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Rant Thread - What really grinds your gears?
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Kaat72
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CrimsonToker
Android Expert
^ good f***in band...
Arsenal, FC Barcelona and Real Madrid.
bjacks12
Android Expert
When you buy a Foreigner album for $5 at Wal-Mart and later discover that you bought a live album >.<
20 minutes of music and 40 minutes of Kelly Hanson trying to rally the crowd.
Why the hell do people buy live albums? I want the music, not the cheering and the antics.
20 minutes of music and 40 minutes of Kelly Hanson trying to rally the crowd.
Why the hell do people buy live albums? I want the music, not the cheering and the antics.
Never really been into Live Albums.
Revenant Ghost
Android Expert
Me neither. If I wanted live music, I'd listen to it in person.
LOveWerks
Android Expert
There was only two live albums that 'stirred my soul' - one was from the group Rare Earth, and the music and audience were simpatico - no imbalance, and over mc-ing.
Frampton Comes Alive was also a great live album, too. The balance of music and audience was also good.
Still haven't heard back from FastTech... I hope that we didn't get ripped off... or, the shipping time may be longer than I expected. They say that the package has to go through customs, etc., so, I hope it all works out.
LW
kct1975
Android Expert
I once had a really bad experience with Rock Star Energy Drink. One morning, when I had not gotten much sleep the night before, I drank Rock Star, and got the shakes all over so bad that I thought I was going to have to go to the hospital. Also my heart was racing.
After a few hours, I was okay, but I swore to never drink that crap again.
Yeh, that's why it's only $5 bucks and not $15-20 bucks. Then there's also re-recordings and cover versions, using just session artists. Of course they only state the fact in the small print on the back of the CD. They didn't have to pay anything to the RIAA for the 40 minutes that's just crowd noises. In fact I believe on live, re-recordings and cover versions they only have to pay ASCAP fees, and not RIAA at all. ASCAP covers the rights to use the songs, and RIAA is for the original artist recordings made in the studio, AFAIK
...and that's why these $5 Walmart CDs exist. Same in the UK, £3 budget CDs sold in supermarkets.Mind you in China we sometimes get some interesting things happening with budget CDs. Such as "Take My Breath Away, the best of Rammstein"...huh! ...and half the songs listed on the back were Bon Jovi.... OK
Foreigner is one of those bands that's changed line-up so many times, something like nine drummers, and Mick Jones is the only original member left. LOL Spinal Tap style basically, they went through about 20 drummers, most of whom died in mysterious circumstances. So when you do hear a recent live version of something like Cold As Ice or Feels Like The First Time, they might as well be cover versions compared to the original 1977 studio recordings.
I'll just leave this budget CD here...
How Elton John paid the bills before he was famous, including pretending he was Stevie Wonder, Creedence Clearwater Revival and Nina Simone.
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LOveWerks
Android Expert
mikedt, Sir Elton John was one of the few British Artists that could go from pop, to hard rock, R & B, and even country & western styles at the drop of a hat.Yeh, that's why it's only $5 bucks and not $15-20 bucks. Then there's also re-recordings and cover versions, using just session artists. Of course they only state the fact in the small print on the back of the CD. They didn't have to pay anything to the RIAA for the 40 minutes that's just crowd noises. In fact I believe on live, re-recordings and cover versions they only have to pay ASCAP fees, and not RIAA at all. ASCAP covers the rights to use the songs, and RIAA is for the original artist recordings made in the studio, AFAIK
Mind you in China we sometimes get some interesting things happening with budget CDs. Such as "Take My Breath Away, the best of Rammstein"...huh! ...and half the songs listed on the back were Bon Jovi.... OK
Foreigner is one of those bands that's changed line-up so many times, something like nine drummers, and Mick Jones is the only original member left. LOL Spinal Tap style basically, they went through about 20 drummers, most of whom died in mysterious circumstances. So when you do hear a recent live version of something like Cold As Ice or Feels Like The First Time, they might as well be cover versions compared to the original 1977 studio recordings.
I'll just leave this budget CD here...
How Elton John paid the bills before he was famous, including pretending he was Stevie Wonder, Creedence Clearwater Revival and Nina Simone.
His early songs with lyricist Bernie Taupin were amazing. Diverse, and still destined for radio play - as it used to be, back in the day.
Now, radio is mostly automated, aside from the morning programs where a three or foursome of popular dee-jays yuck it up, and take phone calls.
The younger generation
may have plethora downloads, iTunes, et al...
Yet, they don't have the magic over the airwaves that lasted from the 1950s through the 1970s. By the time the '80s arrived, "shock" deejays took pop & rock radio into the era we're in now - whiny, 'emo' sounding female deejays that let you know by their diction and syntax that they rolled on ecstacy the night before.
The 'airwave magic' isn't the same as it used to be... throw in XM/Sirius, and while you may get a plentiful selection of ANYTHING you want to hear - that intimate relationship between the deejay and the listener has left the building with Elvis Presley.
I know, I know - to stay current, one needs to change with the times; yet, as a performing musician that doesn't use pitch correction soft or hardware to make sure that I sing in tune - this old dog is done with his rant.
