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Root Running Out Of Space

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ianb11

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Wondering what my options are.

When I 1st rooted I had 100MB+ of free memory but this has slowly been whittled down to under 30MB as I've installed more apps.

I am running the latest version of Leedroid with A2SD. I have available space 3.19GB, 1.4MB on SD card & 29MB internal.

Apart from uninstalling a few what are my options?
 
Not sure if you remember my a2sd faq but yesterday I changed it to cover other methods of raising internal memory.

It's in the sticky at the top of this forum
 
Worth it though i have 223mb internal free after a tone of apps installed (Running Oxygen 2.1.4)
 
ianb11 said:
Sounds great but I'm just not confident enough to attempt something like that :(
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Did you read about it in the FAQ under the alpharev section?

All you need to do is


  1. S-OFF (easier than rooting)
  2. Set up fastboot (if you follow step by step, its very easy)
  3. Download the partition table that suits you best
  4. Use fastboot to flash it (a few words in command prompt covered in the fastboot FAQ)
 
SUroot said:
Did you read about it in the FAQ under the alpharev section?

All you need to do is


  1. S-OFF (easier than rooting)
  2. Set up fastboot (if you follow step by step, its very easy)
  3. Download the partition table that suits you best
  4. Use fastboot to flash it (a few words in command prompt covered in the fastboot FAQ)
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Yeah I read it but most of it seemed to go over my head if I'm honest :o

Guess it's the same as rooting & flashing ROM's etc it's just a case of reading up on it & taking your time.
 
As long as you can boot from a CD, and burn an iso image to a cd, that's probably simplest.

All methods (cd, usb, VM) all come down to the same thing: you run a stripped-down linux that runs the alpharev reflash tool. Connect your phone, confirm that you want to do it and that you don't want to change your recovery to their version (the one you have is fine), and let it do its stuff. But do read the detailed tutorial for whatever method you use (there's a "How to S-Off" thread in xda desire android development forum).

Do take a nandroid before doing it, because it sometimes messes up the ROM, in which case you need to restore. Don't be running a data2sd ROM or similar at the time. I personally took a nandroid of my ROM, wiped, loaded a very standard rooted stock 2.2, ran alpharev, then restored my nanadroid, but LeeDroid is straightforward enough that I'd guess it would be OK.

It's one of those things that's nerve-wracking at the time, but generally pretty painless in retrospect.
 
ianb11 said:
Wondering what my options are.

When I 1st rooted I had 100MB+ of free memory but this has slowly been whittled down to under 30MB as I've installed more apps.

I am running the latest version of Leedroid with A2SD. I have available space 3.19GB, 1.4MB on SD card & 29MB internal.

Apart from uninstalling a few what are my options?
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Have you moved the Dalvik cache to SD card?
 
Have you made an ext3 partition on your SD card? That is a2sd+, and moves also the Dalvik cache to SD card.


By the way, I see LeeDroid recommends using ROM Manager to partition the SD card with ext...:eek:
 
Usta said:
Have you made an ext3 partition on your SD card? That is a2sd+, and moves also the Dalvik cache to SD card.


By the way, I see LeeDroid recommends using ROM Manager to partition the SD card with ext...:eek:
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Yep done that when I rooted & flashed a ROM, I think :o
 
Usta said:
Can you post here what Quick System Info app reports about the storage (total/free, especially a2sd and internal storage info)?
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SD card storage Total 3.19GB Free 1.42GB
A2SD storage Total 457MB Free 197MB
Internal storage Total 148MB Free 39.70MB
System storage Total 250MB Free 24.41MB
System cache Total 40.00MB Free 20.08MB
Memory Total 405MB Free 131MB Idle 32.16MB
 
Looks like the ROM automatically has activated a2sd+ script by moving apps to SD card.
It is not clear yet if Dalvik is also moved.

One more thing: can you check if there are any apps on SD card (FAT32 partition)?
Settings - Applications - Manage Applications: go to SD Card tab and see if any of the apps is checked. If so, click on them and move the apps back to internal memory.
 
Usta said:
Looks like the ROM automatically has activated a2sd+ script by moving apps to SD card.
It is not clear yet if Dalvik is also moved.

