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.:Official Review And Impressions Thread:.

So what do you think about the Rezound/Vigor?

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I know why there has been no leaks or info.

The Vigor/Rezound is the only phone that I want. I am not interested in the Samsung and Motorola.

And unfortunately my luck will make sure there is no leaks/info and it will release after the other two phones...

Sorry.
 
I know why there has been no leaks or info.

The Vigor/Rezound is the only phone that I want. I am not interested in the Samsung and Motorola.

And unfortunately my luck will make sure there is no leaks/info and it will release after the other two phones...

Sorry.

It's definitely zounding like HTC is going to be late to the party...again :(
 
I for one, am glad that all three are releasing on the same day. This will allow me to go sample and demo all of them in the store, so that I can then make a sound decision on the one that I want the most without regretting my decision.
 
I for one, am glad that all three are releasing on the same day. This will allow me to go sample and demo all of them in the store, so that I can then make a sound decision on the one that I want the most without regretting my decision.


THIS...would be the best possible scenario if it comes to fruition, but I kinda doubt that it will. However, since I'm not planning on buying on launch day, they may all be in store when I decide to pull the trigger. Hopefully :D
 
I'm willing to bet that it'll only be a matter of time before someone cracks one opened and demonstrates how to replace the battery. The only issue I can see is Motorola soldering the battery. I don't see them doing that though as bad batteries tend to be a big reason that people return their phones. So I imagine in order to make their refurb process easy I can't imagine Motorola having to hire refurb sweat-shop employees that know how to solder.

I clicked on the link that I posted and I must admit, the phone looks sleek as hell so by no means am I 100% sold on the HTC. I'm even wondering if the phone's "rootability" is going to be a deciding factor for me.

First I have to say that I have always said that a major advantage android has over the i*hone is the removable battery. Even if it just gets you through a day, what if there is an extended period where you're not near an outlet or don't have your charger? If you've got a spare battery or 2 no problem, but in this case you're stuck.

As far as soldering the battery, if they're not going to solder it in then you have what we have now, a removable battery. Forgetting about what I mentioned above about not being able to swap batteries, the main advantage to having a non-removable battery is the ability to fit a larger battery in the phone. The reason being with a removable battery you need a battery tray for the battery to sit in. Get rid of that and you have more space, albeit not a huge gain.

Now since there is nothing to hold the battery in place it would need to be soldered in place. If they don't solder it there would be a need to have a battery tray to hold it in place, in which case you'd have a removable battery. If that is indeed what they did, then why would you seal the battery compartment off if the battery is easily removable?

You mentioned that battery issues are the reason for a percentage of returns. Apple has a non-removable battery and they have to be replaced as well. I have had 2 ipods and both batteries had to be replaced around the 14 month mark. With an android no problem, with apple send it in and get it back in a week. If you didn't get an extended warranty you're looking at around a $30-$50 charge (what it would have cost me if I wouldn't have had the ext. warranty).

It's not like apple hasn't figured this out, my ipods were the last 2 generations of the ipod classic. So we're talking around 8-10 years they have been producing them with a non-removable battery. Both of the ones I had had to have the battery replaced, and outside of the 1 year warranty. So either you're gonna get the extended warranty or pay to have them replace it out of warranty. Either way, they got more money than just the cost of the device.

The kicker here is a 1 year warranty for the device and a 2 year contract before you can upgrade again. Unless you go full retail and replace it at the one year mark, it's something you may have to deal with. So you'll either want to get insurance or end up paying to have the battery replaced.

Maybe this battery will make it to the 2 year mark, maybe not. Looking at all of the complaints I've seen from Droid1 owners saying the camera doesn't work anymore or wi-fi stopped working, etc., etc. (all of which is before the 2 year period is up) Moto's device longevity doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling. I said somewhere else that if the G-Nex didn't have a removable battery (or microsd card) that it would take them out of the running for me. Same with the Droid Razr.
 
