Prinny
Resident Linux Nutcase
Not at all; I'm more stating that they are more or less in charge of communities, such as a large portion of web space, and the android community. So, depending how you look at it, you could argue it either way.
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Not at all; I'm more stating that they are more or less in charge of communities, such as a large portion of web space, and the android community. So, depending how you look at it, you could argue it either way.
saptech
Android Expert
I like LXDE also, I have it installed for the wife & grandkids but I personally use Openbox for my setups.
9to5cynic
Android Expert
You mean they aren't using their chrome os?!?!?
SUroot
Extreme Android User
I said governments meaning in the dictionary sense. Not web presences
argedion
The TechnoFrog
Never used open box. I have used fluxbox but it will require more learning on my part. Lxde is familiar enough that it was a bit faster to learn as its a gnome derivative.
chanchan05
The Doctor
Windows. Always windows. Mac OS frustrates me. I can't seem to see where they say its "easy". There have been times where I have to be the one to try and tinker with my friends' Macbooks because they don't know how to do something on it that I do easily on my Windows.
The only non Mac/Win OS I've actually seen and used in person is Ubuntu, and well, I didn't find it intuitive enough to warrant trying to learn it, not to mention that there are a lot of workarounds needed for me to just run the stuff I'm used to using on Windows. So nah, Windows forever. LOL.
The only non Mac/Win OS I've actually seen and used in person is Ubuntu, and well, I didn't find it intuitive enough to warrant trying to learn it, not to mention that there are a lot of workarounds needed for me to just run the stuff I'm used to using on Windows. So nah, Windows forever. LOL.
SUroot
Extreme Android User
I love unity. Not sure why. Everything just seems in the right place for me
Prinny
Resident Linux Nutcase
I can understand that; I know it can be turned off as well for people like me who do not like it. The bar, I mean. I think its the fact that I started with Ubuntu 9.04 which was Gnome 2, and I really enjoyed it. Ubuntu on my laptop with the newer version seems a bit sluggish ,due to my laptops slightly older specs. If I were to go back to windows, it would be xp. Im not a fan of 7, though don't get me wrong. It's a sturdy OS.
Bob Maxey
Android Expert
It is just different, not easier. There is a learning curve when you go from Mac to PC or PC to Mac. Some people making the switch are happy and some think their new OS is harder.
I once owned an Apple laptop. It was fine for the time. The cost was easy to live with and it did take some getting use to. The screen killed anything on the PC side. The sound was amazing and text to voice (whatever Apple called it at the time) was second to none.
Now we have cheap laptops and they are sold everywhere. I have owned an Apple laptop, a GRID systems laptop, a Radio Shack laptop that looked line the GRID (GRID made them for Tandy, as I recall) a second RShack laptop, a Lifebook and a Toshiba Satellite.
I spent a fortune on them all.
Anyone remember the GRID and their pointing device? Still the best mouse device I have ever seen.
I am not sure how many people switching to Linux are truly happy in the beginning. I firmly believe that what drives many users to Linux is its cost, the UI or Microsoft hatred. Not that Linux is better, just free and it looks nice.
argedion
The TechnoFrog
I actually hated Linux when I first started using it. I had to tell it everything and I thought DOS was Dumb
However after using several distro's for several years and sticking with Microblows and its crapware I found Open Suse and it was perfect for learning for me I grew more and more fond of it as I was using it. I found that on a dual boot system I was using Winblows less and less and less and Linux more and more and more. I have stuck with fedora the past few years and have really enjoyed not needing Windows for anything. Last time I installed Fedora I did a complete wipe of my windows and have not looked back. Today its easier as Linux has more support for basic hardware and you have forums that have very knowlegable people that hang out in them and can tell you how to do anything you desire with the computer. After using Windows 8 RC I can only say I'm curious to how the final will be and if they are going to keep the metro look for the desktop.
I say each to thier own and for all you Windows people out there May your system stay virus free and your Registry stay unfragmented along with your harddrives
pool_shark
Android Expert
I use windows just because it's simple, easy, and does what I need.
I've worked with many flavors of Unix (svr4, hpux, solaris, aix, redhat) and I'm one of the few Unix admins that have no desire to have a Unix machine at home.
But I love to use busybox and have written cron, sar, and backup scripts on my phone, go figure.
I've worked with many flavors of Unix (svr4, hpux, solaris, aix, redhat) and I'm one of the few Unix admins that have no desire to have a Unix machine at home.
But I love to use busybox and have written cron, sar, and backup scripts on my phone, go figure.
SUroot
Extreme Android User
A guy I work with uses a dumb terminal in his living room / lounge for internet access. Imagine that if you will
Prinny
Resident Linux Nutcase
On the whole learning curve thing....
I think ANY OS has a learning curve, if you're used to X Y or Z.
I mean sure, I might think Linux is easy to use. Did I when I first used it? Hell no, it was hard. I was used to Windows EXE files. Not terminal, debian packages, etc.
It would be the same thing if I were a Mac OS user for life, and switched to Windows. I can't speak for Mac OS cos I've never used it, but you get where I'm going with that.
All operating systems have a learning curve, and in my opinion, none are "easier" than the other, it just depends what you've been using. More of an "I'm comfortable with X, and Y is more difficult/different to me."
Just my opinion on an OS being hard/easy.
I think ANY OS has a learning curve, if you're used to X Y or Z.
