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Saved Drowning Boy, Killed my Phone
- Thread starter Darin
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SeattleYanksFan
Android Expert
He's not getting him a new phone. He is only contributing $350 to the $600 Darin's wife spent on a new one.
I also don't buy for a second he can find a new Incredible on Craigslist for $350 right now. I'd like to see one legit ad that has an available Incredible in this guy's area for $350.
Kelmar
Done by choice
I'm not looking to argue....
The guy is contributing something, which we all will agree is better than nothing. Also, if the guy is able to get one for $350 then it's better than OP's current phone which doesn't have a working screen.
Phone > No phone
I agree, let him get it for you. If he can get it for $350, great. If he can't then he'll realize $350 is not enough.
SeattleYanksFan
Android Expert
I'm not looking to argue....
The guy is contributing something, which we all will agree is better than nothing. Also, if the guy is able to get one for $350 then it's better than OP's current phone which doesn't have a working screen.
Phone > No phone
I agree (about not looking to argue). But my point was simply I think Darin's post might have been misread by either me or you and some others.
Darin's getting a new phone no matter what. It does not sound like this guy is going to find Darin a new one for $350. He is only willing to contribute $350 to the $600 Darin's wife already spent because he "can get a new one for $350 on Craigslist." I am saying he can't. If he can, let him do so and Darin can cancel his order and/or return his when it arrives.
I just can't believe a father is cheaping out in a situation like this. It really is another sad example of a lack of morals and selfishness, in my opinion. But to each his own.
Callahan
Well-Known Member
Because you're a dad and the price of anything in your pockets means absolutely nothing at that point.
Good job.
Kelmar
Done by choice
Without trying to take this thread too off topic, where does the line get drawn though. I mean personally, I don't have $600 to my name. I don't have $350 to my name.
If I had a kid that was drowning and someone saved him, my wife and I would be eternally grateful, we really would. Still doesn't change our financial situation though.
On the similar note. If I was driving a 100k sportscar and crashed it to save the kid crossing the street, it wouldn't change the fact that the kid's parents wouldn't/don't have the money to do more.
Just a sad situation all the way around. I, for one, am glad that the OP did the right thing at least!
SeattleYanksFan
Android Expert
Without trying to take this thread too off topic, where does the line get drawn though. I mean personally, I don't have $600 to my name. I don't have $350 to my name.
If I had a kid that was drowning and someone saved him, my wife and I would be eternally grateful, we really would. Still doesn't change our financial situation though.
On the similar note. If I was driving a 100k sportscar and crashed it to save the kid crossing the street, it wouldn't change the fact that the kid's parents wouldn't/don't have the money to do more.
Just a sad situation all the way around. I, for one, am glad that the OP did the right thing at least!
I completely understand. And perhaps this guy doesn't have more than $350 to his name, and in that case, I would understand his situation as well. That said, based on the sequence of events, I am almost certain, without knowing this guy at all, that he has the extra $250. He was at first willing to pay the full price. Then he took back the offer because he thinks Darin is asking for too much (since allegedly it can be had for $350). Not because he needs that extra $250 to support his family.
In any event, this is indeed getting a bit off-topic and really is a moot point. The guy is only willing to pay what he's willing to pay. I just know if I were this guy (whoever he may be), I would find a way to get the guy who jumped in after my son a new phone at no cost to him. End of story.
Lol, its not like he had extra time to think about what's in his pockets. When you see a kid drowning, you go get the kid. Do first, think later, thats what happens in fast situations
Agreed. I'm a father of 2 yr old little girl.. If someone, like Darin, saved my girl I would do whatever it takes to make that $600 and get him a brand new cell phone.. $350..... ????!!!!!
Musky
Android Expert
Roze
Hiding behind a mystery
+++1
I'm late on this thread, but have you thought on taking up Verizon's offer of the $50 Eris? Get that and sell the phone if on ebay it's selling for $200+ then you have around $150 (maybe less due to fees) that you can use to subsidize your phone.
I was going to suggest you ask Verizon instead of the Eris, how much would it cost if you changed it to the Incredible. I'm thinking they'll give you a deal...but you just said your wife ordered the Incredible already...well I think you can call Verizon to see if this still works...I mean if you can pay less than the $600, it's better isn't it?
This might be a bit of prick...but you can ask the homeowner for the difference. I mean if the kid were to die in their property...they'd be facing a lot of issues...including being sued by the kid's parents for negligence...
Edit: that's a very kind and selfless thing you did...I'd feel devastated if my N1 got ruined because I saved someone's life...though I say this...I won't feel comfortable asking strangers for money...
SeattleYanksFan
Android Expert
Yeah, this just further demonstrate this guy's lack of class, character, and quite frankly, intellect. Get what you can from him, take any donations that come in, and call it a day. Your time and energy are worth more than the $150 or so that's left that you'll need to cover the cost. Plus, you just may find a buyer for your damaged Incredible on ebay or craigslist.
Roze
Hiding behind a mystery
WOW...WHAT AN ASS!!!
I would've be a bitch and said, 'oh maybe I shouldn't have been so reckless and jumped in and save your kid then'
What nerves some people have -_-;
I'll understand if he says, 'I'm financially in a tight position'...to justify paying for part of the cost of the phone
Very good point Kelmar... I'm just going to take the $350 and be happy that at least they are willing to give that much. Hopefully any balance from selling my semi-broke phone (remember, I'm selling it with full disclosure - I have to say that so I don't get flamed) will offset the remaining amount.
