nick325i
Android Enthusiast
Go into advanced settings and change it to the hero style widget, makes it more sense UI looking..
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Root Root + OverclockWidget = Insane Battery Life 40+ Hours
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Go into advanced settings and change it to the hero style widget, makes it more sense UI looking..
nick325i
Android Enthusiast
I use the program called "Battery Indicator"
freeza
Android Enthusiast
Thanks, that does look a bit better, but was wondering if a widget is really needed to achieve this. Kinda want it to be done behind the scenes, without any knowledge, ya know?
Are you on QWOT?
adseguy
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stroths
Well-Known Member
That's kind of personal
nick325i
Android Enthusiast
The method here only scales the processor down when the screen turns off.
The Overclock widget scales the processor automatically when the screen is on for usage. When you tell me you can see the widget showing 128 at the same time your running linpack and the screen is off. We'll have something to go on.
I don't have wi-fi off, or GPS off or removed my friendstream like all the other battery gimmick threads. This is working, not a placebo.
rockman1117
Member
CPU scaling can lead to sluggishness from the user POV, which then leads to a poor user experience. Not good for how Android is viewed. It is in their best interest to have it running at the speed that consumers purchased.
rockman1117
Member
Did you change the screen on freq to 128Mhz and then run the test? If you're relying on the "screen off freq" while the test is running, it isn't a good comparison.
nick325i
Android Enthusiast
The last three posters, excluding myself, are missing the point.
The CPU scaling is only relative when the screen is off.
No where did I mention you will get better battery while surfing the web or streaming youtube. This is strictly an idle battery savery because none of us have the screen on all the time.
The CPU scaling is only relative when the screen is off.
No where did I mention you will get better battery while surfing the web or streaming youtube. This is strictly an idle battery savery because none of us have the screen on all the time.
Yes, I agree, some folks missed this, but I caught it.
I get Google won't do this, but couldn't Google do this for phone sleep only like we are discussing here? I don't get why Google couldn't slow it down just for sleep mode.
ps. I still want to hear what folks say about linpack testing WHILE the phone is ASLEEP.
adseguy
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Google shouldn't because it's not up to them to scale the processor. The business model is simple, let the developers develop. Maybe I can see it as an option, but what if you want to crunch numbers or run a webserver or render a movie (crazy I know) on your phone. If the proc got scaled down this would hurt those apps in sleep. It's not a huge popular feature to scale the proc, so I don't see it implemented in the OS, but it's a great idea to have an app for it 
nick325i - hmmmm, well the options are pretty clear to me. It says it can scale when it's awake and asleep which is why i ran the test. A processor doesn't run at a lower mhz when it's idle then magically jumps up when needed. It's either running or not running. I'm not trying to poke fun here, but I don't think we are in agreement that it works. I guess if you could explain why the linpack test shouldn't work i would understand it, but as I see the program it's pretty clear that the CPU awake can be changed (it's just not changing IMO)
nick325i - hmmmm, well the options are pretty clear to me. It says it can scale when it's awake and asleep which is why i ran the test. A processor doesn't run at a lower mhz when it's idle then magically jumps up when needed. It's either running or not running. I'm not trying to poke fun here, but I don't think we are in agreement that it works. I guess if you could explain why the linpack test shouldn't work i would understand it, but as I see the program it's pretty clear that the CPU awake can be changed (it's just not changing IMO)
Krandor311
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Yes they do. Assuming the snapdragon operates like any other kind of processor you find nowadays it can very easily scale based on load.
I vehemently disagree. You say its up to the developer, well Google developed the OS, so they too are developers. Why did Intel develop SpeedStep and similar and get it integrated into their motherboard mfgrs BIOSs? If the OS is idling, there's no reason to waste electricity. I agree you don't want to interfere with the apps, so maybe Google hasn't found a way to do this (and not interfere with apps).
freeza
Android Enthusiast
This is true
adseguy
Well-Known Member
I have to agree, but isn't that BIOS based and not up the chain through the driver?
Either way, to get back on topic someone show me this is working. i guess I could run write some code to run linpack like a minute after it's asleep, buuuuuuuuuttt I'd rather not lol.
you are missing the point of the app....
It scales the cpu... to the condition of the phone...
when the phone is in standby.. it scales the phone down to it lowest cpu speed to safe power. If there is something that it needs to do.. update info or get data.. while in standby. It can speed up the CPU to the max setting (which you set).
when the phone is on.. it pushes the CPU up...
IF you have the phone on.. but are not doing anything.. but reading a long email or webpage... it can reduce the CPU a little to save power.
IF you run a speed test.. the app see that you are wanting full power... so it pushes it to the max the CPU can do (stock speed)... So the test with and without the app; should show the same result.
the app (overclock) does not really push the cpu speed past the stock speed. I think when we have full ROOT and a developer can really OVERClock it... then you might get real speed improvements.
freeza
Android Enthusiast
what do you mean? I'm on unrevoked and it's working fine
