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[Official] Ordered/I've got mine thread. :)

Are you going to buy the nexus 6?

  • Yes! Take my money! (Off- Contract)

    Votes: 30 28.6%

  • Yes! With carrier subsidy/payment plan

    Votes: 17 16.2%

  • No - Was going to buy, but now out of my price range

    Votes: 29 27.6%

  • No- Was not going to buy

    Votes: 16 15.2%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 13 12.4%
  • Total voters
    105
For those wondering about the n6 read/write speed... Its encrypted so that's expected. They didn't cut cost on storage, its having to encrypt/decrypt on the fly

Another reason why benchmarks mean nothing
 
I set a December 1st date when the first preorder debacle went down. If I can't get one by then, it's either a LG G3 or Note 4.

Google seems to be dropping the ball a lot lately. Obviously they rushed both the Nexus 6 and Lollipop.

It's funny that 3 of the biggest reasons to get a Nexus have all been compromised. Price, Updates before other manufacturers, and bloat free.
 
Rxpert83 said:
For those wondering about the n6 read/write speed... Its encrypted so that's expected. They didn't cut cost on storage, its having to encrypt/decrypt on the fly

Another reason why benchmarks mean nothing
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But isnt there a way to boost those numbers even with encryption taking place...?
 
Rxpert83 said:
For those wondering about the n6 read/write speed... Its encrypted so that's expected. They didn't cut cost on storage, its having to encrypt/decrypt on the fly

Another reason why benchmarks mean nothing
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You're right, benchmarks don't mean anything. But when it's translating into lag on occasion when it would correlate to storage speed being a bottleneck (opening an app, app switching, going to the home screen), then it's a problem no matter how some reviews spin it.

Luckily, I was in meetings all day and cooler heads prevailed and I did not cancel my pre-order :) I am going to give it a go for a week or so and see if there are any things that are deal breakers for me. If it's slower storage wise but it's a better overall experience than I'm having with cm11 on my S4, then that's an "upgrade" even if it's not optimal.

I was hoping to rock this stock/rooted, but I may just have to ROM it to undo the encryption, though it sounds like CM has declared they will require it :( So I dunno what that'll mean for other custom ROMs.

I still think it's nonsense that Google enabled encryption by default with no way to disable it for the average user. If you want to enable encryption and not allow disabling of it, fine, then put a dedicated crypto chip inside. It's silly that they would do something that obviously interferes with the fluidity of Lollipop, but clearly this is a play for the corporate/secure world, it's just not fully thought out IMHO.
 
Karl_in_Chicago said:
Meanwhile . . . over 300 million miles away, after a 6 billion mile journey, an unmanned research vessel was able to land on a tiny comet. Back here on Earth, Google and Motorola can't manage to supply a freakin' cellphone or even to effectively communicate the situation to waiting would-be buyers.
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Meanwhile (if I can stop laughing long enough to type :))

300.1 million miles back here on earth, IF my current order is fulfilled on time I expect to have my Bloatware Enriched AT&T Nexus 6 in hand late next week. I'll then be able to post some thoughts and experiences with the N6 in real world use.

Ah yes, the real time thrills of living in the open community I fondly call: NexusLand :D
 
Karl_in_Chicago said:
Meanwhile . . . over 300 million miles away, after a 6 billion mile journey, an unmanned research vessel was able to land on a tiny comet. Back here on Earth, Google and Motorola can't manage to supply a freakin' cellphone or even to effectively communicate the situation to waiting would-be buyers.
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Omg I Luv this!! Soooooo accurate!!
 
zipred said:
Meanwhile (if I can stop laughing long enough to type :))

300.1 million miles back here on earth, IF my current order is fulfilled on time I expect to have my Bloatware Enriched AT&T Nexus 6 in hand late next week. I'll then be able to post some thoughts and experiences with the N6 in real world use.

Ah yes, the real time thrills of living in the open community I fondly call: NexusLand :D
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The bloat is bad, but my fear is the updates. I had the Nexus S through contract on AT&T, and it took months for AT&T to approve android updates. The bloatware just makes me think they will have some control of this device. Hope not, but I would not be surprised at all.
 
brounmoney said:
The bloat is bad, but my fear is the updates. I had the Nexus S through contract on AT&T, and it took months for AT&T to approve android updates. The bloatware just makes me think they will have some control of this device. Hope not, but I would not be surprised at all.
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I've been with AT&T for years and most certainly don't disagree with you. Yet obviously this is the first Nexus they've had, so that makes this a test case to see how they handle it. Worse case, I'll pass it on to a family member once 64gb versions are readily available via Google Play.
 
zipred said:
Yet obviously this is the first Nexus they've had, so that makes this a test case to see how they handle it.
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The Nexus 6 isn't the first Nexus AT&T has had. They carried the Nexus S, and they definitely interfered with it.

Out of the box, it came with a custom build of 2.3.4 that disabled the stock Wi-Fi hotspot feature unless you were paying for it. And it never received any OS updates. If Canadian carrier Rodgers hadn't had the same GSM bands, and used the same hardware model as AT&T, allowing me to manually flash a true stock image, I wouldn't have gotten 2.3.6, let alone ICS.

So given my experience with the Nexus S, I had no plans to buy the Nexus 6 through AT&T. The "off contract" discount nearly makes up the price difference over 2 years, so the few extra dollars it would cost me to buy it on the Play Store are worth it to me. The fact that they're only carrying the 32 GB version was an extra nail in the coffin.

