Root fears?

[Thatdad]

the only thing stopping me from going full windows is the fact my Ubuntu won't install WIne always says I have a broken package.

Which Ubuntu are you running? Perhaps email them about it?

Oh and just FYI, I don't know if you've ever used wine, but its pretty much crap. Not of any fault to the Devs who work hard on it, its just not very stable.

I would assume it would be very difficult to make it perfect. What exactly are you trying to do with wine?

Scratch that. Get a Virtual Machine. That's what I did and it worked rather well.

 

[NafeesAhmed]

Hello everyone after reading this post i think i should go for rooting bcz i feel need of it as my phone have too low internal storge for apps , so after rooting i can have apps in external storage ,
But there is a little problem i cant find my device on this forum , its huawei ascend y300 help me out please

 

[Thatdad]

Hello everyone after reading this post i think i should go for rooting bcz i feel need of it as my phone have too low internal storge for apps , so after rooting i can have apps in external storage ,
But there is a little problem i cant find my device on this forum , its huawei ascend y300 help me out please

Start here: Ascend Y - All Things Root - Android Forums

 

[damewolf13]

I have never rooted my phones because I have never needed to.
All of my more recent phones (last several years) have had ample storage space and have run fairly smoothly with just a few minor tweaks.
I do remember years ago (before my knowledge that root existed) I had a Samsung Omnia that was a beautiful smartphone, but lacked any significant storage.
I was always trying to figure out what features I could live without just to add something else that I wanted.
If I had known how then, I would have rooted.

 

[Thatdad]

I have never rooted my phones because I have never needed to.
All of my more recent phones (last several years) have had ample storage space and have run fairly smoothly with just a few minor tweaks.
I do remember years ago (before my knowledge that root existed) I had a Samsung Omnia that was a beautiful smartphone, but lacked any significant storage.
I was always trying to figure out what features I could live without just to add something else that I wanted.
If I had known how then, I would have rooted.

I feel you.

I'm a little biased when it comes to Modding devices (especially since I came into this as a jailbreaker) I just love to mod and customize until its hardly the same phone I had in the first place. That's just how I am Lol.

I can't be having a phone everyone else has. From the words of the Prodigy "I'm to much of a rebel for me to try to fit in."

 

[funkylogik]

^ this

 

[Thatdad]

^ this

 

[DirtyDee]

I feel you.

I'm a little biased when it comes to Modding devices (especially since I came into this as a jailbreaker) I just love to mod and customize until its hardly the same phone I had in the first place. That's just how I am Lol.

I can't be having a phone everyone else has. From the words of the Prodigy "I'm to much of a rebel for me to try to fit in."

That is maybe the reason i want the moto X so much it will made for me

 

[funkylogik]

Heres the Moto X camera app mate if u wana try it :thumbup:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2382046

 

[Stannis the Mannis]

I used it right because I seen used like that (star wars knights of the old republic) of you can't tell writing in my only Langue isn't my strong suit, but speaking it is. I get quite a few "You talk like a white boy" statements from people

Haha that's what I instantly thought of when I saw your post, best RPG in the last decade IMHO.

 

[II MRKS II]

Hahah i like to test my skills i bricked ma phone on porpose with no nandroid to see if i could fix it altho im not rich or have an extra i took a the chance and ahaha now nothing can stop me or my phone my skills got way better lol i bricked my phone 4 times and lets just say that that phone is the one im using lol i got a record 2 hours to from basix to stock then odin then basix again then nandroid and restore all data lol i blame it on metro and their greedy lil bloatware lol secretly i love busting my own phone just for giggles lol

 

[II MRKS II]

I feel you.

I'm a little biased when it comes to Modding devices (especially since I came into this as a jailbreaker) I just love to mod and customize until its hardly the same phone I had in the first place. That's just how I am Lol.

I can't be having a phone everyone else has. From the words of the Prodigy "I'm to much of a rebel for me to try to fit in."

Been there done that all my friends want me to mod their phones what do i say gladly ^-^ i love modding phones cumputers idk it just comes to me im lol same with gaming ...i like to challenge the limits of the hardware then fix it

 

[Thatdad]

Been there done that all my friends want me to mod their phones what do i say gladly ^-^ i love modding phones cumputers idk it just comes to me im lol same with gaming ...i like to challenge the limits of the hardware then fix it

Lol I can totally relate. When I post pics or statuses about modding my phone I get bombarded with questions on how I do it. I direct them here of course!