I mean sure, I might think Linux is easy to use. Did I when I first used it? Hell no, it was hard. I was used to Windows EXE files. Not terminal, debian packages, etc.
It would be the same thing if I were a Mac OS user for life, and switched to Windows. I can't speak for Mac OS cos I've never used it, but you get where I'm going with that.
All operating systems have a learning curve, and in my opinion, none are "easier" than the other, it just depends what you've been using. More of an "I'm comfortable with X, and Y is more difficult/different to me."
Just my opinion on an OS being hard/easy.
SUroot
Extreme Android User
I agree and disagree. There is a curve going from one to the other. There is also truth in the one you use most is the one thats easiest.
I'm a desktop technician (uk technical lead not that it matters) so I have some experience here. I've used linux, Mac and windows. I use linux at home, windows primarily at work. For me, windows is easier as I've used it most. I find it intuitive. Linux is my favourite because it forces me to learn more. To want to learn more...
however, new user, computer illiterate - its easier to teach and to learn windows. Since windows 7 its even easier. Is it the most frustrating os? Sometimes. But yeah, I think its the easiest
argedion
The TechnoFrog
I agree with SURoot about the easiest. It does boil down to what your used to and use most. I know guys and girls that if put in a GUI world fail misserably yet they can build systems blindfolded. I also know some who are just the opposite you place them infront of a cursor and they want to cry to mommy yet they two can put a system together blind folded. I also know people who cant even figure out where the power button is much less could explain the difference between CLI and GUI. The easiest one for us is the one we are exposed to the most. I LOVE a CLI environment but I am more comfortable and better in a GUI. I love Linux and Fedora especially however I'm better in Windows than Linux. I know Windows, how to go and edit the registry, how to tweak certain settings, and how to repair issues that occur. In Linux I'm still lost in things and no matter how willing I am to learn it It's something I know I can do in Windows. Linux gets frustrating especially when you are not as familuar with it.
My Reasons for coming to Linux are very simple and very selfish. I don't like millionaires rich. I am not a high paid indivdual and I think that giving someone who can do without even more is very unintelligent. I also have this idiotic belief that one system is not really "better" than the other just different. Linux has advantages over the other systems out there but it also falls short in other area's against the other systems. Windows is probably the easiest to learn but it also is the easiet to break. Mac OS well just you never mind about the evil in the world.
In the end it just boils down to our choice and why we use our computers to begin with. Noone is right and Noone is wrong in their choice.
My Reasons for coming to Linux are very simple and very selfish. I don't like millionaires rich. I am not a high paid indivdual and I think that giving someone who can do without even more is very unintelligent. I also have this idiotic belief that one system is not really "better" than the other just different. Linux has advantages over the other systems out there but it also falls short in other area's against the other systems. Windows is probably the easiest to learn but it also is the easiet to break. Mac OS well just you never mind about the evil in the world.
In the end it just boils down to our choice and why we use our computers to begin with. Noone is right and Noone is wrong in their choice.
MacFett
Android Expert
Building a system has nothing to do with knowing an OS.
Prinny
Resident Linux Nutcase
You have a valid point; there are people who are still new to computers, getting their first, etc. I forgot to take that into consideration.
I forget my first os....I just know it was an old Mac that had the 7 inch floppy.
saptech
Android Expert
I've seen some people who's job uses Windows but after using Linux at home or on my netbook, prefer it over windows. I know the wife & grandkids seems to prefer Linux. Most are not really techie either.
Once the wife's job wanted them to take some classes in MS Excel, so since I use only Linux on the desktop system, but had Win XP installed, I switched over to XP to let her practice using Excel. When she finish the work classes after a few days, she told me to go back into the "other windows", referring to Linux, I kept the computer on XP. It really took me by surprise.
Once the wife's job wanted them to take some classes in MS Excel, so since I use only Linux on the desktop system, but had Win XP installed, I switched over to XP to let her practice using Excel. When she finish the work classes after a few days, she told me to go back into the "other windows", referring to Linux, I kept the computer on XP. It really took me by surprise.
MacFett
Android Expert
Mine was whatever a Trash-80 ran. I used to get 3-2-1 Contact magazines and in the back they had a couple pages of BASIC. Every chance I'd get I'd sneak into the library at school and type in all the code to see what the program was. Occasionally they'd have one where you needed two months to have all of the code needed.
Shortly after that we bought a Blu Chip IBM clone. We had DOS on that. When we went to buy it they had this huge honking IBM clone and next to it for about a hundred dollar more a cute little Mac (or Apple or whatever they were called back then). My mom asked about the Mac and the guy told how wonderful they were. Mom asked about the programs it could run and he pointed to two that were each over $100. My mom asked about the IBM clone and what it could run. He pointed to a spinning magazine type rack full of programs each $5. Mom pointed to the clone and said that's the one.
I guess I just as easily could have been a Mac fanboi (thank you for saving me from that fate worse than death Mom).
argedion
The TechnoFrog
You are correct but have not paid attention to my point which was simply what we are exposed to the most is what we find easiest.
Speed Daemon
Android Expert
That would depend completely and totally on what kind of system you're talking about. For example, a security system based on empty tin cans on string and wadded up newspaper wouldn't require knowing a computer OS.
Building a computing system OTOH would require knowledge that includes at least one OS. A non-booting computer isn't considered a "system", BTW. In the jargon we'd call that "bare iron".