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[Yeahha]

You should be fine. Flash memory can get corrupted and damaged from being rewritten too much but it usually takes a while, I think SD cards are supposed to be good for 2 years, I would hope the phone is better than than. But I would also guess
several of us on here have wiped more than you (even with your triple wipes) in the last month

 

[Yeahha]

So:

3rd GB Leak(Combined CDMA/LTE) - Multiupload.com - upload your files to multiple file hosting sites!
MD5 - 956e3d5819d34148c95c4fa43e1bbb43

I should flash this one to have stable 3G and 4G LTE connection?

Yeah that is the radio I have been using and have no complaints, also if you flash that then decide to use the 4th leak you don't have to search for the LTE radio as only the CDMA radio was updated in the last leak.

 

[shaddyyy]

Yeah that is the radio I have been using and have no complaints, also if you flash that then decide to use the 4th leak you don't have to search for the LTE radio as only the CDMA radio was updated in the last leak.

Thank you very much, I appreciate the quick response!

 

[jackdubl]

You should be fine. Flash memory can get corrupted and damaged from being rewritten too much but it usually takes a while, I think SD cards are supposed to be good for 2 years, I would hope the phone is better than than. But I would also guess
several of us on here have wiped more than you (even with your triple wipes) in the last month

Hmm. This is giving me pause about the upcoming football season. I switched to Verizon initially for the NFL Mobile app. I need it to monitor all the games to ensure that I am defeating my old classmates in fantasy football. Will restoring backups twice on Sundays and sometimes on Thursdays for the next four months shorten my phone's memory life? I am diggin' this AOSP so much that I'd hate to be stuck on sense again, and right after I discovered the goodness.

 

[shaddyyy]

Yeah that is the radio I have been using and have no complaints, also if you flash that then decide to use the 4th leak you don't have to search for the LTE radio as only the CDMA radio was updated in the last leak.

Ok so i just flashed the new radio but unfortunately i still loose 3G reception randomly. The only way i can fix it is by telling the phone not to search for 4g lte signal. Any ideas whats wrong?

 

[Yeahha]

No you should be fine. I don't think you have to worry about wiping to flash or restore backups doing harm if you aren't wiping multiple times for each. I have literally done 8 wipes in 1 day before trying to test some stuff out so if I don't have issues you shouldn't either.

 

[Yeahha]

Ok so i just flashed the new radio but unfortunately i still loose 3G reception randomly. The only way i can fix it is by telling the phone not to search for 4g lte signal. Any ideas whats wrong?

Not sure sounds like an issue with the handoff from 3g to 4g do you live in a 4g area? You could also try flashing the 4th leaked cdma radio see if that helps you.

 

[WormDoes]

Hmm. This is giving me pause about the upcoming football season. I switched to Verizon initially for the NFL Mobile app. I need it to monitor all the games to ensure that I am defeating my old classmates in fantasy football. Will restoring backups twice on Sundays and sometimes on Thursdays for the next four months shorten my phone's memory life? I am diggin' this AOSP so much that I'd hate to be stuck on sense again, and right after I discovered the goodness.

You don't need to use the NFL mobile app to ensure you're winning at FF. There are plenty of other options. Including just using ESPN on your phones browser. I've been playing FF for almost a decade and, IMO, the NFL app is a POS. To each his own though

 

[jackdubl]

You don't need to use the NFL mobile app to ensure you're winning at FF. There are plenty of other options. Including just using ESPN on your phones browser. I've been playing FF for almost a decade and, IMO, the NFL app is a POS. To each his own though

I need the NFL redzone channel streaming while switching between televised games and watching updates on my laptop, man. I figured that would have been obvious. That's why I only need it Sundays, from noon to about six. Unless my wife won't let me watch the evening games, then I need it till about 9:30

I really need a mancave.

 

[shaddyyy]

Not sure sounds like an issue with the handoff from 3g to 4g do you live in a 4g area? You could also try flashing the 4th leaked cdma radio see if that helps you.

I just installed the 4th leak and still the same problem. I don't live in a 4G area at the moment, some parts of my county are though. I haven't had this problem before.

 

[Yeahha]

I really need a mancave.