I guess that I have to 'roll with the changes' - with a few provisos, of course.
Here's some news from Rolling Stone - they're releasing all of John Lennon's stuff, digitized and cleaned up.
Amen. LW
LW I've always liked the music of Sir Elton John, long before he was knighted. But in our household in the 1970s when I was young, it was always budget LPs from Woolworths. Father must have been one of "Music For Pleasure"s or "Stereo Gold Award"s best customers. When they started doing covers of punk in the late '70s, like Sex Pistols or The Clash, they were awful. Probably because the session artists were trying to be the Bee Gees for one song, and the next trying to sound like Johnny Rotten. 
Used to have one LP given as a birthday present, it was called "Funky Junction Play Tribute To Deep Purple", that was Stereo Gold Award. But I read quite recently "Funky Junction" was actually Thin Lizzy, when they were basically hard-up for cash.
Listening to the radio, Radio 1, Radio Luxembourg(Fab208), etc, was always great, knew all the DJs by name and what times they were going to be on.
But in our household in the 1970s when I was young, it was always budget LPs from Woolworths. Father must have been one of "Music For Pleasure"s or "Stereo Gold Award"s best customers. When they started doing covers of punk in the late '70s, like Sex Pistols or The Clash, they were awful. Probably because the session artists were trying to be the Bee Gees for one song, and the next trying to sound like Johnny Rotten. Used to have one LP given as a birthday present, it was called "Funky Junction Play Tribute To Deep Purple", that was Stereo Gold Award. But I read quite recently "Funky Junction" was actually Thin Lizzy, when they were basically hard-up for cash.
Listening to the radio, Radio 1, Radio Luxembourg(Fab208), etc, was always great, knew all the DJs by name and what times they were going to be on.
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Dngrsone
Android Expert
One artist/group that is flexible as all get-out, but doesn't get any credit is 'Weird All' Yankovic.
Think about it: he covers most genres, from pop, to punk, even a few country songs, he's been using the same three guys to play everything, and not only do they cover the musical style of their targets well, sometimes their compositions are better than the original they are parodying.
Look at the original songs he writes, and one can usually tell which artist/group is being honored with a stylistic homage. Also, Al does nearly all the vocals in the studio.
Think about it: he covers most genres, from pop, to punk, even a few country songs, he's been using the same three guys to play everything, and not only do they cover the musical style of their targets well, sometimes their compositions are better than the original they are parodying.
Look at the original songs he writes, and one can usually tell which artist/group is being honored with a stylistic homage. Also, Al does nearly all the vocals in the studio.
PattiCakeUS
Android Expert
Anyone who knows me, knows I'm generally a pretty patient, calm person, I usually hold my tongue & never yell at people (especially strangers). But yesterday after work, I had to stop at the grocery store for 2 quick things. In the parking lot I had a brief encounter with someone who was driving WAY faster than he should have been, & would have hit me if I hadn't stopped in the middle of turning down a lane.
When I parked & got out of my car, I saw he was 20 feet ahead of me walking into the store, so I yelled at him. It was kind of fun to actually say what I thought for once.
Naturally, inside the store we crossed paths 2 other times & he made snarky remarks, & I responded but kept on moving. Idiot.
Our exchange went something like this:
In the parking lot:
Me: Hey buddy, you shouldn't drive so fast in a parking lot!
In the store:
Him (to the child he had with him): We ruined that lady's day (with a big smile on his face)
Me: Don't flatter yourself.
Him: Have you always been so crotchety?
Me: I'm not crotchety, I just don't like people almost hitting me.
I was in the store just a couple minutes, when I got back outside I noticed he has a lot of dents on his car. Figures.
When I parked & got out of my car, I saw he was 20 feet ahead of me walking into the store, so I yelled at him. It was kind of fun to actually say what I thought for once.
Naturally, inside the store we crossed paths 2 other times & he made snarky remarks, & I responded but kept on moving. Idiot.
Our exchange went something like this:
In the parking lot:
Me: Hey buddy, you shouldn't drive so fast in a parking lot!
In the store:
Him (to the child he had with him): We ruined that lady's day (with a big smile on his face)
Me: Don't flatter yourself.
Him: Have you always been so crotchety?
Me: I'm not crotchety, I just don't like people almost hitting me.
I was in the store just a couple minutes, when I got back outside I noticed he has a lot of dents on his car. Figures.
Gmash
Extreme Android User
Good for you, PattiCake!
As for live albums, I like live music, it's not as overproduced as most of the studio stuff is these days. Especially with a lot of the female singers, they do so much studio tinkering that you don't even know they have talent until you hear them live. That said, I prefer to watch live performances on YouTube or DVD, there is a disconnect when you can't see them. (and yes, some singers talk too much lol)
This girl was an actress on the show Gossip Girl, if you listened to her albums you wouldn't know her voice had this much nuance. It's like the studios try to smooth everything over so much that they suck out the detail.
