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Makes sense doesn't it? However, if I keep waiting for AT&T vague time frame deadlines for LTE to come true, I'll grow old. HSPA+ isn't even properly rolled out. I don't mind AT&T speeds on HSPA7.2mbps devices. It's fairly good and in NYC tends to be very good, but they are just not game changers or not even a competitor in the 4G market.
If they weren't throwing out false claims about their 4G I would have absolutely no problem with AT&T. But their recent CES keynote was 1.5hrs of thin air nonsense without a single solid announcement I'm fed up with them.

Marketing...

Ha ha ha. Honestly i have seen the SAME behavior from every major player in the tech industry at one time or another. Just randomly pick someone. Apple? Intel? IBM? ..doesnt matter who you pick, they have all done the vaporware marketing trick. 90% of the time.....they come through with the promises (although it almost ruins the company when they don't). Honestly i dont see a company like AT&T dropping the ball with something like HSPA+ and LTE. Delays and excuses..maybe, but not a total fumble. I would be VERY shocked to see that.
 
Verizons 4G coverage map here shows its active in about 40 cities nationwide.

4G LTE Network | Verizon Wireless


There are over 300,000 cities and towns in the united states.

40/300,000 equals about .01%

I am thinking your defintion of "pulled it off" is a little different than..PRETTY MUCH EVEYONE else's??

Wait, 38 cities and 60 airports are getting true 4G speeds with Verizon LTE. I'm talking over 15mbps down and over 5mbps up.

In how many cities AT&T customers see those speeds? Just saying.
 
In NJ (10 miles from NYC - next to giants stadium)
1.22 down
.23 up

I should add that was running the phone as wifi hotspot and running speedtest from my laptop.

Just ran it again from the phone w/3 bars of service in my house:
1.66 down
.26 up

In comparison w/wifi on fios:
24.76 down
2.02 up


(That's with H+ and a checkmark underneath it)
 
Wait, 38 cities and 60 airports are getting true 4G speeds with Verizon LTE. I'm talking over 15mbps down and over 5mbps up.

In how many cities AT&T customers see those speeds? Just saying.

Ha ha ha....its all good.

I think the points/arguments on both sides of that little debate were adequately represented..
 
Ha ha ha....its all good.

I think the points/arguments on both sides of that little debate were adequately represented..
Hey man, I'm an AT&T longtime customer myself. I'm just irritated that nothing gets precisely announced and done on their network. While every other network has 4G user experience in place. Some of them like T-mo and Sprint have much much less money. Something is fishy that's all I'm saying.
 
Hey man, I'm an AT&T longtime customer myself. I'm just irritated that nothing gets precisely announced and done on their network. While every other network has 4G user experience in place. Some of them like T-mo and Sprint have much much less money. Something is fishy that's all I'm saying.

I think when the dust settles AT&T will have the best 4G network because the LTE will be able to drop back to hspa+ not like others that go from LTE/Wimax and drop back to 3G speeds.
 
I think when the dust settles AT&T will have the best 4G network because the LTE will be able to drop back to hspa+ not like others that go from LTE/Wimax and drop back to 3G speeds.

Sounds phenomenal in theory, very appealing.. I've been hearing that from AT&T for the past 3 months.
And do you or anyone from AT&T happen to know when will their have their LTE/HSPA+ network deployed? end of 2013? Cause Verizon already has it's LTE in 38 cities and 60 airports. It's kind of degrading to talk about this anymore...

Exactly, there is never a launch date with AT&T concerning their network.
The important thing is that they already sell HSPA+ devices with speeds throttled to what iPhone 3G from 2009 used to be able to achieve.
 
Sounds phenomenal in theory, very appealing.. I've been hearing that from AT&T for the past 3 months.
And do you or anyone from AT&T happen to know when will their have their LTE/HSPA+ network deployed? end of 2013? Cause Verizon already has it's LTE in 38 cities and 60 airports. It's kind of degrading to talk about this anymore...

Exactly, there is never a launch date with AT&T concerning their network.
The important thing is that they already sell HSPA+ devices with speeds throttled to what iPhone 3G from 2009 used to be able to achieve.

man no offense but if your so disheartened why dont you go to verizon?
 
man no offense but if your so disheartened why dont you go to verizon?

If I wasn't AT&T customer, I wouldn't know the tricks they use. Why don't I leave, because I'm still under the contract.
I will open another line and just get a thunderbolt to mess with it. Who knows, it may worth shelling out a few hundred $$$ for termination fee.
One of the main reasons I've been with AT&T is global roaming.
 
If I wasn't AT&T customer, I wouldn't know the tricks they use. Why don't I leave, because I'm still under the contract.
I will open another line and just get a thunderbolt to mess with it. Who knows, it may worth shelling out a few hundred $$$ for termination fee.
One of the main reasons I've been with AT&T is global roaming.

yea the non GSM/sim issue has always kept me here going to italy as much as I do. I have been happy with AT&T there customer service has always been good to me and I get service wherever I go in the US so for the little things like this i just have patience. good things come to those who wait ;):D
 
Molokai, Hawaii:
2.07 down
0.38 up
345ms ping

seems average to me. upload times just suck.

wasn't too sure if this was H+ running or 3g.
but most likely 3G cause i'm in a pretty isolated area.
 
Honestly if I get just as fast or almost just as fast of speeds as Verizon's 'new technology' LTE network than f it. I dont care if it is 3G on steroids, doesnt matter to me one bit.

AT&T's customer service is amazing and I have no issues what so ever with the company. They've got an amazing long term strategy in place that will truly be the most reliable network in America once it is fully up and running. I know that might be 2012-13 but thats ok, I can deal with HSPA+ backhaul till then cause once it goes LTE with HSPA+ to back it up it will definitely be the most reliable. I like what their doing personally and like I said im happy with the speed of the network now, nevermind when they 'flip the switch' for backhauled true HSPA+ in my area. Im sure LTE is faster but not enough where I will be able to tell a difference. Ill stick with AT&T and their great customer service and wait the extra second or two for a browser page to upload.
 
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Inspire 4G/w Cyanogenmod 7 rom+ Cyanogenmod Kernal

Server-San Jose,CA
Ping-125ms
Download-1868kbps
Upload-1144kbps

HSUPA enabled ^_^
 
Over 5 download and 1.25 Up.. I received at&t update yesterday and now running on H+ speeds (4g) This is only on 3 bars.. I am very pleased. Notice the "Hsdpa" connection below for proof. BTW.. this is faster than my home wifi connection. At&t finally came through!:D

I was getting .5-.8 download and very .3-.4 before update.. Proof in the pudding.. update worked!




Test Date: Apr 30, 2011 8:27:31 am
Connection Type: Hsdpa
Server: Nashville, TN
Download: 5.08 Mbps
Upload: 1.25 Mbps
...Ping: 155 ms

External IP: 68.179.174.202
Internal IP: 10.24.179.185
Latitude: 37.98593
Longitude: -87.52302

A detailed image for this result can be found here:

http://www.speedtest.net/android/49943298.

These are test I ran this morning... wow just wow.. over 5 mgbs download.. thank you at&t!
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