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"Foreign" is the wrong word to use in a forum with a global membership, as it means different things to different people: as far as I'm concerned you're a foreigner, and as far as Samsung are concerned we both are. ;) So it's too imprecise to be useful.

(Yes, I've been marking undergraduate reports - I get more pernickety about accuracy of language after a few days of that).
 
Hadron said:
"Foreign" is the wrong word to use in a forum with a global membership, as it means different things to different people: as far as I'm concerned you're a foreigner, and as far as Samsung are concerned we both are. ;) So it's too imprecise to be useful.

(Yes, I've been marking undergraduate reports - I get more pernickety about accuracy of language after a few days of that).
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Your'e right, makes sense. I meant to say other or different markets. :)
 
Even though America's a nation, too, I supposed It's acceptable to use the phrase "US variant and an international variant"? Since cell providers in the US are OH-SO-SPECIAL and we have to have a different processor and all? At least the requirement for the Qualcomm Snapdragon SOC is keeping Samsung on the ball and developing the best Exynos SoC possible...
 
I personally find "US vs international" both sad and hilarious since Canada has always had the Snapdragons too (maybe they are too polite to kick up a fuss?).

"Korean vs international" would make sense because Samsung are a Korean company. Otherwise I think "regional vs global" is better than "one country vs international", except of course that it's not even true that there's one model in North America and another in the rest of the world so that doesn't capture the reality either.
 
I've learned two things this morning:

#1 - The Samsung Unpacked event for the Galaxy Note 20 (and probably the Galaxy Buds Pro, possibly Fold 2) will be the first ONLINE ONLY unpacked. That's going to be a lot of people hitting their server all at one time, so let's hope it doesn't crash.

#2 - Tom's Guide is going sensationalist... like the once-great Forbes before it. With the headline "Samsung Galaxy Note 20 launch event details just leaked", you'd think there would be more information in the article than #1 above. Nope! So that's ONE piece of information... and not even a "detail", as it doesn't suggest when the event will be. I'd leave a comment to this effect, but that's another account I don't feel like creating.
 
I just hope it doesn't look like what all the renders have been circulating:
https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/25/...xy-note-20-plus-cad-renders-leak-design-specs

Hope the final design is:
No hole punch. Although I'm not bothered by it, but with it I don't see a difference with the current Note.

Better camera bump, meaning slimmer. Kind of looks non-premium on the rendering.

Non-edge or waterfall screen (Maybe looks cool and easier/slimmer to hold, but is frustrating when palm touches the screen). Would rather have a flat display and save some money on screen protectors that keep falling off, or buying expensive Whitestone dome glass.

Matte glass back. I know it may be copying Apple, but think the idea is nice. No easily visible fingerprints.

Just my thoughts on design, as the renderings don't look that different from the current Note. Not much incentive to upgrade.
 
Apparently screens with holes in them are a thing, too. I had high hopes (still do, though they're dimming) that the Note 20 will sport an under-display front camera. It's possible that Sammy is leaking misinformation out to throw leakers off the trail... that's happened before. I guess we'll find out in a couple of months!
 
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Apparently screens with holes in them are a thing, too. I had high hopes (still do, though they're dimming) that the Note 20 will sport an under-display front camera. It's possible that Sammy is leaking misinformation out to throw leakers off the trail... that's happened before. I guess we'll find out in a couple of months!
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I hope that is the case, to mislead until reveal. Under-display and no visible hole would be cool, and aesthetically pleasing.
 
I know their engineers have been working feverishly on it, the hope is that it was ready for scale and production in time. Of course, the FINAL sign-off for the Note is usually mid-June, so there's time to get the phone manufactured and send out the specs to accessory manufacturers. We should see something final around the first of July. Everything before that will be renders based on "leaks" and guesses.
 
It looks like the Note 20 will be available in black, red and blue; the Note 20+ in black and copper.

Also, the Exynos variants could sport the first 5nm processor in a smartphone! The Exynos 992, initially rumored to be built on a 6nm process, could very well come out on a 5nm process! Good grief - if things get any smaller we'll be in the world of quantum physics!

:eek:
 
To a degree, yes... but we've been at the level of microscopic transistors for awhile now. I was stunned when we went below the 10nm process. 5nm just blows my mind - and while I know a path to 3nm has been mapped out, it's incredible to see it
 
Actually I don't mean to a degree: the concept of a band gap, which is key to explaining semiconductors at all, arises from quantum physics.

(Actually classical physics doesn't even describe metallic conductors well. It's ok for actual electrical conductivity, but it gets the heat capacities badly wrong. Quantum physics is everywhere ;)).

But yeah, we are rapidly approaching the point where the question of how many atoms you need to produce a semiconductor component is becoming relevant.
 
AUGUST 5th! Mark your calendars!

That's the date Samsung has announced for the livestream Unpacked Event, which is expected to be a doozy! Note only the Note 20 line, but the Z-Flip, Fold 2, Buds Pro, and maybe even a few more surprises. Definitely a good reason to subscribe to the Samsung YouTube channel and get in early... since it's only livestream, I imagine the servers will be slammed 10-15 minutes before it starts!
 
