Official Release Date Rumor Thread

[RajCaj]

Here's my take on the whole thing.

I think ATT is bowing to the manufacturer that has given them the most revenue and power. ATT pushed forward thousands and thousands of upgrades to customers in preparation for an iPhone release. What other manufacturer do they do that for? I would not be surprised in the least if they are holding off on releasing this phone until the next Apple product is officially announced. This way all the upgrades they pushed ahead go towards the manufacturer that has benefited them the most! While it doesn't make sense to me because they make their money off of contract renewals and not actual phone sales -- but why not help out their best friend that has made them something. I'm not saying it's right -- but it makes sense from a business partnership point of view. And give the Apple and Samsung legal woes I wouldn't put it past either one.

Secondly, given the dynamic, you can not fairly compare iOS to Android in market share. There is iOS -- one manufacturer one company. And then there is Android -- several manufacturers and hundreds of devices. If you did a fair market share -- take the best selling android device ever -- and compared the market share it would be well over 80% in iOS' favor. The fact that one product is even competing with hundreds speaks volumes. I'm not a big Apple fan. I have had an iphone for the past two cycles but I'm going with Android this time around because I think it'll fit my tinkering and personality better -- that and I loathe iTunes. iPhone will always be an institution not just a device. But I think there is some serious competition ahead. Which will leave no room for error when it comes for any partner involved to drop the ball on a launch like I believe ATT has on this phone.

It's fair speculation....but as Ed has pointed out, AT&T is no longer the exclusive iPhone seller....and it hasn't been for over a year now. In addition, Apple has opened its doors even further and will be selling on ALL major US carriers....not just AT&T & Verizon.

Still....I understand that there may be some closer ties to Apple than other manufactures....but to tank your Android flagship phone for it?

And on the market share bit....I think its important to look at the Android market share as a whole to understand trending in where the customer base is heading. After the non-launch for Apple this summer, its estimated that Apple lost around 3 million customers to Android. Can you imagine if the SGSII was available early / mid August???

 

[kidsavior]

Whatever case, the bottomline is this phone should not have tooken anywhere this long to come to the states. Surely you must agree to that at least.

Dude I'm sorry but apparently my spelling Nazi of a wife has rubbed off on me. Its "Taken" not "tooken". I really don't mean to be mean or impolite, but twice was once to many.

Any ways back to the phone. Do I wish it where out? Yes, but honestly my Captivate still works just fine. I do think they really should have just broke down and set a release date. It would have cut off a lot of unhappiness.

Besides the fact that from rumors I was reading on Phandroid today it looks like the Galaxy Nexus will be coming to AT&T shortly after the Verizon release date of early November. So if I have waited this long whats another 6-8 weeks? And the Galaxy Nexus is newer and better than the GS II. So yes AT&T and Samsung one or both probably made a bit of a mistake in waiting, but who knows....

 

[Sandroidfan]

I don't know what's holding up Attain release. But I don't think iPhone5 has any bearing on it as Apple buys are mostly mutually exclusive to Android buyers regardless of timing. If there is any single android device that has chance to come close to iPhone sales, it's SGS2. Delaying its release will only result in loss of sales for AT&T.

 

[alt936]

i have a hard time believing at&t would let apple boss them around after apple has made the iphone available to all carriers. sure, when it was at&t exclusive, i would not be surprised. but since the iphone is available to anyone now, it makes no sense for at&t to let apple boss them around. the way i see it, at&t stands to lose business due to the wider availablity of the iphone-really, the only nice thing i have to say about at&t is the customer service is better (my roommate spent an hour and a half trying to get someone on the phone at t-mobile. for comparison, i called at&t at the same time, and had someone in less than 3 minutes.). their plans are more expensive than many carriers, at least that's what all my friends with verizon and t-mobile tell me. therefore, it would've made more sense for at&t to drop the gs2 before the iphone, because well. apple jumped ship and left at&t in the dust.

