That's exactly what happened to me. After their tech people kept sending me links to their support pages (to no avail) they suggested I repurchase the content. Mine was also due to a crashed hard drive (on my Ipod). That's when they lost me as a customer & my dislike for Apple started. Hope that's a good enough reason.
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That's exactly what happened to me. After their tech people kept sending me links to their support pages (to no avail) they suggested I repurchase the content. Mine was also due to a crashed hard drive (on my Ipod). That's when they lost me as a customer & my dislike for Apple started. Hope that's a good enough reason.
blkbeltkid17
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i have never really liked apple and with all the new lawsuites that are now coming form them the hate is even worse
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TxGoat
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DRM is mostly a product of the greedy music execs and not really Apple. Apple's iTunes has all that content because it has such a PITA DRM system in place. You'd think these music execs were fighting to keep more money in the music artist's pockets but nope, the music artist barely even gets a percentage of sales for their music. Not that I'm defending Apple since they're part of that greedy system, but the music execs are some of the biggest scumbags out there.
Blackthantos, have your G/F try what is illustrated below. With Apple it's not just a simple process of cutting your music library from one computer to another. You actually have to "Authorize computer" on the new computer or hard drive as well.
Blackthantos, have your G/F try what is illustrated below. With Apple it's not just a simple process of cutting your music library from one computer to another. You actually have to "Authorize computer" on the new computer or hard drive as well.
Blackthanos
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Will do. Thanks
civicsisedan
Android Expert
If i do get the Vigor instead of the Nexus it doesnt really matter when HTC releases an updated. There will be an ICS rom wayyy before Verizon and HTC release an official update. Its not that hard to root and try it out and if you dont like it you can always flash back to stock.
So official updates don't really matter to me and I dont see what the big deal is.
Just my .02
So official updates don't really matter to me and I dont see what the big deal is.
Just my .02
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TxGoat
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The only problem I have with the whole rom scene is that it's sometimes a crap shoot, and then sometimes you can really jack your phone up.
hovercraftdriver25
Android Enthusiast
That's like saying sometimes you can crash your car
Research on how to root, using reputable devs' roms that have been tested, and following directions alleviate this problem 99.99% of the time. Guarantee that jacked up phones only occur when the above formula is not followed. The .01 would apply to those who don't.
That said, rooting is not for everyone and I get that.
DRM is mostly a product of the greedy music execs and not really Apple. Apple's iTunes has all that content because it has such a PITA DRM system in place. You'd think these music execs were fighting to keep more money in the music artist's pockets but nope, the music artist barely even gets a percentage of sales for their music. Not that I'm defending Apple since they're part of that greedy system, but the music execs are some of the biggest scumbags out there.
Blackthantos, have your G/F try what is illustrated below. With Apple it's not just a simple process of cutting your music library from one computer to another. You actually have to "Authorize computer" on the new computer or hard drive as well.
In my case the computer's hard drive didn't crash, but the ipod's. I had to send it in and they replaced the hard drive and battery. After I got it back, my music purchases were fine, but itunes didn't recognize me as the legitimate owner of my videos. I tried deauthorizing and reauthorizing, I wiped all authorized devices and added them back and no help. After a week of emailing back and forth with itunes support (all they did was keep sending me links to their support pages, which I had already gone through but tried again anyway), they said the solution was to repurchase my video content. I asked if they would credit my account to do that and I was told that they could not do that, that it would be up to me to foot the bill. I was ticked to say the least since I had already purchased the content once (around $75 worth), and their program was causing the problem. I was told that was all they could do.
Shortly after apple and I parted ways, I had to reinstall windows. I started with a new hard drive, so it was a clean install, installed itunes, logged in, authorized my computer, then after adding all my music and videos back in I connected my ipod. Same as before, music was fine, I could watch my videos in itunes (though it asked me with each video I opened to authorize myself as the owner), but I couldn't transfer my videos to my ipod no matter what I did, because it said I was not the authorized owner even after seconds before reauthorizing myself.
What really makes me angry is if they had simply credited my account so I could repurchase my content, I would probably still be a customer today. At that time I was still looking forward to Verizon getting the iphone. But they got greedy and didn't support a customer. Since then when I have looked for videos, sometimes itunes is the only one that has them. But after my experience I will not even consider getting it from them.
It's not like I had a device that was out of warranty and I demanded it be fixed, this was for the content that I had purchased. I had actually bought the extended warranty and the repair to my ipod was taken care of through it. I upheld my end of the deal, if they whould've upheld their's, either by actually finding the cause of the issue or making it right by allowing me to repurchase the content without charge, they would've still had a loyal customer.
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TxGoat
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Like I said, DRM (Digital Rights Management) is more a product of the owners of the content. iTunes is definitely a POS when it comes to DRM flexibility, but I've also had problems with Windows when it comes to media that I have the rights to. I've even had trouble with Amazon when it comes to their media. Ask me about the movie I don't have in my library even though I paid for because I had a computer crash on me and Amazon won't re-issue me a license to play the movie.
Had that to with Amazon. But it is necessary or we'd be sharing everything like a bunch of pinko commies!
hovercraftdriver25
Android Enthusiast
I know there was concern about this before, but here is what a Google rep "officially" said about the hardware vs. onscreen buttons in ICS:
“ICS does have onscreen buttons but not always. If there’s a device with hardware buttons the onscreen buttons won’t be there, and the hardware buttons will act and function as you’d expect them to…. back and home will function as you’d expect, the search button will query the search bar (as you’d expect), and the menu button will query the menu overflow in the action bar.”