First I have to say that I have always said that a major advantage android has over the i*hone is the removable battery. Even if it just gets you through a day, what if there is an extended period where you're not near an outlet or don't have your charger? If you've got a spare battery or 2 no problem, but in this case you're stuck.

As far as soldering the battery, if they're not going to solder it in then you have what we have now, a removable battery. Forgetting about what I mentioned above about not being able to swap batteries, the main advantage to having a non-removable battery is the ability to fit a larger battery in the phone. The reason being with a removable battery you need a battery tray for the battery to sit in. Get rid of that and you have more space, albeit not a huge gain.

Now since there is nothing to hold the battery in place it would need to be soldered in place. If they don't solder it there would be a need to have a battery tray to hold it in place, in which case you'd have a removable battery. If that is indeed what they did, then why would you seal the battery compartment off if the battery is easily removable?

You mentioned that battery issues are the reason for a percentage of returns. Apple has a non-removable battery and they have to be replaced as well. I have had 2 ipods and both batteries had to be replaced around the 14 month mark. With an android no problem, with apple send it in and get it back in a week. If you didn't get an extended warranty you're looking at around a $30-$50 charge (what it would have cost me if I wouldn't have had the ext. warranty).

It's not like apple hasn't figured this out, my ipods were the last 2 generations of the ipod classic. So we're talking around 8-10 years they have been producing them with a non-removable battery. Both of the ones I had had to have the battery replaced, and outside of the 1 year warranty. So either you're gonna get the extended warranty or pay to have them replace it out of warranty. Either way, they got more money than just the cost of the device.

The kicker here is a 1 year warranty for the device and a 2 year contract before you can upgrade again. Unless you go full retail and replace it at the one year mark, it's something you may have to deal with. So you'll either want to get insurance or end up paying to have the battery replaced.

Maybe this battery will make it to the 2 year mark, maybe not. Looking at all of the complaints I've seen from Droid1 owners saying the camera doesn't work anymore or wi-fi stopped working, etc., etc. (all of which is before the 2 year period is up) Moto's device longevity doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling. I said somewhere else that if the G-Nex didn't have a removable battery (or microsd card) that it would take them out of the running for me. Same with the Droid Razr.


I really don't understand why so many android people think that the iPhone's battery is really that bad. I actually had an iPhone 4 issued to me at work and side by side it outlasts the Thunderbolt by at least 4-5 times longer. I can go 2-3 days without charging the iPhone 4 where the Thunderbolt I have to charge it at least 1-2 times PER DAY. I've even had some people claim that the TB probably drains the battery much faster because it runs on 4G. I actually have 4G turned off most of the day since I don't get a 4G connection at home so that's a non-factor as well.

Don't get me wrong I like the freedoms I'm afforded by the Android operating system over the iPhone's O/S not to mention Apple's unwillingness to offer Flash capabilities, but I have no problem giving credit to Apple for what it does better than Android and battery life is one of those things. Even if the battery performance wasn't as good on the iPhone 4 as people claim, the link below does in fact prove that you CAN remove an iPhone 4's battery.

Installing iPhone 4 Battery - iFixit
 
It's like a ghost town in here. With Motorola unveiling the RAZR and the Prime talk coming soon, it's getting rough around here.
 
I like HTC because they have a bootloader unlocker which is great for rooting.


What's the advantage of rooting? I know there's the tethering hack, and you can customize it more, but besides that is there any real benefit to rooting? Oh and I know some roms let you tweak clock speed and what not, but I'm just curious if there's really a big benefit to rooting other than the ones mentioned above.
 
I can also backup using titanium root pro, I can load any updated rom I want so you constantly get the latest and greatest.

For example I'm running gingerbread with sense 3.0 on my droid incredible. It comes with gingerbread with sense 1.0. There is a rom for gingerbread with sense 3.5 also but i'm holding off on that since you have to wipe the phone to install the rom.

better battery life as custom roms typically have better options for power saving options depending on the rom.

It just opens up the phone to be similar to your PC where it becomes yours. You can do whatever you want to it. You can even download certain packages and install them yourself. Want a new keyboard? just hack it and install it. I'm sure its more complicated than that but doable.