 

[kidsavior]

i have a hard time believing at&t would let apple boss them around after apple has made the iphone available to all carriers. sure, when it was at&t exclusive, i would not be surprised. but since the iphone is available to anyone now, it makes no sense for at&t to let apple boss them around. the way i see it, at&t stands to lose business due to the wider availablity of the iphone-really, the only nice thing i have to say about at&t is the customer service is better (my roommate spent an hour and a half trying to get someone on the phone at t-mobile. for comparison, i called at&t at the same time, and had someone in less than 3 minutes.). their plans are more expensive than many carriers, at least that's what all my friends with verizon and t-mobile tell me. therefore, it would've made more sense for at&t to drop the gs2 before the iphone, because well. apple jumped ship and left at&t in the dust.

I don't know about T-Mobile but at least here in Northern California Verizon is MUCH more expensive than AT&T. My plan (with my wife) is $110 with AT&T same basic plan with Verizon (when I checked 2 months ago) was almost $170.00. That is a BIG differnce.

 

[aztooh]

It's fair speculation....but as Ed has pointed out, AT&T is no longer the exclusive iPhone seller....and it hasn't been for over a year now. In addition, Apple has opened its doors even further and will be selling on ALL major US carriers....not just AT&T & Verizon.

Still....I understand that there may be some closer ties to Apple than other manufactures....but to tank your Android flagship phone for it?

And on the market share bit....I think its important to look at the Android market share as a whole to understand trending in where the customer base is heading. After the non-launch for Apple this summer, its estimated that Apple lost around 3 million customers to Android. Can you imagine if the SGSII was available early / mid August???

February 2011 - Now is not "over a year" and nothing is confirmed about Sprint or T-Mo getting the device.

 

[RajCaj]

February 2011 - Now is not "over a year" and nothing is confirmed about Sprint or T-Mo getting the device.

Fair enough on the Verizon bit...I thought they started selling the iPhone 4s in late 2010....and started selling the white ones in Feb 2011.

As for Sprint & T-Mo not getting iPhones this go around...

Sprint Said to Plan Unlimited Data Offer With Apple?s IPhone - Bloomberg

New report resurrects T-Mobile iPhone 5 rumor

While the T-Mobile iPhone isn't confirmed, the article shows a leaked pic of an iPhone 4 that was being tested on T-Mobile's 3G network.

 

[MisterEd]

But Ed, why would Samsung make a deal like that with its flagship phone with a carrier that quite possibly has the worst coverage out of the big 4?

Iagain, I just don't get the business logic behind a decision like that

That's why you, me and the rest of the folks here aren't multi-millionaires or corporate presidents of a multi-billion dollar company. We don't know. They obviously have a reason and the reason isn't just to make 200 or 2000 people angry. We'll never know. It's all conjecture, just like the release date.

 

[MisterEd]

I have been following this forum for about 2 months now. I have been waiting for this phone to come out since JUNE and finally let my frustration boil over today. I called and talked to 3 different levels of people and about a dozen supervisors and told them I'm sick and tired of waiting and unless I got an official release date I was gonna switch to Sprint. They all told me the same thing. They said that AT&T is honoring Apple's wishes/demands and releasing the S2 AFTER the Iphone 5. They said that the Iphone 5 is "supposed" to be released on 14th or 15th, but that is not set in stone and could change. It could be an additional week or two until the S2 released. So it could be late October or early November. Feel free to call and bitch them out and see if you can get similar results. But thats what I was told. Looks like we'll be waiting 4-6 more weeks. Effing Apple!

That's earth shattering information. Hopefully you recorded the call. I would contact Engadget and the rest of the online media with that. I am sure they will publish it.

Even if they told you that it's BS because they wouldn't give anyone that information as it is would be corporate privileged information particularly to some screaming space cadet. Either they told you that to shut you up and get you off the phone or your story is BS no matter what date the device is released.

I go with:

 

[That_One_Guy]

That's earth shattering information. Hopefully you recorded the call. I would contact Engadget and the rest of the online media with that. I am sure they will publish it.

Even if they told you that it's BS because they wouldn't give anyone that information as it is would be corporate privileged information particularly to some screaming space cadet. Either they told you that to shut you up and get you off the phone or your story is BS no matter what date the device is released.