I managed to pick up a 64 GB yesterday from the Play Store, so I'll have the comfort of knowing that I'll be dealing directly with Google, and AT&T won't have their hands on it (with the possible exception of the SIM-triggered remote bloatware install, but that can be uninstalled).
 
jbaysingar said:
The Nexus 6 isn't the first Nexus AT&T has had. They carried the Nexus S, and they definitely interfered with it.
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I knew I remembered AT&T and T-Mobile carrying the Nexus S, and then Sprint had a separate model that had WiMAX radios in it. I just couldn't remember completely about AT&T.
 
jbaysingar said:
The Nexus 6 isn't the first Nexus AT&T has had. They carried the Nexus S, and they definitely interfered with it.

Out of the box, it came with a custom build of 2.3.4 that disabled the stock Wi-Fi hotspot feature unless you were paying for it. And it never received any OS updates. If Canadian carrier Rodgers hadn't had the same GSM bands, and used the same hardware model as AT&T, allowing me to manually flash a true stock image, I wouldn't have gotten 2.3.6, let alone ICS.

So given my experience with the Nexus S, I had no plans to buy the Nexus 6 through AT&T. The "off contract" discount nearly makes up the price difference over 2 years, so the few extra dollars it would cost me to buy it on the Play Store are worth it to me. The fact that they're only carrying the 32 GB version was an extra nail in the coffin.

I managed to pick up a 64 GB yesterday from the Play Store, so I'll have the comfort of knowing that I'll be dealing directly with Google, and AT&T won't have their hands on it (with the possible exception of the SIM-triggered remote bloatware install, but that can be uninstalled).
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So you think that even N6s purchased from google will get hit with the nbloat as soon as you activate it on at&t ? Probably so.
 
jbaysingar said:
The Nexus 6 isn't the first Nexus AT&T has had. They carried the Nexus S, and they definitely interfered with it.



Out of the box, it came with a custom build of 2.3.4 that disabled the stock Wi-Fi hotspot feature unless you were paying for it. And it never received any OS updates. If Canadian carrier Rodgers hadn't had the same GSM bands, and used the same hardware model as AT&T, allowing me to manually flash a true stock image, I wouldn't have gotten 2.3.6, let alone ICS.



So given my experience with the Nexus S, I had no plans to buy the Nexus 6 through AT&T. The "off contract" discount nearly makes up the price difference over 2 years, so the few extra dollars it would cost me to buy it on the Play Store are worth it to me. The fact that they're only carrying the 32 GB version was an extra nail in the coffin.



I managed to pick up a 64 GB yesterday from the Play Store, so I'll have the comfort of knowing that I'll be dealing directly with Google, and AT&T won't have their hands on it (with the possible exception of the SIM-triggered remote bloatware install, but that can be uninstalled).
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I was going to say the same thing. My nexus s was on contract with AT&T. That was the worst nexus experience I have had. I just hope they don't mess it up this time.

jaj324 said:
So you think that even N6s purchased from google will get hit with the nbloat as soon as you activate it on at&t ? Probably so.
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No they have never messed with the unlocked nexus phones. I have had the unlocked GNex, nexus 4, and nexus 5. AT&T had nothing to do with anything with the updates or bloat. That is why you spend the extra money.
 
jaj324 said:
So you think that even N6s purchased from google will get hit with the nbloat as soon as you activate it on at&t ? Probably so.
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I hope not, but there are multiple reports from reviewers with the Play Store version of the phone who say that T-Mobile's "My Account" app installed when they put a T-Mobile SIM in the phone. I can't imagine it would be different for AT&T.

I don't like that a carrier can dictate apps to install on a phone I didn't buy from them, but fortunately it's a minor inconvenience, as they can all be uninstalled.
 
brounmoney said:
No they have never messed with the unlocked nexus phones. I have had the unlocked GNex, nexus 4, and nexus 5. AT&T had nothing to do with anything with the updates or bloat. That is why you spend the extra money.
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That was true in the past (because carriers had no access to phones purchased directly from Google), and part of why I bought my N6 through the Play Store, but Lollipop allows for carriers to define a list of apps that get installed when a phone is set up on their network, and some reviewers with Google N6s are reporting that using it with a T-Mobile SIM triggers it to install T-Mobile's "My Account" app.
 
jbaysingar said:
That was true in the past (because carriers had no access to phones purchased directly from Google), and part of why I bought my N6 through the Play Store, but Lollipop allows for carriers to define a list of apps that get installed when a phone is set up on their network, and some reviewers with Google N6s are reporting that using it with a T-Mobile SIM triggers it to install T-Mobile's "My Account" app.
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This is crazy. Google signed a deal with the Devil this year by making these carrier phones. They are going to let's carriers control apps installed from the start. Just a bad idea. The carriers will just start with this. Man I hate American carriers.
 
I wasn't prepared to wait any longer. The release date for the NexSix with 64GB in the Netherlands is still unknown. They lost me, due to lack of proper communication.
Just ordered two unlocked black Note 4s (32 GB) with octa cores and 64GB sd cards. Sans contract. :p
 
The Carrier's leverage is in the activation. You may not have purchased the device from them but you are activating it on their network. That has conditions, apparently.
 
I called Moto and was basically told they don't have an exact date because of the high volume of orders and they are trying to get them out as soon as possible and that it could be sooner then my original date or later.

She will update me via email.
 
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