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Root fears?

Lol a guy on G+ bricked his s3 today. He wiped the whole phone in recovery then tried to boot it with nothing on it :banghead::banghead: i think thats a true brick now(?)
Can you truly brick a phone using recovery? As long as you can get into the bootloader I'd think it should be recoverable (though bear in mind that I'm not that familiar with Samsungs), and I've never met a recovery that would let me erase that partition.
 
I wouldnt advise anyone to use a video guide for something abstract like this. Far better to read and ask questions i think, having a strong online android community around you :thumbup:
 
Videos get old, methods change. But most times those videos don't come down

I've seen many more people post here saying they've followed a YouTube video that screwed up their device than I have heard success stories.

(Part of that is were a support forum, but the point stands ;) )
 
^^ yup.
Someone on youtube doesnt have the same kinda accountability if they brick someones device as they do on a big name forum site.
I must be pretty sad because i had an actual nightmare that my advice on here bricked someones pride n joy lol :D
 
Videos get old, methods change. But most times those videos don't come down
^this! :)

I've met people who've said "I don't want to read these instructions, can't I have a video?", but have never been able to understand this myself (tend to take the attitude that if you can't read some instructions it's better that you don't try this).

But it's the fact that videos don't get updated is the big problem. Have spent far too much time rescuing people who've followed out-of-date videos :(
 
Ultimately, what you choose to do with your device is your responsibility.

But I know what you're trying to say. Giving advice that ends up bricking someone else's device would be the pits.
 
My biggest fear is half-a**ed instructions. Seems like every Tom, Dick and Harry has rooting instructions on Youtube. Some of the people don't even have a coherent thought!

If everyone would bother to put out a well written wiki, there would be less confusion.

Thats why when I see them I post our url in the comments section. :)
 
^this! :)

I've met people who've said "I don't want to read these instructions, can't I have a video?", but have never been able to understand this myself (tend to take the attitude that if you can't read some instructions it's better that you don't try this).

But it's the fact that videos don't get updated is the big problem. Have spent far too much time rescuing people who've followed out-of-date videos :(

I hate the videos! I was trying to root originally on youtube (before I realized we had root guides on AF)

The videos left me freaking confused :banghead::banghead:. Lol

I finally was able to fully understand what was going on after going on the Everything root for Huawei and finding ShabbyPenguin's Premia Root guide. :D
:thumbup:
 
I hate howto videos in general...I'm stuck watching at their speed, which means I wait 8 minutes totally bored but unable to skip in case there's something important, then the 10 seconds I actually need flies by and I have to seek backwards a dozen times and wait for it to cache a dozen times before I feel like I've taken it in. Text and photos, I can scroll past at my own speed and study close-up where necessary.
 
I think videos can be good for like tear-down or repair vids though. Actually seeing it is like reading 1000s of words. And the good ones fast forward through the pointless bits :thumbup:
 
My biggest fear is half-a**ed instructions. Seems like every Tom, Dick and Harry has rooting instructions on Youtube. Some of the people don't even have a coherent thought!

If everyone would bother to put out a well written wiki, there would be less confusion.

I wouldnt advise anyone to use a video guide for something abstract like this. Far better to read and ask questions i think, having a strong online android community around you :thumbup:

I followed some online instructions when I rooted my SGS3. Video instructions are not very easy to follow because you are unlikely going to be able to do the steps at the pace of the video. Written instructions are better because you can go through the process at your own pace. I read the instructions a few time before hand just to understand the whole process and what not so obvious steps I need to do. For instance, I didn't know I had to use a PC for a number of steps, so I made sure I got all the hardware and information I need ready.

I also did some searching on the internet and these forums. Not all phones are the same and they vary from carrier to carrier. There was no universal rooting method that works for all phones of that model. This was another thing that I didn't realise before rooting my phone.

I think the total time effort I spent on rooting the phone is a couple of hours. I'm not sure if I fully understand the reason for all of the steps. I know that part of it is saving a backup image to allow for recovery if something goes wrong. I didn't need to do any back out as I followed the steps correctly. I did find that if I made some mistake such as selecting something wrong, I wouldn't know for sure exactly what I did wrong and recovering may not be so simple.