It's really for people who are savvy gadget whores heh.


What's the advantage of rooting? I know there's the tethering hack, and you can customize it more, but besides that is there any real benefit to rooting? Oh and I know some roms let you tweak clock speed and what not, but I'm just curious if there's really a big benefit to rooting other than the ones mentioned above.
 
I can also backup using titanium root pro, I can load any updated rom I want so you constantly get the latest and greatest.

For example I'm running gingerbread with sense 3.0 on my droid incredible. It comes with gingerbread with sense 1.0. There is a rom for gingerbread with sense 3.5 also but i'm holding off on that since you have to wipe the phone to install the rom.

better battery life as custom roms typically have better options for power saving options depending on the rom.

It just opens up the phone to be similar to your PC where it becomes yours. You can do whatever you want to it. You can even download certain packages and install them yourself. Want a new keyboard? just hack it and install it. I'm sure its more complicated than that but doable.

It's really for people who are savvy gadget whores heh.



I do all those tweaks now (running Gingeritis don't ask what version) and I've even messed with the clocking some (didn't notice anything). About the only thing I like is the unlocked tethering and there's a dark mode on gingeritis that looks kind of cool but other than that unless I actually write my own rom and design it the way I want, I'm still depending on someone else writing the rom. I dunno, I just want a phone that kicks ass and takes names without me having to tweak the hell out of it.
 
never going to happen because carriers always put their crap all over it.
It's called bloatware and you cannot uninstall it.

I do all those tweaks now (running Gingeritis don't ask what version) and I've even messed with the clocking some (didn't notice anything). About the only thing I like is the unlocked tethering and there's a dark mode on gingeritis that looks kind of cool but other than that unless I actually write my own rom and design it the way I want, I'm still depending on someone else writing the rom. I dunno, I just want a phone that kicks ass and takes names without me having to tweak the hell out of it.
 
Not sure guys, ICS has a lot of new cool features (large and small) that were pretty impressive. Although I didn't really want a Samsung device, I may have to go ahead and jump on the Galaxy Nexus. They closed the presentation stating that ICS was now available to developers. So it could and may be 6-10 mos. before we see phones getting updated...maybe less time for newer phones.
 
Not sure guys, ICS has a lot of new cool features (large and small) that were pretty impressive. Although I didn't really want a Samsung device, I may have to go ahead and jump on the Galaxy Nexus. They closed the presentation stating that ICS was now available to developers. So it could and may be 6-10 mos. before we see phones getting updated...maybe less time for newer phones.

Yeah but once rooted it should not take long for the HTC Vigor to have ICS rom out there. It will be popular by some Developers.

Just want to know how well it will play with a phone with hardware buttons.....

I'm still sticking by the Vigor... Unless there is still no official announcement when the "NEXUS PRIME" releases.
 
I don't see it being released at $199, especially with the iPhone 4S being as successful as it's been. If anything that will give Verizon more reason to competitively price it. $299 sounds about right since that's what the TB ran when it first came out and that was the 1st 4G phone. I can't imagine Verizon pricing it much higher than that even with a "Dr. Dre endorsement".


$299 does sound about right based on this article. Galaxy Nexus (Nexus Prime) a Verizon LTE phone: Report


That's kind of my point. I'm far from an Apple fan and that's an
understatement, but the average person going into VZW sees the latest
iPhone at $100 cheaper than the latest android phone they're going to get
the iPhone.

Hell, the iSheeple line up for OVERpriced stuff all the time. Most don't
care if a phone has 4,000 cores and a billion GB of RAM. It's the overall
experience. And sure LTE is nice, but for most 3G (or faked higher speeds
through MIMO or whatever the 4S does) is just fine. Apps, simplicity,
etc... more important to the bulk of buyers.

I just think VZW needs to keep the new hotness android phones in line
price-wise with the new hotness iPhones, that's all. I'm not dropping
$300+ on a phone WITH a 2 year contract, that's just crazy.