I go with:

Yeah, I joined the forum, made an account, and wasted 10 minutes of my life posting BS just to mess with you, somebody I've never met. Get lost. I am just trying to help you and everyone else out because I know how frustrating this whole thing has been. Everything I said is 100% true, but I clearly can't guarantee whether it's 100% accurate or not. I don't have some "inside source" or any earth shattering news. I just called, talked to enough levels of people and was polite, yet stern enough to get an answer. The answer could be as you said just a way of shutting me up, but I highly doubt half a dozen people would all just magically come up with the same answer to shut me up. I talked to different people, was transferred several times, and they all said that it will be coming out shortly after the Iphone 5 which is supposed to be out mid October. Take it or leave it, but don't be a dick. Trust me I don't want to be right, I would GLADLY be wrong. I'm just passing along what I was told today. I even said at the end of my post, your welcome to call and see if you can get the same answer I did.

 

[Mr. Ed]

Mr Ed acts like he works for AT&T! He is an A@@ and everyone should ignore him. His post count suggests he lives on this forum.

Update on the release....the Transformers 3 release has been pushed up to Sept 30th now...so it may be possible that Paramount will allow the release of the phone as early as this weekend.

The phone has been out of samsung's hands now since last week, so it should be any day now.

 

[ginab1981]

I just finished calling both AT&T and Samsung. In regards to the previous post about the S2 being released after the Iphone 5, the AT&T representative that I spoke to said that has no impact on the Galaxy S2. There is still no update as to when it will be released and the representative suggested that I contact Samsung.

Moving on to Samsung, the representative told me three times in a row, as I expressed my dissatisfaction with this whole ordeal not only for me but also all you who are tired of waiting, that they were waiting on notification from AT&T to release the phone.

So there you have it, AT&T is the main reason for the delay.

In addition, I went to my local corporate store to check out the Sony Ericsson Play for my son and low and behold they didn't even have it in eventhough it was offically released on Sunday. They said that it could be a week or two before it comes in. (I hate to see if things will be the same way for the S2.) I also spoke with a store representative there and she said that she had no idea when the S2 would come out, and I mentioned to her the Iphone 5 and she said that she wasn't sure if they were going to get that next quarter or sometime next year.

 

[Frisco]

Posts are having to be edited and removed.

Please keep personal remarks toward one another, grammar police tendencies (in jest or not), name calling and other childish behavior out of this thread, my friends. We want to leave the thread open, as there is real info being discussed by some of you.

 

[Puddin422]

In addition, I went to my local corporate store to check out the Sony Ericsson Play for my son and low and behold they didn't even have it in eventhough it was offically released on Sunday. They said that it could be a week or two before it comes in. (I hate to see if things will be the same way for the S2.) I also spoke with a store representative there and she said that she had no idea when the S2 would come out, and I mentioned to her the Iphone 5 and she said that she wasn't sure if they were going to get that next quarter or sometime next year.

The nail salon I go to is next door to a Radio Shack. I needed to kill some time before it was my turn, so I walked next door. I wanted to see the new Epic Touch in person!! This is the very story that I preordered my Epic from last year and picked it up on release day.

They don't have Epic Touch on display. I didn't bother asking about it because the sales kid was pestering me and I couldn't wait to get away..

It's like nobody gives a crap about this phone this go 'round.

 

[ginab1981]

The nail salon I go to is next door to a Radio Shack. I needed to kill some time before it was my turn, so I walked next door. I wanted to see the new Epic Touch in person!! This is the very story that I preordered my Epic from last year and picked it up on release day.

They don't have Epic Touch on display. I didn't bother asking about it because the sales kid was pestering me and I couldn't wait to get away..

It's like nobody gives a crap about this phone this go 'round.

It is very disappointing, and you are right that it seems to be that no one cares. Sure there will be other slightly more advanced phones to come Q4 or even sometime next year, but they seem to also keep getting bigger in size. On a personal note, I will continue to wait it out and hope for the best, because I think this phone will be a perfect fit for me.