Link here, from Phandroid > Engadget:
Yes, Your Android Buttons Will Still Work with Ice Cream Sandwich
“ICS does have onscreen buttons but not always. If there’s a device with hardware buttons the onscreen buttons won’t be there, and the hardware buttons will act and function as you’d expect them to…. back and home will function as you’d expect, the search button will query the search bar (as you’d expect), and the menu button will query the menu overflow in the action bar.”
Link here, from Phandroid > Engadget:
Yes, Your Android Buttons Will Still Work with Ice Cream Sandwich
Saw that too. I don't know why everyone was in such a tizzy over the onscreen buttons and how they'd work on devices with capacitive buttons. If ICS worked the way everone feared, Google would be drawing a line in the sand as far as upgrades go. They don't usually do that unless there is no way for the hardware to support it. Remember how originally the only devies to get GB had to be at least a 4" screen and a few other specs that basically eliminated most phones from last year? And yet those phones are getting GB.
Besides I can't imagine it's that hard to code into ICS to have it check the location in the device software that shows whether or not the device has hardware buttons. All it would be is an if/then gate, that's basic microprocessing/computing.
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The issue I would have had with the on-screen buttons and hardware buttons was if the on-screen buttons would show up, which would take up screen space. Not sure who else feels the same way...
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TxGoat
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That's what I saw it as, with on-screen buttons you'd have less screen space. Without the onscreen buttons you'd have that extra real estate for screen space....
I can see that. But I couldn't understand why Google would leave it that way. If they would, they have a ton of people complaining that they lost screen space after upgrading, and either wanting them to fix it or make it possible to go back to GB.
Well it is a good thing that we don't have to worry about that. When we get ICS it will be without the on-screen buttons. Plus honestly I much rather get this phone with an established OS on it. You have to figure most of the bugs have been stamped out of GB by now.
I hope HTC takes their time with ICS and gets it right the first time...
I hope HTC takes their time with ICS and gets it right the first time...
compchick813
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I agree. And it will also probably take longer for ICS roms to start coming out, so at least with physical buttons we have the option to run GB or ICS. Although once there is a mostly-stable ICS rom for the Vigor (yes, Vigor!) I doubt most people would go back to GB. I also think it will take a while for apps to be updated to work with ICS anyway.
Very good points. But I am OK with waiting, by the time we see an OTA or ROMS I think most apps will be optimized for ICS (i hope)
And for real when i get the Vigor (yes, vigor
) I'm gonna tell people "this is the HTC Vigor (or Droid Vigor if it gets branded a droid)"
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TxGoat
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I have to disagree here. Have you ever taken your time with an ice cream sandwich only to get a melted gooey mess all over yourself?
Blackthanos
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I'm on my 4th day using Sense 3.5 and figured I'd provide everyone with some feedback on it. While many people are on the fence about ICS/Sense 3.5 I personally think that I'd rather have ICS immediately on my phone over the GB/Sense 3.5 with ability to upgrade later. While I'm enjoying the widgets and having easy access to some of the more used apps, I think I'd rather have ICS available to me. I don't think you're going to really miss out on anything grand by going to an exclusive ICS setup vs a setup with Sense 3.5. Now there are some people out there that must have their Sense regardless of whatever version is available and 3.5 is a little bit of a step up for 3.0 and if you're in that boat then you can probably do without ICS until they work out all the kinks.
I personally think Sense 3.5 isn't a deal breaker for me on an Android phone at this point.
I personally think Sense 3.5 isn't a deal breaker for me on an Android phone at this point.
Have you had a chance to use ICS? and your "daily driver" ROM before switching to 3.5 , was it sense or non-sense?
Not looking good for the VigoRezound
HTC’s list of devices that will surely get ICS :
* HTC Sensation (XL,XE,Original)
* HTC EVO 3D
* HTC Incredible S
* HTC Desire HD
* HTC Flyer
* HTC Rhyme
* HTC Desire S
* HTC Salsa
* HTC Desire Z
* Google Nexus One”
http://www.myhtc.biz/blog/2011/htc-phone-list-potentially-receive-ice-cream-sandwich/
HTC’s list of devices that will surely get ICS :
* HTC Sensation (XL,XE,Original)
* HTC EVO 3D
* HTC Incredible S
* HTC Desire HD
* HTC Flyer
* HTC Rhyme
* HTC Desire S
* HTC Salsa
* HTC Desire Z
* Google Nexus One”
http://www.myhtc.biz/blog/2011/htc-phone-list-potentially-receive-ice-cream-sandwich/
CaseyKees
Android Enthusiast
Since you guys are talking about apple, is the iphone4 3g? My DH would like an iphone, but wants to wait until they are 4g capable to spend the money. He really needs a new phone and he is going to take my incredible when i get my rezound/vigor. But he really loves his ipod and wants an iphone. i was thinking about trying to get his upgrade moved up 6 weeks so I can get him a 4s for christmas, or i was thinking of trying to pick up a used 4 to get him by and not mess with locking him in for 2 years so if the 5 ever comes out, and it's 4g, then he could get that.