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Root S-Off - Do I go Revolutionary or Alpharev

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Paul8944

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Hi

Having flashed various custom roms, I feel it is now time to s-off my desire.:)
however, the question is do I use alpharev and the USB key method or do I use revolutionary.

Having researched both, revolutionary seems far easier, however, a couple of queries remain.

as I already have root and a custom recovery (amon-ra). I assume I can just say no when revolutionary asked if i want to flash a custom recovery. :confused:

Can I still flash roms using my custom recovery or once s-off do i have to use fastboot.

The reason for wanting s-off is to change the h-boot table. and therefore would I be right in saying the best for redux 2 is the oxygen r2 alpharev table.

Thanks in advance.

Paul
 
Paul Anderson said:
Hi

Having flashed various custom roms, I feel it is now time to s-off my desire.:)
however, the question is do I use alpharev and the USB key method or do I use revolutionary.

Having researched both, revolutionary seems far easier, however, a couple of queries remain.

as I already have root and a custom recovery (amon-ra). I assume I can just say no when revolutionary asked if i want to flash a custom recovery. :confused:

Can I still flash roms using my custom recovery or once s-off do i have to use fastboot.

The reason for wanting s-off is to change the h-boot table. and therefore would I be right in saying the best for redux 2 is the oxygen r2 alpharev table.

Thanks in advance.

Paul
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you can select not to install recovery through revolutionary
you can still flash roms the same way as before (you have to really)
not sure, cant keep up with the tables these days but i would imagine so
 
Thanks for the reply rastaman.
Guess I'll go for the revolutionary method as it appears that bit simpler.
 
Must be a personnel perception thing.......or lack of experience and the stories I have read on XDA regarding issues etc . Thanks for your advice
 
My main reason is to change the size of the h-boot table there by creating more space for apps on internal memory instead of app 2 SD and moving the dalvik cache. Thereby more space for music. Photos and videos
 
Surely you put your music and photos on SD card. And if you can fill up a 32gb card then an extra 20mb isn't going to do much?!

Both s-off routes are easy in theory. Alpharev is just download ISO, burn to cd/usb, boot up, connect phone, follow the prompts. Revolutionary will ne load up, plug in phone and watch. However, if either don't go to plan, its confusing.

I am not s-off, Alpharev won't detect my phone as suitable. Haven't tried Revo yet.

Currently I don't really need s-off. A2SD+ has given me lots of room for apps.
 
Mattb81 said:
Surely you put your music and photos on SD card. And if you can fill up a 32gb card then an extra 20mb isn't going to do much?!
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Mattb81 I am a music junkie and use as mp3 player and it is force of habit to have as much as possible the whole time .......
 
Paul Anderson said:
Mattb81 I am a music junkie and use as mp3 player and it is force of habit to have as much as possible the whole time .......
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Amen brother

@ Matt. Its not 20MB difference though. Its a 1GB difference.

If you can fit all your apps on NAND, you no longer waste 1GB of space with an EXT partition.

With a2sd+, you dont use what you use. You use what the EXT is, even if the space within it is unused.

Even if it's 512...
 
SUroot said:
Amen brother

@ Matt. Its not 20MB difference though. Its a 1GB difference.

If you can fit all your apps on NAND, you no longer waste 1GB of space with an EXT partition.

With a2sd+, you dont use what you use. You use what the EXT is, even if the space within it is unused.

Even if it's 512...
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I see, fair enough.

I have an ipod touch 16gb which has my entire music collection and still has room, so I know i don't need the ext 1gb.

At the mo I only have an 8gb SD card on my desire and no music but my aim is to get a 32gb one and put all my music plus a2sd+ on.
 
DONE IT.........I'm now s-off ..... thanks for all your advice, guides etc
I used alphrarev and whilst it only took 5mins I was s*%&ting bricks but is was very simple at the end of the day i suppose it was just nerves from doing something new
Thanks again
 
@dan55 it was really quite simple ans the most scary bit was actually plugging the USB cable in and knowing it was the point of no return. I would even say it was easier than rooting with unrevoked.
I would recommend it completely. Currently I have all apps on my internal memory and shed load of space on the SD card for music etc........right result
 
so im looking at revolutionary. there doesnt seem to be much info on the guide page,
so im guessing you just plug the phone in and it prompts you for stuff ?

do i then need to flash a custom hboot, or does Rev. do this too?

cheers
dan
 
That is what put myth off revolutionary a bit. I went with alpharev, which was as easy as setting up a Linux pen drive with say unbuntu. You then just boot your PC to run the pen drive, have you phone swithched on running normally and plug it in and the PC will do the rest.
You do then need to flash the hboot using something like android flasher whilst the phone is in the fast boot screen
There us a guide on XDA which explains it really well. And give links to all the downloads you need.
But so does suroots signature
Hope this helps
Paul
 
hi Paul.
cool. many thanks. was that following RFB's guide?
that sounds fairly straight forward then.

another thing I'm confused about. fastboot. is that same as hboot or
recovery? or something different that I've not seen yet?

cheers
dan
 
The bootloader (hboot) is basically a boot menu. by default it will boot you into android. If you boot into hboot, you can then decide to boot into recovery or fastboot from there. Or you can boot directly into fastboot by holding back and power from off.

Have you read my adb and fastboot faq? Skipping the adb stuff of course...
 
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