One more thing: can you check if there are any apps on SD card (FAT32 partition)?
Settings - Applications - Manage Applications: go to SD Card tab and see if any of the apps is checked. If so, click on them and move the apps back to internal memory.
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They were all unticked, checked that.

Looks like it's S OFF or nothing.
 
ianb11 said:
Looks like it's S OFF or nothing.
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You may be right - if I look at your stats:

A2SD storage Total 457MB Free 197MB
Internal storage Total 148MB Free 39.70MB

it seems you are using 260 MB of the ext partition, plus 110 MB of internal storage. For comparison, I'm using 215MB of ext plus 70MB of internal (with my app caches recently cleared). So you are using a bit more internal relative to the ext than I am, but it's not hugely, wildly discrepant (especially since I don't have any social networking stuff). So if the standard stuff (cache cleaning, checking that your contacts storage hasn't gone mad and swallowed 30MB) doesn't improve things, it may well be just that you are approaching the limits of internal storage.

I'm going to give one bit of discrepant advice: some apps, such as flash player, aldiko 2, use more internal storage under a2sd+ than they do when moved "to sd" google style when using GingerBread. So although it's arguably messier to have your apps spread in 3 places (internal, sd-ext, sd) you may be able to save a few 10s of MB internally by moving a few selected apps "to SD".

If that doesn't help (i.e. if Lee's a2sd+ script is smart enough to already be matching GB itself) then repartitioning internal storage may be the best bet left. However, that brings up the question of whether you can gain much this way while keeping your current ROM? You only have 24MB free in /system, so couldn't use one of alpharev's tables to improve things, and even with a custom mtd you couldn't gain more than ~20MB by shrinking /system. So it would all depend on whether LeeDroid can handle a small /cache partition. Otherwise you might have to find another ROM to really benefit from this trick.
 
Hadron said:
You may be right - if I look at your stats:

A2SD storage Total 457MB Free 197MB
Internal storage Total 148MB Free 39.70MB

it seems you are using 260 MB of the ext partition, plus 110 MB of internal storage. For comparison, I'm using 215MB of ext plus 70MB of internal (with my app caches recently cleared). So you are using a bit more internal relative to the ext than I am, but it's not hugely, wildly discrepant (especially since I don't have any social networking stuff). So if the standard stuff (cache cleaning, checking that your contacts storage hasn't gone mad and swallowed 30MB) doesn't improve things, it may well be just that you are approaching the limits of internal storage.

I'm going to give one bit of discrepant advice: some apps, such as flash player, aldiko 2, use more internal storage under a2sd+ than they do when moved "to sd" google style when using GingerBread. So although it's arguably messier to have your apps spread in 3 places (internal, sd-ext, sd) you may be able to save a few 10s of MB internally by moving a few selected apps "to SD".

If that doesn't help (i.e. if Lee's a2sd+ script is smart enough to already be matching GB itself) then repartitioning internal storage may be the best bet left. However, that brings up the question of whether you can gain much this way while keeping your current ROM? You only have 24MB free in /system, so couldn't use one of alpharev's tables to improve things, and even with a custom mtd you couldn't gain more than ~20MB by shrinking /system. So it would all depend on whether LeeDroid can handle a small /cache partition. Otherwise you might have to find another ROM to really benefit from this trick.
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Some good advice there mate thanks.

I've noticed that for instance Angry Birds takes up a lot more room when you move it to the phone rather than keep it on on the SD & since I have all 3 games installed that takes a fair chunk.

I've also noticed that uninstalling updates to say Flash Player can save a few MB whilst still giving the same performance so that might be worth a look.

Ohter than that I think maybe you're right, I'm just simply approaching the max :(

Rastaman-FB said:
must have a lot of apps to be using that amount of a2sd space as well as internal
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According AppBrain I have 57 :confused:

Having said that as above I do have the 3 Angry Birds games which are over 20MB each.
 
57?? I have 125, including 4 Angry Birds apps (I still have the original beta on there) and am using significantly less space.

Using Quick System Info, select Applications -> All, then in preferences (near the bottom) get it to sort them by size (data size might be more useful than total size for this). That way you can see whether there are any that are using huge amounts of space.
 
I think only the apk files are sitting in ext partition. Dalvik cache is still in internal memory.
Moving this should free up some 60-70MB space.

I'm not sure how this is done with that Sense ROM, so check that specifically there.
 
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