Well Tim welcome to our little section of the web. I appreciate you taking time out of your day to join the forum this fine morning. Since I am kind of hip to pattern recognition, I see that you registered today posted three times, twice in this thread and once in another. All of which could be construed as inflammatory or in interweb speak trolling. please enjoy the rest of your day elsewhere.
Well Tim welcome to our little section of the web. I appreciate you taking time out of your day to join the forum this fine morning. Since I am kind of hip to pattern recognition, I see that you registered today posted three times, twice in this thread and once in another. All of which could be construed as inflammatory or in interweb speak trolling. please enjoy the rest of your day elsewhere.
Well, his "For every rumored deadline that comes and goes, within days, some new imbecile manages to crap out a post, here or elsewhere.." got him reported.
Meanwhile, even though the projected dates for Froyo have been mistaken, there is a sort of cult church doomsday-like air to that long post, which puts it in a category not above those he's slinging his doo-doo at.
I think there's a good chance that 2.2 will probably be coming along pretty soon, now that we see we're last in line.
).Just a few quick comments:
First, I wasn't addressing any one specific post or member: rather, I was referring to the entire rampantly speculating, overly optimistic Fascinate crowd (of which I'm still a part -- just less optimistic
Second, I'm not sure what kind of G-rated Disney happy-camp this forum is supposed to be, but if you want to report my entirely benign posts simply because I'm expressing myself forcefully, knock yourself out. Please be sure to help make life easier for the moderators by spelling my account name correctly.
Third, darth: I think you're right on the money, for the most part. As I said in my initial rant, it's completely irrational to believe that corporations of this size, with their resources, can't spit out a firmware update in 9 months time -- that's a ground-up dev timeframe, not a porting timeframe. And once we recognize that fact, then your suggestion here makes the most sense -- frankly, the most sense I've heard from the community in a long time.
...but having said all that, I stand by my initial [vehement] suggestion that 2.2 is not, in fact, ever going to be released to us.
Let's assume they do indeed have to wait until August to meet their contractual obligations with Microsoft re: Bing. I like your suggestion that the leaks are intentional, albeit tacit, in order to assuage the most angry, vocal Fascinate owners and thereby keep the PR thermometer in check -- this is logical and plausible.
But what doesn't quite mesh is the idea that they'd eventually -officially- release 2.2 in August. Think about how fast the market is plowing ahead: if Verizon spits out *2.2* for Fascinate owners in August 2011, it's going to make headlines, and not the good kind. Rather than having a relatively quiet community of product owners sitting here at a slow boil, which will eventually slow to a simmer and ultimately go away, an August 2.2 release would be immediate and horrible PR.
People wouldn't respond with "oh gosh, thanks Verizon! I know it took a full year, but these things take time! Love ya!" -- rather, it'll be "what the -hell- took so long? Verizon has a serious problem" and that sentiment will be pervasive and highly visible.
Essentially, they'd be shooting themselves in the foot at that point... and why would they choose to do that?
So... you know, if people want deride me for simply pointing out the obvious -- that is, we've been spinning our wheels over and over and over again, fruitlessly, for over half a year now, expecting different results each time -- then that's just fine. But *I've* decided to pull the trigger and A) accept the fact that 2.1 is the last official release this otherwise great piece of hardware will ever receive, and B) explore better market alternatives when the time comes for my next purchase.
All the best,
T
Just a few quick comments:
First, I wasn't addressing any one specific post or member: rather, I was referring to the entire rampantly speculating, overly optimistic Fascinate crowd (of which I'm still a part -- just less optimistic
Or any less painful. 
I see where you're coming from, but I disagree completely with this part here, as I'm still part of the "better late than never" crowd. People are STILL buying brand new Fascinates, and will STILL be well within the FIRST year of their contract in August, and the non-root users will welcome the enhancements and improvements 2.2 will bring.
People who want their address/phone book to work, people who want to be able to sync more than two google calendar accounts so they can have a work and a personal calender, people who run out of room on their 2GB and need apps to SD, and some who simply want a faster running phone will ALL benefit from a 2.2 official release, regardless of how late it is. Thoroughly enjoying a device for at least one year is still preferable to suffering with it for two. And I don't mean suffering with the device as a whole, just the problems, bugs or missing features 2.1 has.
You are as wrong as wrong can be about an August major update being worse than no update at all. That's like me saying, "Oh, I'm late to this appointment because of a flat tire, so I might as well not go." Late = chewed out, but the job still gets done. Not showing up = FIRED.
Your logic is flawed. Maybe you need a nap.
Edit: This is not meant to flame or insult you, just explain how I disagree.
