You don't need to wish
, it is supposed to be built in, the ability to not use/hide the on screen buttons..-
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You don't need to wish
, it is supposed to be built in, the ability to not use/hide the on screen buttons..
blkbeltkid17
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You don't need to wish
haha i read that wrong i though you were talking about hiding the captive buttons lol
ISASoilder
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The apps on our current phone should be compatable with ICS right???
Not necessarily, Apps will need to be updated to be compatible with ICS "probably". Most authors will update their apps though. (unless the app has been abandoned)
blkbeltkid17
Android Expert
I thought the developers already had the stuff they needed to make the apps compatible with ICS
I am sure they do. It's just a matter of setting them up for ICS. If an app has a lazy dev then it might take awhile. If the app has been abandoned, then we won't see anything for it, like what was posted above.
blkbeltkid17
Android Expert
I didn't take much to go from éclair to froyo but from froyo to honeycomb was a lot so he is to hoping it won't be that much to go from froyo to ICS
I'm not quite sure what you're talking about. As far as phones go it was Cupcake to Donut to Eclair to Froyo to Gingerbread to Ice Cream Sandwich. Honeycomb wasn't available on phones, only tablets. As far as the Vigor, that will be going from GB to ICS.
blkbeltkid17
Android Expert
Yeah I know but as all the apps alot when from froyo to HC and froyo to GB so they will be supported on tablets and phones
jikhead
Android Expert
Not sure guys, ICS has a lot of new cool features (large and small) that were pretty impressive. Although I didn't really want a Samsung device, I may have to go ahead and jump on the Galaxy Nexus. They closed the presentation stating that ICS was now available to developers. So it could and may be 6-10 mos. before we see phones getting updated...maybe less time for newer phones.
blkbeltkid17
Android Expert
just the SDK was released meaning that developers can work on apps but i know i am waiting on the source code so the modding community can get a hold of it and if it cn be ported to older phones or if a rom can be made to the phones out now
compchick813
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Yeah, I wonder how long it will be until they release the source.
jikhead
Android Expert
HTC: We're reviewing Ice Cream Sandwich and determining our plans -- Engadget
If it doesn't ship with ICS, I'd say you'll be many months away before it is upgraded. I'm guessing no sooner than 6 mos., probably more. And it looks like of all the HTC phones on Verizon, that this phone will be the only one to get upgraded.
If it doesn't ship with ICS, I'd say you'll be many months away before it is upgraded. I'm guessing no sooner than 6 mos., probably more. And it looks like of all the HTC phones on Verizon, that this phone will be the only one to get upgraded.
DarbagDarbag
Android Enthusiast
yeah but it was announced today that basically any phone with 2.3 can be upgraded to 4.0.
I know that isn't a solid fact, but look at this...
Google confirms Nexus S will get Ice Cream Sandwich -- for real this time (Gingerbread devices, too) -- Engadget
"Okay, so we've already seen Ice Cream Sandwich running on the Nexus S, but that was decidedly... unofficial. We've just heard straight from Google's Gabe Cohen that the Nexus S will definitely be getting ICS. In fact, both he and Matias Duarte think most Gingerbread devices will see an upgrade, saying: "Currently in the process for releasing Ice Cream Sandwich for Nexus S. Theoretically should work for any 2.3 device." It's hardly a surprise and there's no specific word on timing just yet, but hopefully it won't take long to move that vanilla Android device up to something with a breaded exterior.
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so there is a good chance I think that if the vigor doesnt come with ics (probably wont), then it shouldn't be too long before it can.
I know that isn't a solid fact, but look at this...
Google confirms Nexus S will get Ice Cream Sandwich -- for real this time (Gingerbread devices, too) -- Engadget
"Okay, so we've already seen Ice Cream Sandwich running on the Nexus S, but that was decidedly... unofficial. We've just heard straight from Google's Gabe Cohen that the Nexus S will definitely be getting ICS. In fact, both he and Matias Duarte think most Gingerbread devices will see an upgrade, saying: "Currently in the process for releasing Ice Cream Sandwich for Nexus S. Theoretically should work for any 2.3 device." It's hardly a surprise and there's no specific word on timing just yet, but hopefully it won't take long to move that vanilla Android device up to something with a breaded exterior.
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so there is a good chance I think that if the vigor doesnt come with ics (probably wont), then it shouldn't be too long before it can.
while I think it will come, HTC's Sense over lay will add a delay. I love Sense but it does add time to roll outs on phones...
I'm kind of interested to compare Sense 3.5 (supposedly what vigor comes with) with ICS as far as the UI functionality is concerned.
I don't want to rain on your parade, but based on past experience, you won't see ICS on the Rezound for 6 months at the very earliest (edit adds somebody I noticed after posting who agrees on this timeframe, emphasis added). It could easily turn into 8 months or a year. For a lot of us, that's 25%-50% of the time you'll use the phone. Of course, rooters will be able to get it sooner, but not with Sense, which is a large reason I've been sticking with the HTC phones.