Without this forum I would have had no idea how to root to be honest. I caught on really fast, but I have to give this forum all the credit on what I've done with my current device.

This is literally the best forum ever.

 

[Davdi]

I rooted my Wildfire S because of the tiny storage, now all my apps are Link2SD'd and I have around 75MB free most of the time. I've just got another Wildfire S and that's getting rooted real soon. My Xperia U is not rooted, but I'm running the B.1.100 rom (Latest official ICS from Three Germany) much snappier that the B.1.54 which is the current UK one.

 

[Stuntman]

Perhaps there are differing definitions of "trivial". To me, that description and amount of time is well within the limits of "trivial". I'd call it "non-trivial" when it's much more risky, when there's no good instructions, when it takes hours, when it requires a significant investment in tools, something like that.

My definition of trivial would be installing and configuring an app. The upper end of the complexity of being trivial would be installing an alternate launcher. You can do the entire process from your phone and the app can walk you through the steps. The same applies for installing an alternate keyboard. You have to go into the system settings to activate and select it, but the alternate keyboards I have used have instructions upon launch to walk you through the steps.

Once you have to venture outside of the ecosystem, then it becomes non-trivial. You have to use a PC to download some file and I think I had to unzip it. Not sure. Then you have to do some special boot up method in order to get the special menu to select things here and there. There is also no easy walk through. You have to find your own instructions and follow them.

Another comparison between trivial and non-trivial would be in ways you get music on your phone. Suppose you go to some online music source like Google Play Music or for me I use the Bell Music store. You select your songs in such a store and when you purchase them, the music appears on your phone. That would be trivial to me.

Now suppose you have some LP's that you want to be able to play on your phone. To get those songs on your phone, you have to hook up your PC to your amp, play the LP on your turntable and then run some program on your PC to record and digitise the songs. Then you have to manually break it into tracks. Once you do this, you copy them to your folder (eg., via USB connection). This would be non-trival to me even though I find it fairly straight forward.

I find that many people who discuss rooting their phones are fairly versed with the process and can do it very easily. As someone who has little experience with it, I don't find the process hard, but I do feel that it is non-trivial. It would also be something that most people would not know about or can do it without some effort researching it.

 

[funkylogik]

Yeah id say its non trivial because each phone is rooted by a different method. My heart is in my mouth when i root a phone still. Especially since im not great with computers.
Once its rooted though you can relax and everything becomes familiar again, no need for the computer again and you can make a backup image of the entire phone so if anything goes wrong from that point on, you can just restore the backup. People talk about "bricking" their phone but its usually really easy to rescue. I actually threw out my 1st android phone because i thought it was bricked but when i think back, it was probably saveable

 

[Seanette]

My major motive for rooting was to get rid of bloatware VM insisted I needed that I strongly disagreed with them about . Another factor was my then-desire to use Titanium Backup, which requires root (I've lost my fondness for that program with its apparent complete inability to deal with cloud storage at some point, and that was a major thing I needed!).

I was new to Android at the time (still don't think of myself as unusually capable with this OS) and very worried about ending up with a bricked phone my warranty wouldn't cover. Thanks to very well-done step-by-step directions in the Triumph root forum and very nice people answering questions that came up, it worked great.

I still very carefully read and follow the step-by-step when doing things like changing ROMs, just to be sure I won't mess something up, but that's me.

I strongly prefer the amount of system control I have on a rooted phone (a major gripe I have about iOS is how walled-off the user is from the system) and the range of options available with that level of access.

 

[Thatdad]

My major motive for rooting was to get rid of bloatware VM insisted I needed that I strongly disagreed with them about . Another factor was my then-desire to use Titanium Backup, which requires root (I've lost my fondness for that program with its apparent complete inability to deal with cloud storage at some point, and that was a major thing I needed!).

I was new to Android at the time (still don't think of myself as unusually capable with this OS) and very worried about ending up with a bricked phone my warranty wouldn't cover. Thanks to very well-done step-by-step directions in the Triumph root forum and very nice people answering questions that came up, it worked great.

I still very carefully read and follow the step-by-step when doing things like changing ROMs, just to be sure I won't mess something up, but that's me.

I strongly prefer the amount of system control I have on a rooted phone (a major gripe I have about iOS is how walled-off the user is from the system) and the range of options available with that level of access.

It seems that most peoples major motive is to rid themselves of bloatware. You'd think these companies would get a clue and stop putting them on the shelves with it huh?