- Darin
I truly believe that now... I've never been in a situation like I was in on Saturday (other than my oldest son choking on on a piece of hard candy, that gave us a scare). It almost seemed as if the world around me changed or slowed down and my only focus was on the boy... and that was all within a split second. Weird. I wasn't thinking, trust me, if I was I would have removed my phone, lol.
- Darin
+++1
I was going to suggest you ask Verizon instead of the Eris, how much would it cost if you changed it to the Incredible. I'm thinking they'll give you a deal...but you just said your wife ordered the Incredible already...well I think you can call Verizon to see if this still works...I mean if you can pay less than the $600, it's better isn't it?
Yeah, I already went back and forth with Verizon on that argument... they won't do it because the phone is out of stock, that position is according to the rep.
The homeowner was confronted they said the Home Owner's deductible is $500 and they didn't want to go that route. They are probably worried about their premiums going up, which is understandable.
- Darin
Now is time for me to get flamed.
In a manner of speaking it was all 3 parties fault. When you have people over, you need to make sure that your pool is safe for all people allowed there. The kid's parents should take their share for not watching their kid. It is also Darin's fault. He made a choice to jump right in the water. He had his phone in his pocket. Those are facts. I was at a pool party last weekend and I took my phone out of my pocket right away because there were little kids in the pool. Even though a certified lifeguard was sitting next to me, I made sure this kind of thing wouldn't happen.
With that said, I would call the guy back. Tell him you ordered it from Verizon because you felt most comfortable buying it there. Tell him you would be happy with whatever they are willing to contribute and call it a day. If you speak of this situation to the homeowner and he offers to pay some, you can give him the same answer that you would take whatever he can offer and be happy.
Between the $350 and whatever donations you get here, you should be close to spending $200 or less for the new phone. Not great but not horrid either.
PS Despite what I said, had it been my kid you would be getting a check for $600 (or as much as I could scrape up with the rest as quickly as I could get it to you).
In a manner of speaking it was all 3 parties fault. When you have people over, you need to make sure that your pool is safe for all people allowed there. The kid's parents should take their share for not watching their kid. It is also Darin's fault. He made a choice to jump right in the water. He had his phone in his pocket. Those are facts. I was at a pool party last weekend and I took my phone out of my pocket right away because there were little kids in the pool. Even though a certified lifeguard was sitting next to me, I made sure this kind of thing wouldn't happen.
With that said, I would call the guy back. Tell him you ordered it from Verizon because you felt most comfortable buying it there. Tell him you would be happy with whatever they are willing to contribute and call it a day. If you speak of this situation to the homeowner and he offers to pay some, you can give him the same answer that you would take whatever he can offer and be happy.
Between the $350 and whatever donations you get here, you should be close to spending $200 or less for the new phone. Not great but not horrid either.
PS Despite what I said, had it been my kid you would be getting a check for $600 (or as much as I could scrape up with the rest as quickly as I could get it to you).
IOWA
Mr. Logic Pants
Maybe you should bring up that had the kid drown, or other damage(brain damage paraylisis etc) they would be on the fire for a lot more than $600....
I would have done the same as you op. I really hope it all works out.
But... if you are a scammer,(not saying you are, but these things happen often!) Well, it would only be suiting if you were drowning and someone saved you in the near future. And then you would have to replace their phone.
Tapatalk. Samsung Moment. Yep.
You did a good deed I say. Though I don't know you, and you haven't been on the forum very long (neither have I), I won't donate as you could be a scammer as well, others should think of that too before donating X amount. But none the less, saving a life is generally a good deed.
Personally, I'd be the type to call the father back and ask him if they can or cannot afford it(even a few payments over 2-3 months etc) to cover part or all of the cost of a new phone. If he is honest and says he can, but won't, then I'd take him to small claims court(judge Wapner/Judy-LOL) if they are close enough to me. Even if he doesn't pay after ordered, it leaves a stain on his record.
Now if he says he can't afford(may be lying/never know), I'd ask him to try and send a few bucks my way when he can, and maybe still stain his record after a year etc. Just before statute of limitations would run out. Now, if he's rolling on Dubs and can't pay. The Sick Puppies song "You're Going Down" comes to mind.
Personally, I'd be the type to call the father back and ask him if they can or cannot afford it(even a few payments over 2-3 months etc) to cover part or all of the cost of a new phone. If he is honest and says he can, but won't, then I'd take him to small claims court(judge Wapner/Judy-LOL) if they are close enough to me. Even if he doesn't pay after ordered, it leaves a stain on his record.
Now if he says he can't afford(may be lying/never know), I'd ask him to try and send a few bucks my way when he can, and maybe still stain his record after a year etc. Just before statute of limitations would run out. Now, if he's rolling on Dubs and can't pay. The Sick Puppies song "You're Going Down" comes to mind.
mrjerryk
Well-Known Member
Tell him you found one on ebay that he can get you. HTC Droid Incredible (Verizon Wireless) Brand New - eBay (item 220616568295 end time Jun-10-10 16:39:17 PDT)
Maybe your price will look a little better now.
Sweet, I've never heard of this.