I just don't want to see a bunch of negativity against HTC and disappointment on here when ICS takes a while to come. See the Thunderbolt forums for examples of this. I bought my Thunderbolt knowing the issues going in--and I love that phone (with its extended battery).
Slow upgrading is how things have gone in the past. Remember, it has to pass both Verizon and HTC development and testing. You should purchase the phone because you're happy with the way it runs, more or less, at the time you buy it. If you've gotta have ICS, you should at least look at the Galaxy Nexus (I am torn, because I've always liked my HTC Android phones, and have had a bad experience with a couple of Samsung "dumb" phones).
hovercraftdriver25
Android Enthusiast
From Engadget:
"We've just heard straight from Google's Gabe Cohen that the Nexus S will definitely be getting ICS. In fact, both he and Matias Duarte think most Gingerbread devices will see an upgrade, saying: "Currently in the process for releasing Ice Cream Sandwich for Nexus S. Theoretically should work for any 2.3 device." It's hardly a surprise and there's no specific word on timing just yet, but hopefully it won't take long to move that vanilla Android device up to something with a breaded exterior."
Just read on Phandroid that Razr is going to get it too. Think I read where both are estimated at "early 2012" timeframe, so look for it next August, LOL.
Anyway, seems pretty likely that HTC will promise same thing for Vigzound
"We've just heard straight from Google's Gabe Cohen that the Nexus S will definitely be getting ICS. In fact, both he and Matias Duarte think most Gingerbread devices will see an upgrade, saying: "Currently in the process for releasing Ice Cream Sandwich for Nexus S. Theoretically should work for any 2.3 device." It's hardly a surprise and there's no specific word on timing just yet, but hopefully it won't take long to move that vanilla Android device up to something with a breaded exterior."
Just read on Phandroid that Razr is going to get it too. Think I read where both are estimated at "early 2012" timeframe, so look for it next August, LOL.
Anyway, seems pretty likely that HTC will promise same thing for Vigzound
jikhead
Android Expert
Some of you are really hopeful on the Rezound getting ICS in the 1st Q of 2012, which I don't think will happen. Based on HTC's track record, what if anything implies that this phone will get it extra sooner than previous phones? At the earliest, 6 mos. and could go all the way to the end of 2012. Although I think HTC will try, most of their efforts are going to be sticking ICS in a new phone from scratch, which may be easier to do.
Using my Incredible as an example, I purchased on release day in April 2010. Everyone including HTC said that Froyo was coming. I don't believe my phone got it until October or November...6-7 mos. later. Gingerbread was supposed to be released back in late spring/early summer. It was released, what in September, then pulled back due to problems. So it's been another 6-7 mos. track record and still waiting on Gingerbread.
So, if you're hoping to buy the Rezound and have ICS in Jan.-March.....you're crazy. Like what previous person said, don't buy this phone on this merit only' buy it because you like the way it is when you buy it. The RAZR will have ICS before the Rezound.
Using my Incredible as an example, I purchased on release day in April 2010. Everyone including HTC said that Froyo was coming. I don't believe my phone got it until October or November...6-7 mos. later. Gingerbread was supposed to be released back in late spring/early summer. It was released, what in September, then pulled back due to problems. So it's been another 6-7 mos. track record and still waiting on Gingerbread.
So, if you're hoping to buy the Rezound and have ICS in Jan.-March.....you're crazy. Like what previous person said, don't buy this phone on this merit only' buy it because you like the way it is when you buy it. The RAZR will have ICS before the Rezound.
Completely agree. ICS looks complex in the sense that getting sense to work with it will be a pain. *IF* this phone comes out soon we will be waiting AT LEAST till april i would guess. (at the earliest)
Froyo started rolling out first week of aug which was still 4 months after release. Your point is completely valid still though. Eclair to Froyo was a walk in a park, any phone going from GB to ICS will take WAY longer judging from the looks of ICS.
Also agree that HTC will concentrate more on making a new phone with ICS since it will be easier to develop a phone around ICS than it will be to mesh sense and ICS...
Most of all though, get this phone because you want it AS IS... Consider any upgrades a gift considering.....
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What makes me wonder is the Incredible 2. That was upgraded to 2.3.3 pretty quick. Then a month later it was upgraded to 2.3.4. I'm wondering if the low space notification issue is what is holding up the GB rollout for the Inc1.
As far as the Tbolt, that seems to have been a problem child from the get go, as far as updates anyway. Since the Tbolt shipped with Sense 2.0 I wonder if that is what's screwing up the rollout. Other LTE phones have gotten the GB update, so I don't think it has to do with LTE, and since the Tbolt and Inc2 have similar internals save the LTE radio, the only difference I can see is Sense 2.0. Maybe if they updated it to Sense 2.1 then went to GB that would help. But without being behind the scenes it's hard to say.