As for that iOS comment.. I couldn't agree more. I'm not sure how much of the posts you read but earlier I had said I was an old jailbreaker. I had my iPhone 4 jailbroke through redsn0w with rockyracoon also. After I was done it wasn't even an iPhone Lol.

Embarrassed enough as I am to admit it.. I did wind up bootlooping it. After 2 years I might add!

The thing that grinds my gears about Apple is they are so arrogant. They actually had the nerve to say and I quote, "Jailbreaking will take away from the Apple iPhone experience)

Before I had it.. LAME! After jailbreaking? Sweet!

There are heavy risks to it.. like how I boot looped it from a boot image changer that some dumb kid probably coded horribly. I got it replaced but wound up selling it. Did I regret getting it in boot loop?

Yeah kinda. But did I have fun with the jailbreak? Oh heck yeah.

Apple is not a company, its a regime comparable to Stalin or Hitler.

Okay maybe I went a little over board but yeah.. Apple sucks!

 

[funkylogik]

I think all android phones should have root access just by say, entering a code, so people dont do it by mistake. Imagine a car with a locked bonnet (hood) that only the manufacturer can open unless you cut it open lol! :screwy:

 

[funkylogik]

Lol a guy on G+ bricked his s3 today. He wiped the whole phone in recovery then tried to boot it with nothing on it :banghead::banghead: i think thats a true brick now(?)

 

[divinebovine]

My definition of trivial would be installing and configuring an app. The upper end of the complexity of being trivial would be installing an alternate launcher. You can do the entire process from your phone and the app can walk you through the steps. The same applies for installing an alternate keyboard. You have to go into the system settings to activate and select it, but the alternate keyboards I have used have instructions upon launch to walk you through the steps.

Once you have to venture outside of the ecosystem, then it becomes non-trivial. You have to use a PC to download some file and I think I had to unzip it. Not sure. Then you have to do some special boot up method in order to get the special menu to select things here and there. There is also no easy walk through. You have to find your own instructions and follow them.

Another comparison between trivial and non-trivial would be in ways you get music on your phone. Suppose you go to some online music source like Google Play Music or for me I use the Bell Music store. You select your songs in such a store and when you purchase them, the music appears on your phone. That would be trivial to me.

Now suppose you have some LP's that you want to be able to play on your phone. To get those songs on your phone, you have to hook up your PC to your amp, play the LP on your turntable and then run some program on your PC to record and digitise the songs. Then you have to manually break it into tracks. Once you do this, you copy them to your folder (eg., via USB connection). This would be non-trival to me even though I find it fairly straight forward.

I find that many people who discuss rooting their phones are fairly versed with the process and can do it very easily. As someone who has little experience with it, I don't find the process hard, but I do feel that it is non-trivial. It would also be something that most people would not know about or can do it without some effort researching it.

Thank you. That was good insight into the way that less technically confident people feel about this sort of thing. It does seem familiar, reminding me of others' experiences around me with other technologies...I often do for me what would not be comfortable or acceptable for others and I think nothing of it as I do it, and over time I've learned to recognize that situation and avoid recommending it to others.

Apple is not a company, its a regime comparable to Stalin or Hitler.

Okay maybe I went a little over board but yeah.. Apple sucks!

It's as a much a religion as anything else.

I think all android phones should have root access just by say, entering a code, so people dont do it by mistake. Imagine a car with a locked bonnet (hood) that only the manufacturer can open unless you cut it open lol! :screwy:

Great analogy!

 

[Omar Days]

I rooted and put a custom rom on an old phone of mine just for the hell of it. Love it, but at the moment I would never do it on my main phone just because there are apps out there that i use which don't work on rooted phones

If it weren't for that then I'd root all my phones.

 

[funkylogik]

Which apps mate just out of interest? Dont think ive ever had an app that wouldnt work :thumbup:

 

[Thatdad]

I rooted and put a custom rom on an old phone of mine just for the hell of it. Love it, but at the moment I would never do it on my main phone just because there are apps out there that i use which don't work on rooted phones

If it weren't for that then I'd root all my phones.

I'm also curious to know what these apps are.

 

[zuben el genub]

My biggest fear is half-a**ed instructions. Seems like every Tom, Dick and Harry has rooting instructions on Youtube. Some of the people don't even have a coherent thought!

If everyone would bother to put out a well written wiki, there would be less confusion.