I know the feeling, last year I streamed the superbowl on my D2G. At the time I didn't have a working TV and ustream/justin.tv both kept killing the feeds ended up watching it on a Mexican stream rebroadcasting CBS from San Diego.

 

[jackdubl]

I need the NFL redzone channel streaming while switching between televised games and watching updates on my laptop, man. I figured that would have been obvious. That's why I only need it Sundays, from noon to about six. Unless my wife won't let me watch the evening games, then I need it till about 9:30

I really need a mancave.

So, Yeahha, I shouldn't wipe anything if I'm just switching between sense and aosp backups? And I can do it and not feel I'm slowly strangling my phone.

 

[Yeahha]

I dont wipe when restoring a backup. If you want to be extra careful you can wipe (once) and restore. I do usually wipe cache and dalvik cache as those will be rebuilt upon boot and are usually different but I don't feel there is a need to wipe system or factory reset.

Here is something for you to look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory#Memory_wear it will give you an idea of what I was trying to say about cycle life. More than likely you will have a new phone before your flash memory is done for but it is something to keep in mind.

 

[jackdubl]

When I say triple wipe, I don't mean wiping three times. It was my short for data/cache/davlik. Is that what you thought I meant? And I can relate to watching a Mexican feed every now and then. I watched some feed in Dutch or something once. It was really funny because I thought they were speaking in English for the longest.

 

[scotty85]

on the other hand,i always do a full wipe when restoring backups. maybe not needed,but better safe than sorry.

you do only need to wipe once,however,its completely ludicrus that an electronic wipe will leave bits and particles behind,requiring a 2nd or 3rd wipe,like wiping crumbs off of a counter people that say to wipe 3 times or 5 times or whatever are wasting time.

 

[Yeahha]

Okay then just look at my last 20 posts in this thread where I thought you were wiping 3 times and you can void those out and yeah I also spent some time on a Canadian feed where I thought it was a US feed then the commercials were talking about pizza for $25 each and saying it was cheap, then they started advertising car models that look like US cars but the names were different...ahh Canada America's hat!

 

[brizey]

on the other hand,i always do a full wipe when restoring backups. maybe not needed,but better safe than sorry.

you do only need to wipe once,however,its completely ludicrus that an electronic wipe will leave bits and particles behind,requiring a 2nd or 3rd wipe,like wiping crumbs off of a counter people that say to wipe 3 times or 5 times or whatever are wasting time.

Yep. It makes you wonder. People that do the triple wipes, etc., scare me. People are getting so far away from understanding the base technology (solid state physics, linear programming, etc.) that in effect they are treating it like black magic. These types of things are effectively superstitions. They might as well throw salt over their shoulder and cross their fingers while they are at it.

And even if they do not understand that, why do they think a storage device can do BILLIONS of operations with essentially no errors, but not handle a delete (essentially what a soft format is) properly?

 

[jackdubl]

on the other hand,i always do a full wipe when restoring backups. maybe not needed,but better safe than sorry.

you do only need to wipe once,however,its completely ludicrus that an electronic wipe will leave bits and particles behind,requiring a 2nd or 3rd wipe,like wiping crumbs off of a counter people that say to wipe 3 times or 5 times or whatever are wasting time.

Yeah, I don't do successive wipes if I haven't flashed anything in between. But I usually wipe data/cache/davlik once, in that order, whenever I'm flashing a new rom or restoring a backup. Is that proper, or should I leave data out? And Yeahha, that wiki said about 100,000 erases before degradation starts. You think that's 100,000 wipes or is each wipe going in multiples towards the 100,000 limit. 'Cause I'm pretty sure I'll never hit that number.

 

[brizey]

Yeah, I don't do successive wipes if I haven't flashed anything in between. But I usually wipe data/cache/davlik once, in that order, whenever I'm flashing a new rom or restoring a backup. Is that proper? And Yeahha, that wiki said about 100,000 erases before degradation starts. You think that's 100,000 wipes or is each wipe going in multiples towards the 100,000 limit. 'Cause I'm pretty sure I'll never hit that number.

Did not read the wiki, but was that assuming mitigation? The storage devices have algorithms that try to prevent them from hitting the same locations over and over again--essentially spreading out the wear.