But, there's a lot of tech crammed into these phones, so I suppose they
have to make their money back. Hopefully the price drops quickly.
 
Yeah but once rooted it should not take long for the HTC Vigor to have rom out there. It will be popular by some Developers.



But......



you can't help wonder if the button setup on the Vigor and other devices will make it a little more advantageous to get ICS on those devices. I put Gingerbread on my Thunderbolt back around June and I never felt it was leaps and bounds ahead of Froyo. I could probably go back to Froyo and not really miss a beat, except for my tethering and any radio updates that won't run on Froyo of course. Off topic, what the hell is a Froyo? Is it REALLY Frozen Yogurt? Wow how dopey sounding..... Froyo | Define Froyo at Dictionary.com
 
I really don't understand why so many android people think that the iPhone's battery is really that bad. I actually had an iPhone 4 issued to me at work and side by side it outlasts the Thunderbolt by at least 4-5 times longer. I can go 2-3 days without charging the iPhone 4 where the Thunderbolt I have to charge it at least 1-2 times PER DAY. I've even had some people claim that the TB probably drains the battery much faster because it runs on 4G. I actually have 4G turned off most of the day since I don't get a 4G connection at home so that's a non-factor as well.

Don't get me wrong I like the freedoms I'm afforded by the Android operating system over the iPhone's O/S not to mention Apple's unwillingness to offer Flash capabilities, but I have no problem giving credit to Apple for what it does better than Android and battery life is one of those things. Even if the battery performance wasn't as good on the iPhone 4 as people claim, the link below does in fact prove that you CAN remove an iPhone 4's battery.

Installing iPhone 4 Battery - iFixit

I never said that the iphone's battery was bad, far from it. The thing is they get their better battery life with no 4G, MUCH smaller screen, and lack of true multitasking. But the point I was trying to make in my previous post also can apply to it as well. There have been more than a few times that I was caught with my iphone without a way to charge it. Whether I didn't have the cable or a usb port/wall charger to plug the cable into. If I had the ability to pop in a spare battery that would be a huge plus in my opinion, whether the device gets 5 days or 5 hours out of the stock battery.

My first digital camera (if you could call it that) was actuall a webcam/digital cam combo. This was around the time when those Sony digital cameras with the 3.5" floppy were big. Anyway it had a non removable battery in it. It was charged when plugged into the computer's usb cable. I can't count how many times I went to take a pic and it was dead. It got around 2 hours out of a charge, but it always seemed to be dead when I needed it. Since then I never had a camera without a removable battery, and I usually get 1 or 2 sapres for it.

My point is that it's not outside the realm of possibility to get into a situation where you can't charge your phone. The ability to have a spare battery is a huge plus to me. Sure I could get one of those external battery/chargers that rapid charge the phone, but I doubt it's good for the battery in the phone, just like charging a car battery with a charger's 50A start is not good for it. I guess I'm kinda like my friend Joe Hallenbeck "Be prepared, son. That's my motto. Be Prepared." :D
 
Maybe that is because it is the exact same picture on both sites. That has a tendency to make things look a lot alike..................



That may be the case, but does it look anything like mine? :p

htc-vigor-aka-rezound.jpg




I'm still not digging that back casing. It looks like the rubbermaid trash can that's at my parents' house, all faded and worn from several years of sitting out in the Texas sun.
 
What happened to HTC's event in regards to the Vigor-Rezound, is HTC planning something special, or have they fallen asleep at the wheel.
 
I just found this article showing some official HTC OEM cases for the Rezound, including press shots. IMO, the cases are pretty cool. In one of the press shots, the soft keys are illuminated and they are red.

Link: HTC Cases show Official HTC Rezound image

In know it's not as newsworthy after the GN/ICS event last night, but I still think this phone's pretty cool. With the color theme and shape, I just don't understand why they didn't call it Incredible HD...

Here's an image. Click on the thumb/slide- the image is much bigger:

Rezound 3.jpg
 

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