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On another note, writing instructions for people to follow is a skill. Some people can do it better than others. A person who knows how to do something well doesn't necessarily mean he is good at instructing others how to do it. It is important that instructions need to be simple and straight forward and someone who has not done the process need to be able to understand what to do.

The instructions I used included screen shots of what I should see on the PC or phone. At each step, I check the screen shot and compare it to my phone. That way, I know whether or not I did each step correctly. I was a little lost at one point of the rooting process, but I was able to get back on track.
 
I followed some online instructions when I rooted my SGS3. Video instructions are not very easy to follow because you are unlikely going to be able to do the steps at the pace of the video. Written instructions are better because you can go through the process at your own pace. I read the instructions a few time before hand just to understand the whole process and what not so obvious steps I need to do. For instance, I didn't know I had to use a PC for a number of steps, so I made sure I got all the hardware and information I need ready.

I also did some searching on the internet and these forums. Not all phones are the same and they vary from carrier to carrier. There was no universal rooting method that works for all phones of that model. This was another thing that I didn't realise before rooting my phone.

I think the total time effort I spent on rooting the phone is a couple of hours. I'm not sure if I fully understand the reason for all of the steps. I know that part of it is saving a backup image to allow for recovery if something goes wrong. I didn't need to do any back out as I followed the steps correctly. I did find that if I made some mistake such as selecting something wrong, I wouldn't know for sure exactly what I did wrong and recovering may not be so simple.

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On another note, writing instructions for people to follow is a skill. Some people can do it better than others. A person who knows how to do something well doesn't necessarily mean he is good at instructing others how to do it. It is important that instructions need to be simple and straight forward and someone who has not done the process need to be able to understand what to do.

The instructions I used included screen shots of what I should see on the PC or phone. At each step, I check the screen shot and compare it to my phone. That way, I know whether or not I did each step correctly. I was a little lost at one point of the rooting process, but I was able to get back on track.

All so very true.
 
I hate howto videos in general...I'm stuck watching at their speed, which means I wait 8 minutes totally bored...
QFT. :)

Especially when I already know 99% of what I'm doing, and am just trying to refresh my memory on a certain command line code or file name.

People have put out some amazing videos showing many different things, but if you're just looking for 1 bit of information buried in a 20 minute video its quite frustrating.
 
Which apps mate just out of interest? Dont think ive ever had an app that wouldnt work :thumbup:

Which apps mate just out of interest? Dont think ive ever had an app that wouldnt work :thumbup:

The Sky TV app, and Barclays Bank app don't work with root unfortunately.

I know I can sign in on the browser and view my bank account etc, but I prefer to use the app.
 
Yeah i suppose rooting does make a phone easier to be hacked so the bank one makes sense, and the Sky one a bit.
Amazon lets me be rooted though and it has a lot of my details
 
If my carrier, Straight Talk in this case, offered a service where I’d drop it off at nine and pick it up at five, rooted and rommed at my choosing, I’d to it tomorrow. They, of course, would also offer a free same-day replacement in case something goes wrong.

Meanwhile, I remain a virgin.
 
It would be my dream job tbh lol. Theres nothing like that where i live but there probably arent enough people wanting their phone modded to make a decent business plan out of it
 
It would be my dream job tbh lol. Theres nothing like that where i live but there probably arent enough people wanting their phone modded to make a decent business plan out of it

Well I live right near Dallas and Fort Worth so we have a really high population density, so the demand is really high.
 
It would be my dream job tbh lol. Theres nothing like that where i live but there probably arent enough people wanting their phone modded to make a decent business plan out of it

You know I got a friend who use to make $200 a week rooting androids as a hobby. He got his exposure through making a craigslist ad.

Maybe you could make one and have your profile URL or a LinkedIn profile to explain rooting, or explain in the ad itself. You could make money and do something you enjoy. :D

Is it prevalent in Europe?

Edit-- answered my own question

http://www.craigslist.org/about/sites#EU
 
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