 

[Yeahha]

Yep. It makes you wonder. People that do the triple wipes, etc., scare me. People are getting so far away from understanding the base technology (solid state physics, linear programming, etc.) that in effect they are treating it like black magic. These types of things are effectively superstitions. They might as well throw salt over their shoulder and cross their fingers while they are at it.

And even if they do not understand that, why do they think a storage device can do BILLIONS of operations with essentially no errors, but not handle a delete (essentially what a soft format is) properly?

It is magic and stolen alien technology. Who knows maybe that third fourth fifth wipe could change that "1" that was missed with the other wipes into the "0"

Yeah, I don't do successive wipes if I haven't flashed anything in between. But I usually wipe data/cache/davlik once, in that order, whenever I'm flashing a new rom or restoring a backup. Is that proper, or should I leave data out? And Yeahha, that wiki said about 100,000 erases before degradation starts. You think that's 100,000 wipes or is each wipe going in multiples towards the 100,000 limit. 'Cause I'm pretty sure I'll never hit that number.

I can't say with any confidence what the limit is on phone memory. I would believe that when you flash a rom it would count as 2 cycles if you wipe and flash. The first being when you wipe (changing all the 1s to 0s) the second being acually adding the rom to the drive.

 

[brizey]

It is magic and stolen alien technology. Who knows maybe that third fourth fifth wipe could change that "1" that was missed with the other wipes into the "0"



I can't say with any confidence what the limit is on phone memory. I would believe that when you flash a rom it would count as 2 cycles if you wipe and flash. The first being when you wipe (changing all the 1s to 0s) the second being acually adding the rom to the drive.

Not sure if it does a hard format. It might just delete the file tables and replace with a default blank one. In that case for most of the registers only the write counts. And I think SSD is smart about erasing and does not "re-erase" a cell that is already a zero, and does not rewrite a cell that is already a one. In other words, I think there is a lot to it.

 

[Yeahha]

Not sure if it does a hard format. It might just delete the file tables and replace with a default blank one. In that case for most of the registers only the write counts. And I think SSD is smart about erasing and does not "re-erase" a cell that is already a zero, and does not rewrite a cell that is already a one. In other words, I think there is a lot to it.

I am not sure as well. I haven't done multiple wipes recently but from what I can remember it takes around the same amount of time to wipe with a rom as it does to wipe without one on there. I believe I read somewhere about wiping doing a hard reset but that was back with my OG droid and I am sure I couldn't find the thread now if I tried. I think it was something about clockwork mod where you have both wipe and format options, IIRC wipe was a soft reset while format was a hard reset but like I said it was a long time ago like a year

Add: I usually err to the side that when I do not have a complete understanding of something it will be the most destructive that it can be or I would rather be cautious and be ready for worst case situations than direct someone with the wrong info and feel bad about it later

 

[jackdubl]

I wouldn't say I am the biggest battery person here but I make sure my phone will last me from when I can charge it until it can be charged again I actually just use speedtweak 2 (extreme 1.4 ) then 8 (Interactive) 14 save. Open setCPU for set at boot. I've played around with profiles using both setCPU and tasker but I am not able to do anything with my phone most of the day so I usually have my phone in airplane mode while I am at work and use it when I go smoke so over 10 hours I only drop 15%-30%

So you leave the min at 245? I don't really know how to lower it in the terminal but I see the option is there in the cyanogen settings to go to 185 or something. What is the effect of going extreme over normal if I don't do anything else?

 

[Yeahha]

I leave it at 245, I have issues if I drop it to 185 with waking my phone, either with widget locker or SPB shell, maybe the combo but I like my phone being snappy.

 

[scotty85]

Yep. It makes you wonder. People that do the triple wipes, etc., scare me. People are getting so far away from understanding the base technology (solid state physics, linear programming, etc.) that in effect they are treating it like black magic. These types of things are effectively superstitions. They might as well throw salt over their shoulder and cross their fingers while they are at it.

And even if they do not understand that, why do they think a storage device can do BILLIONS of operations with essentially no errors, but not handle a delete (essentially what a soft format is) properly?

thank you kind sir- usually when i make that statement i get argued with

folks swear if they dont wipe 2153 times their rom wont boot,etc... makes me giggle.