 

[N6EAJ]

Update on the release....the Transformers 3 release has been pushed up to Sept 30th now...so it may be possible that Paramount will allow the release of the phone as early as this weekend.........

That is good news. When you were reminding us that the October 2nd release date the Samsung guy gave aligned with the Transformer 3 release date, I was thinking what if the T3 DVD got delayed. That could have forced them to delay the phone just because of contracts with the movie companies. So at least this shouldn't be an excuse to delay the release.

 

[kidsavior]

Posts are having to be edited and removed.

Please keep personal remarks toward one another, grammar police tendencies (in jest or not), name calling and other childish behavior out of this thread, my friends. We want to leave the thread open, as there is real info being discussed by some of you.

My apologies, I meant no harm or disrespect. It will not happen again.

 

[alt936]

I don't know about T-Mobile but at least here in Northern California Verizon is MUCH more expensive than AT&T. My plan (with my wife) is $110 with AT&T same basic plan with Verizon (when I checked 2 months ago) was almost $170.00. That is a BIG differnce.

Hmm, that's crazy. I'm in the Eastern Missouri area, I pay $85 a month for unlimited text and data, and 500 minutes. I'm just about the only person I know who still has AT&T. All my friends and co-workers have one of the other 3 of the big 4. (Except for those who have US Cellular) They all swear it's cheaper. Maybe it's because I'm on my own plan and I think my friends and co-workers are about half-and-half, on either their own, or family plans.
I never understood why I'm on my own plan either. Before my family moved, we were all on AT&T. My parents and sisters were on a family plan, and I was on my own then too. Meh. I'm chalking that up to my dad making no sense sometimes.

 

[Boondoc]

My comments were not directed at the wrong person. The guy pokes fun at eveyone that is mad at AT&T. I know the release date was a rumor but Samsung and AT&T definitely said a 3rd quater release, and there are not many days left before the 4th. How hard is it to say we will release this phone on Dec 1. I would wait and I'm sure many others would too.

there are 2 Eds. one Mr.Ed and one Mister Ed.

 

[Mr. Ed]

That is good news. When you were reminding us that the October 2nd release date the Samsung guy gave aligned with the Transformer 3 release date, I was thinking what if the T3 delay got delayed. That could have forced them to delay the phone just because of contracts with the movie companies. So at least this shouldn't be an excuse to delay the release.

Exactly...the release of the movie has been moved up twice now (from november to october, and now sept 30th)

so that can't be a valid reason. (all assuming he was right to begin with and the phone does come with the movie)

 

[alt936]

My comments were not directed at the wrong person. The guy pokes fun at eveyone that is mad at AT&T. I know the release date was a rumor but Samsung and AT&T definitely said a 3rd quater release, and there are not many days left before the 4th. How hard is it to say we will release this phone on Dec 1. I would wait and I'm sure many others would too.

Are you referring to the leaked roadmap?

 

[atx84]

HAHAHA, isn't it funny how all these sites are all like "oh nooo, the GS2 has been postponed" I was wondering what they would say after their "official" release date came and went

 

[Boondoc]

i'm not particularly amused.

 

[TRD_Power]

Dude I'm sorry but apparently my spelling Nazi of a wife has rubbed off on me. Its "Taken" not "tooken". I really don't mean to be mean or impolite, but twice was once to many.

Any ways back to the phone. Do I wish it where out? Yes, but honestly my Captivate still works just fine. I do think they really should have just broke down and set a release date. It would have cut off a lot of unhappiness.

Besides the fact that from rumors I was reading on Phandroid today it looks like the Galaxy Nexus will be coming to AT&T shortly after the Verizon release date of early November. So if I have waited this long whats another 6-8 weeks? And the Galaxy Nexus is newer and better than the GS II. So yes AT&T and Samsung one or both probably made a bit of a mistake in waiting, but who knows....

*too

 

[MisterEd]

GSII @ dailysteals.com

$499 - no tax, no contract, unlocked. 1 day only. They CLAIM a 1yr warranty but I have doubt about that.