketing works. You don't disable something for other networks. It's not like HTC went to T-Mo and Google and say, "I'm sorry, we can't have 720p video recording on this device because we are saving that for your rival network Verizon to have on their new phone coming out." I wish it was that way, but I wouldn't agree. The Incredible probably will have this feature though -- I saw the lens.

Edit: Btw, Nash: You're avatar looks great. Your photoshop skills are awesome!
 
Ruben said:
I wouldn't say that there is an agreement not to have 720p recording on the Desire and Nexus just because of one VZW phone. That just isn't how marketing works. You don't disable something for other networks. It's not like HTC went to T-Mo and Google and say, "I'm sorry, we can't have 720p video recording on this device because we are saving that for your rival network Verizon to have on their new phone coming out." I wish it was that way, but I wouldn't agree. The Incredible probably will have this feature though -- I saw the lens.

Edit: Btw, Nash: You're avatar looks great. Your photoshop skills are awesome!
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There are exclusive agreements with phones. I don't know that I have ever seen exclusivity of individual features on phones before. I could see that happening though.
I think it's more likely that the software required to handle 720p just isn't quite ready for primetime yet.

I didn't notice Nash's new avatar. Nice. I like it.
 
Yes. There are exclusive deals with phones...in fact, networks make a point of saying that their special new phone is exclusive. Software for 720p isn't probably as smooth as they want it to be; and therefore, it has not been released. It's not a matter of switching it on and off. But, the Incredible looks extremely promising and I'm also pretty confident that they will change the look.
 
Nash makes some good points, but I hope what we have seen with the leaks does have at least the 3.7" screen and 500+MB RAM. I can't imagine Verizon putting out a flagship phone with "less than" specs.
 
Ruben said:
I wouldn't say that there is an agreement not to have 720p recording on the Desire and Nexus just because of one VZW phone. That just isn't how marketing works. You don't disable something for other networks. It's not like HTC went to T-Mo and Google and say, "I'm sorry, we can't have 720p video recording on this device because we are saving that for your rival network Verizon to have on their new phone coming out." I wish it was that way, but I wouldn't agree. The Incredible probably will have this feature though -- I saw the lens.

Edit: Btw, Nash: You're avatar looks great. Your photoshop skills are awesome!
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Yeah, it would REALLY look great if the site hadn't changed from letting us have 150x150 pixel avatars, to now letting us only have 80x80. That's just way too small in my opinion. Thanks for the compliment though. Here's what it would look like full size.

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I'd bet the reason the phones don't have 720p could possible be the HTC drivers aren't finished for it, or android doesn't currently support it. I doubt any deal Verizon would have with HTC would include any european phones.

Software development isn't just drawing something on a white board and snapping your fingers (that's what management thinks) especially when it is software for mobile devices. There be dragons there.
 
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It has been suggested above that the desire will be Verizon's N1. I can't see this being true because Google would see no benefit from this, and I can't imagine that Google has anything invested in HTC's Desire. I wish it was possible, but I just don't see it happening.

As for specs and 720p: would shooting HD video using 256MB RAM be painfully choppy? In the end, if it's possible to run android and HD video using relatively little memory, I feel that it would definitely be something Verizon would pull. After all, how many consumers actually look at the specs of a phone. At the absolute most, I would say the average consumer might look at the processor speed. It's been said before, but a dealbreaker for us is something the average consumer probably doesn't even pay attention to.

I'm amazed at how optimistic most of you are! I for one assumed we wouldn't hear anything at MWC, and I'm very doubtful that we'll see anything in stores until early summer. Maybe some news will emerge at CTIA, but I can envision a distant release date being announced. Sorry, just how I am...
 
kyler13 said:
That brings up an interesting point. The Droid is the flagship rigt now and Verizon put a massive amount of money into the campaign. What if that was a deal with Motorola for a pre-determined time? If Motorola and Verizon had something like a 6 month agreement going, that puts the Incredible release sometime in early May.
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They most likely did have an agreement to promote the Droid over other phones for a certain length of time. But that time has come and gone most likely. Going by the timeline that came out during the holidays the Droid launch push was November 5th to December 26th.
Verizon Holiday Publication Promotes Droid | Android Phone Fans

The more time that passes the more I'm convinced something happened that messed up Verizon's plan and I'm starting to think that what happened was that they got screwed by Google. Go back to their partnership announcement. This was in the press release "Integral to this agreement is a commitment by the companies to devote substantial resources to accelerate delivery of leading-edge innovation that will put unique applications in the hands of consumers quickly. The two industry leaders will create, market and distribute products and services, with Verizon Wireless also contributing the breadth of its nationwide distribution channels. Consumers will be able to purchase products resulting from the collaboration in Verizon Wireless retail and online stores.". Now the first act after the partnership was the Droid launch (though Google only really having to do with the Droid and not much with the Eris). But what was the second act? Google decides to sell the best Android phone, the Nexus One, online from Google only. Yes it will come to Verizon later. But I find it hard to believe Verizon went into this thinking "We'll have the best Android phone for 2 months, then Google will sell the best phone all by themselves and then we'll launch 2 not quite top of the line phones while another top of the line phone from HTC comes out to other carriers first" and thought it was a good deal. I just haven't seen much come from this partnership and I don't think its because of Verizon.
 
atmn77 said:
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It has been suggested above that the desire will be Verizon's N1. I can't see this being true because Google would see no benefit from this, and I can't imagine that Google has anything invested in HTC's Desire. I wish it was possible, but I just don't see it happening.

As for specs and 720p: would shooting HD video using 256MB RAM be painfully choppy? In the end, if it's possible to run android and HD video using relatively little memory, I feel that it would definitely be something Verizon would pull. After all, how many consumers actually look at the specs of a phone. At the absolute most, I would say the average consumer might look at the processor speed. It's been said before, but a dealbreaker for us is something the average consumer probably doesn't even pay attention to.

I'm amazed at how optimistic most of you are! I for one assumed we wouldn't hear anything at MWC, and I'm very doubtful that we'll see anything in stores until early summer. Maybe some news will emerge at CTIA, but I can envision a distant release date being announced. Sorry, just how I am...
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All internal specs of the HTC Incredible are strictly speculation and rumor at this point. There has been no confirmation. Every time you hear RAM mentioned in an article referring to the Incredible it says RAM "is said to be" 256. "Said to be" is completely different than RAM is "officially confirmed" to be... Right now all of the specs are just guesses and hearsay, except for what we know from pictures and video of the phone which are the obvious cosmetic features of the phone and some software stuff that is evident in the video and pictures.

Personally, I think there is NO WAY this phone would release with less than 512 megs of RAM on board.
 
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