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I hope that was sarcastic, @Cyberdev because I think drilling a stupid hole in that gorgeous screen is the worst part of the phone. VERY distracting! Come on, Samsung, people are buying your phones with the Infinity-O display because it's their only choice... not because they want a hole in the screen! If Samsung were to offer the Note 20 in two versions, an Infinity-O version and a Note 9-like version with a top bezel for the camera/sensors, my bet is that the latter would outsell the former five to one.
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Some people want selfies. There needs to be a hole or there needs to be a top edge bar to contain that camera. This is why there is no retina in the 10 because there would need to be more sensors and the race was fo closer to the edge. I'm personally happy with a few mil black bar at the top containing cam and sensors rather than one wee hole for a cam. Why be obsessesed with getting at least some of the display right to the top of the phone at the expence of harware placement.
Give me a small bar with cam, light sensors, iris, the works for best front cam operation for those that want it. It's a few millemeters. Lost in a pointless race to produce phones that can display edge to enge better than any others. Bring back the camera, sensor and LED notification strip.

Oh, the hole is not in the screen but just in the applied Screen protector, on the Note 10 at least.
 
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Oh, the hole is not in the screen but just in the applied Screen protector, on the Note 10 at least.
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Well no, there is a hole in the display. The cover glass doesn't have a hole, but the actual display does, which is what pretty much everyone means by "screen".

Personally I agree that a thin bezel to contain components is better than a hole in the display, though I don't care about the iris scan any more than I care about a front camera so for me it's more a case of "if you need some bezel to put a better speaker in there then do it". But it's hardly the first time that a marketing trend has trumped functionality.

(The good thing about my only replacing phones every 4-5 years is that I've a good chance of completely bypassing the whole notch/punch hole trend).
 
4-5 years??? So you still have a Note 4? Or worse... 5? Even much worse... 7?

No, trading up every 4-5 years does bypass the notch/punch trend, yes - but at the cost of keeping 4-5 year old technology and features, in an age where a phone is pretty much obsolete in 2 years. Heck, the Note 8 will only receive security patches now and no more updates: and after the Note 20 is released in August, so will the Note 9. Having used the Note 9 & 10 for nearly two years, I can't imagine going back to even the Note 4 (which was probably one of the best Notes ever made).

I don't mind a top bezel with the sensors and camera, either. It never bothered me - not nearly as much as trying to watch a video and putting up with an annoying black dot on the left of the screen where the camera is. But Samsung is gonna be Samsung, which means they have to innovate... even if it's unnecessary.
 
I have a Pixel 2. I've been on Android 10 since last Summer, and will have Android 11 as soon as a couple of critical apps are working with it. So 3 years old and not obsolete yet.

But I'm of the opinion that marketing BS aside, phone improvements have been incremental for some time, and hence I don't agree that phones become obsolete rapidly. Although I do keep an eye on the market so that if something disastrous happens to my current phone I could make an informed choice of replacement at short notice, I genuinely see nothing available currently that makes me want to upgrade.

(I do also have problems with industries and societies that push people to replace goods based on industry profits rather than their actual needs. But in this case there's no conflict because I genuinely feel no need or even desire to buy a new phone every couple of years. I do of course realise that this, plus a distrust of Google, make me a bit unusual in this forum ;)).

And Note 5?? Come on, give me some credit! ;)
 
The Note 5/7 thing was not so much a cheap shot at you (but it did imply that - sorry) as some potential lurkers who may actually have those devices. So I'll walk back my assertion that a phone is "pretty much" obsolete in 2 years. If the phone can place and take calls, texts and other... phone things, it's not really obsolete. The features, however, may get dated. How many apps can no longer run on older phones because the newer versions aren't backwards compatible? How much RAM do they eat up now - that older phones don't have the capacity to run them? I guess that was more my point.

But American culture, as sad as it is, functions as a disposable society. In a microwave world, we want the best new shiny stuff all the time. Folks from WWII era, who recycled literally everything from soup cans to hosiery to wires and tires, shake their heads at what western society has come to. I was born & raised halfway back in the 1960s & 70s - even then, things were built to last a long time. I still have things handed down to me that are not only old and beautiful, but perfectly functional... from my collection of kitchen gadgets to a 1929 Victrola. I get it - and I can get into that "new, now!" mindset over a few things like smartphones. I just try not to make it a lifestyle.

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My note passage has been 1,2,3,4...8,10. Generally on a 2-4 year cycle.

I got the 4 (Yes. fantastic phone) on a pricing error for £40 when the 3 filled with water from the headphone jack so I could only use it with wired headphones and I ended up getting the 8 (leagues better) for about -£110. Long story involving Samsung sending me a £150 voucher for taking 3 days to deliver the replacement S-Pen they had just refunded me for). I therefore only felt a little bad about spending a grand on a phone as I could consider it spread over 6 years.

The 10 is the first one I have not even thought about rooting and that was my dilemma with the 8. It was Android 8 and readings indicated that it might not survive an update to newer android without risk of bricking given my limited skills.

With the on screen fingerprint I do not miss the iris recognition at all but I also barely notice the wee black circle in the display anymore. A notch would annoy the hell out of me though.
 
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