After seeing the announcement that HTC is mulling over what to do with updating to ICS with Sense, I may wait on the Vigor. I think what they're actually mulling over is what parts of their Sense UI overlay that they want to incorporate. As some have said some of the features in ICS are in Sense, so struggling with trying to port them when ICS has them already would be futile, unless the Sense version would be better.
I have heard some rumblings that we might see another HTC device later this year or early next year that ships with ICS. If that is the case I'd rather wait and get it on the device at launch rahter than wait for it to be updated. The only thing I worry about is they might put it on a phone that is inferior to the Vigor as far as specs go. Phones released now should fall under the plan for rapid updates so who knows. By that I mean the consortium they announced at the last Google I/O to update the phones in a timely manner.
At this point I don't know what to do. The Razr is out for me with the non removable battery. The G-Nex looks good, but with the benchmarks that leaked that kinda worries me, especially after what the GS2 did on them. My other issue with the G-Nex is it being a Samsung product. I have never been really happy after any Samsung purchase. I recently got one of their blu-ray players with wi-fi & allshare. Last weekend I had to do a complete reset on it when it would no longer connect to the internet through the wired connection. The only thing I did was have my ISP bump up the speed. The player is only aobut a month old, so I can't say I'm feeling good about picking up another of their products.
I guess the good thing is if I wait my final NE2 will be available on 12/28 so that'll at least knock off another $50. Maybe by that time we'll know more on HTC's ICS update plans or hear something about quad cores. My Inc2 is still running fine so I'm not in any rush, but the Vigor just looked so damn nice. Oh HTC, why do you torture me so?!?
As far as the Tbolt, that seems to have been a problem child from the get go, as far as updates anyway. Since the Tbolt shipped with Sense 2.0 I wonder if that is what's screwing up the rollout. Other LTE phones have gotten the GB update, so I don't think it has to do with LTE, and since the Tbolt and Inc2 have similar internals save the LTE radio, the only difference I can see is Sense 2.0. Maybe if they updated it to Sense 2.1 then went to GB that would help. But without being behind the scenes it's hard to say.
After seeing the announcement that HTC is mulling over what to do with updating to ICS with Sense, I may wait on the Vigor. I think what they're actually mulling over is what parts of their Sense UI overlay that they want to incorporate. As some have said some of the features in ICS are in Sense, so struggling with trying to port them when ICS has them already would be futile, unless the Sense version would be better.
I have heard some rumblings that we might see another HTC device later this year or early next year that ships with ICS. If that is the case I'd rather wait and get it on the device at launch rahter than wait for it to be updated. The only thing I worry about is they might put it on a phone that is inferior to the Vigor as far as specs go. Phones released now should fall under the plan for rapid updates so who knows. By that I mean the consortium they announced at the last Google I/O to update the phones in a timely manner.
At this point I don't know what to do. The Razr is out for me with the non removable battery. The G-Nex looks good, but with the benchmarks that leaked that kinda worries me, especially after what the GS2 did on them. My other issue with the G-Nex is it being a Samsung product. I have never been really happy after any Samsung purchase. I recently got one of their blu-ray players with wi-fi & allshare. Last weekend I had to do a complete reset on it when it would no longer connect to the internet through the wired connection. The only thing I did was have my ISP bump up the speed. The player is only aobut a month old, so I can't say I'm feeling good about picking up another of their products.
I guess the good thing is if I wait my final NE2 will be available on 12/28 so that'll at least knock off another $50. Maybe by that time we'll know more on HTC's ICS update plans or hear something about quad cores. My Inc2 is still running fine so I'm not in any rush, but the Vigor just looked so damn nice. Oh HTC, why do you torture me so?!?
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TxGoat
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You know how many peoples' bubbles you just burst with that statement?
i burst no bubbles! I swear, i'm a friend to all things bubblythat is of course only a guess..... seems that getting sense 3.5 over ICS will take FOREVER on a phone that is already out...
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The main reason I was willing to wait for the Vigor was because in the past, stock Android has been difficult to work with, and the Sense Widgets have always been beautiful and easy to use. The only thing missing from the Galaxy Nexus(Galaxus) was a clock similar to the HTC clock widget, other than that, I was completely sold on the Galaxus. I love the screen, the NFC hardware seems like a convenient way to quickly share info. I don't see much of a reason to wait for an HTC phone on Verizon that will be on par with the Galaxus when the newest tech is going to be coming out from Samsung and Motorola again. HTC seems like too much of a "wait and see" type of company, and honestly... Sense doesn't seem to be worth the wait.
I guess we could always root and get a stock ICS ROM instead of settling for a Samsung...lol.
I guess we could always root and get a stock ICS ROM instead of settling for a Samsung...lol.
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TxGoat
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that is of course only a guess..... seems that getting sense 3.5 over ICS will take FOREVER on a phone that is already out...
Definitely, and not sure if you keep up with the Thunderbolt forum, but we had a Gingerbread update that just started a few weeks ago but was pulled because of stability issues. This setback plus the issues I've had with my Thunderbolt in general is really making me reconsider the Rezound at this point.