As for live albums, I like live music, it's not as overproduced as most of the studio stuff is these days. Especially with a lot of the female singers, they do so much studio tinkering that you don't even know they have talent until you hear them live. That said, I prefer to watch live performances on YouTube or DVD, there is a disconnect when you can't see them. (and yes, some singers talk too much lol)
This girl was an actress on the show Gossip Girl, if you listened to her albums you wouldn't know her voice had this much nuance. It's like the studios try to smooth everything over so much that they suck out the detail.
CrimsonToker
Android Expert
YouTube "Zepperella", and if you haven't heard of them before now, you're welcome!
Dngrsone
Android Expert
I've heard of them, haven't had a chance to look them up on YouTube. Thanks for reminding me.
Dngrsone
Android Expert
Stupid kid driving a muscle car, barreling though the parking lot; almost hit me and my daughter.
I gave him my best "please, by all means proceed" gesture. After all, he outweighed my by 1,300 lbs and must have been in much more of a hurry to get somewhere (likely his own funeral) than two pedestrians headed to class.
I gave him my best "please, by all means proceed" gesture. After all, he outweighed my by 1,300 lbs and must have been in much more of a hurry to get somewhere (likely his own funeral) than two pedestrians headed to class.
LOveWerks
Android Expert
What is it with some drivers when Spring makes its nod?
"Whee, the roads are clear... think I'll cut someone off - since I'm on private property in a
parking lot!"
As they turn up the raw bass on the hip hop tunes, making the trunk vibrate.
Summer's coming. The fun is just beginning. PattiCakeUS, did the guy actually use the word 'crotchety'?
I'd expect that word coming out of some poor soul in a nursing home... or, he was on good behavior because his kid was with him.
mikedt, I was lucky as a kid... due to having a promoter with Cellar Door being one of my second cousins, I got LP albums out of the wazoo... my father had an acquaintance who was involved in supplying all of the jukeboxes with 45 rpm records... I had stacks of them! Aretha Franklin, Ray Charles, Mandrill, Blood, Sweat & Tears... and, of course, The Beatles and The Beach Boys.
Most toddlers were listening to "Dinah, The Dancing Dinosaur" - or, "I'm Dressing Myself." I was listening to Buddy Greco, Dusty Springfield, and Brian Wilson and 'The Boys'.
Not to mention the plethora Italian artists like Renato Corazone, Sergio Franchi, Frank, Louis, Dean, Tony, and Connie Francis.
I like Maroon 5... am I getting more hip? LW
"Whee, the roads are clear... think I'll cut someone off - since I'm on private property in a
parking lot!"
As they turn up the raw bass on the hip hop tunes, making the trunk vibrate.
Summer's coming. The fun is just beginning. PattiCakeUS, did the guy actually use the word 'crotchety'?
I'd expect that word coming out of some poor soul in a nursing home... or, he was on good behavior because his kid was with him.
mikedt, I was lucky as a kid... due to having a promoter with Cellar Door being one of my second cousins, I got LP albums out of the wazoo... my father had an acquaintance who was involved in supplying all of the jukeboxes with 45 rpm records... I had stacks of them! Aretha Franklin, Ray Charles, Mandrill, Blood, Sweat & Tears... and, of course, The Beatles and The Beach Boys.
Most toddlers were listening to "Dinah, The Dancing Dinosaur" - or, "I'm Dressing Myself." I was listening to Buddy Greco, Dusty Springfield, and Brian Wilson and 'The Boys'.
Not to mention the plethora Italian artists like Renato Corazone, Sergio Franchi, Frank, Louis, Dean, Tony, and Connie Francis.
I like Maroon 5... am I getting more hip? LW
PattiCakeUS
Android Expert
But haven't you heard? It's all about that bass...!
Yep, he sure did. He was kind of a crusty, older-looking guy (could be my age for all I know, but if so, he sure hasn't aged well). Long gray hair & craggy, wrinkled face. "Crotchety" fit him perfectly!
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zuben el genub
Extreme Android User
Our kid listened to the Rolling Stones, Savoy Brown, Jethro Tull. The Vulcan had a band and that's what he practiced to.
Woodstock album was mostly live - we had to make sure she didn't give the FISH cheer.
She got into Bill Cosby and Cheech and Chong comedy albums at an early age. I don't think we had any kid's music.
We did watch Sesame Street, but that was it. She loved Carl Sagan's Cosmos. She'd hear the intro and come running to watch.
We did read a lot of kid's books together, though.
She could be annoying with music. We had a skating recital and someone used "Born in the USA" Not according to the brat.
Someone finally realized she was singing "Born in East LA" from a Cheech and Chong movie.
Woodstock album was mostly live - we had to make sure she didn't give the FISH cheer.
She got into Bill Cosby and Cheech and Chong comedy albums at an early age. I don't think we had any kid's music.
We did watch Sesame Street, but that was it. She loved Carl Sagan's Cosmos. She'd hear the intro and come running to watch.
We did read a lot of kid's books together, though.
She could be annoying with music. We had a skating recital and someone used "Born in the USA" Not according to the brat.
Someone finally realized she was singing "Born in East LA" from a Cheech and Chong movie.