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Saved Drowning Boy, Killed my Phone

SeattleYanksFan said:
First of all, it's disturbing to see a Mod "thank" this post.

Second, read Jamor's post. He sums up my thoughts quite nicely.

Third, your reading comprehension is awful. No one said he "deserves" a new phone. Simply that if people are willing to help out a guy who helped out someone else, then there is nothing wrong with that. Personally, I think the parents of the kid should help out, but if they refuse, there is nothing wrong with others voluntarily contributing their own money. Darin posted his paypal information reluctantly if you actually read the thread. If you were in his position and being urged to, you would also.

Fourth, under your line of thinking, the kid Darin jumped in after didn't "deserve" to get rescued. I mean, hell, he didn't do anything for Darin.
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My reading comprehension is just fine, thank you. I was the one who said that it appears that he thinks he deserves a new phone.

Noone was holding a gun to his head to post his paypal info. And no, I would never give my paypal account asking for donations, ever.

As far as your last statement... I never said anything about his rescuing the kid. If it happened as he says, than congrats on him.
 
ckochinsky125 said:
Darin said:
I never mentioned that I feel like I'm entitled to a new phone... I just feel like it's the right thing for the parents to do. If I truly felt like I was entitled to a new phone, I could just take the parents to small claims court. Drownings are a big deal in Arizona, and I can't imagine a judge would side with negligent parents. But I'm not going that route because that's not me.

Really you would try to take them to court because they werent able to keep an eye on their child 24/7? that is terrible to even consider that. You should have purchased insurance for the phone. You did a good deed but you can't expect parents to fork over that kind of money with the way the economy is these days.
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He said "IF" he felt entitled, he could take them to court. The "if" implies that is NOT how he feels. And he doesn't expect them to pay him in full. He just thinks they should replace it.
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daves123 said:
What happens if Darin ends up with more than $600 from all these people? Will he give money back? I doubt it. Darin, give all the money back and save up for a new phone yourself, (and buy insurance next time).
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Agreed. It's a great thing he did if it happened, but the people sending him money are the same people who fall for the Nigerian prince scam asking them for their bank account information.

Maybe I should start a thread about how I threw my phone across the room to stop a bullet from hitting a homeless child, but that it shattered in the process. Then all I will post up is a picture of my shattered phone. Heck maybe I can even make a fake second account and comment "hey everyone donate to this guy, he's nice!". I don't have to ever "ask for money" because me simply posting it in this manner is a cry for attention and money.

So no Darin does not specifically request money - but he does imply it with his subject and "woe is me" attitude. It's kind of like when you see a buddy post a Facebook status like "I had the worst day ever" - it invites you to ask what happened. Psychology is beautiful, but only if you understand when it's being used against you.

Like I said - if this happened that's awesome. Even so though, I'd be talking to the parents about a new phone instead of trolling the internet for one. What's the saying? A fool and his money are soon...
 
ckochinsky125 said:
Darin said:
I never mentioned that I feel like I'm entitled to a new phone... I just feel like it's the right thing for the parents to do. If I truly felt like I was entitled to a new phone, I could just take the parents to small claims court. Drownings are a big deal in Arizona, and I can't imagine a judge would side with negligent parents. But I'm not going that route because that's not me.

Really you would try to take them to court because they werent able to keep an eye on their child 24/7? that is terrible to even consider that. You should have purchased insurance for the phone. You did a good deed but you can't expect parents to fork over that kind of money with the way the economy is these days.
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Why don't you people go watch the news and donate to clean up the BP oil spill instead of some kid's phone?
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Darin said:
I'm not expecting any type of reward, I just wanted to be made whole by the parents.
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You're contradicting yourself here. Why do you feel you need to be 'made whole' by the parents? To punish them for not watching their kid close enough? Face it, you are expecting a reward, plain and simple.

And with regard to the paypal stuff... I really don't know what I'm going to do with what's been given ($53 so far). It doesn't feel right taking it, so I'm still 'out to lunch' on that one.
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Yes, you are out to lunch. Stop taking money. You did a good thing, but now is the time to just be humble and move on with life. Stop expecting things in return.
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This is a forum of friends ... and friends sympathize and empathize with each other. I don't feel that he posted in an effort to get a free phone, but to get a little sympathy, and maybe share his pain for his loss of his device with others who can commiserate because they too "love" their phone.

For those that think he's out of line, there's a back button at the top of the browser.

For those that can imagine themselves in his place, you can goto to Paypal and enter his gmail if you are so inclined ...
 
So what about every single person who pays for insurance on their phone? Where is the sympathy for him lacking forethought? So I guess everyone on these forums should cancel their insurance because we can start posts to get free money if we ever break or lose our phone. Wonderful!
 
danielevans83 said:
So what about every single person who pays for insurance on their phone? Where is the sympathy for him lacking forethought? So I guess everyone on these forums should cancel their insurance because we can start posts to get free money if we ever break or lose our phone. Wonderful!
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Lol..:p
 
Here is how I see it:

Does Darin deserve a new phone? No, he put it in his pocket, he jumped in the pool, he didnt buy insurance.

Should the parents pay for a new one? If I were a judge I wouldn't say they legally HAVE TO, but I think it is the least they could do.

Let me put it this way. If a person saved my kid's life, I'd want to buy him a new phone AND MORE even if it didn't get damaged in that act.
 
Nicks said:
Lol..:p
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Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to flame him, but frankly speaking who buys a phone that costs $500 retail and doesn't get insurance. Even Squaretrade insurance costs $40/year with the right discount/promotion. I applaud him saving the life of someone, I do not think he deserves a new phone from anyone though unless the parents of the child are feeling generous. For those who have donated, I applaud your support for such a heartfelt story but I think there are better causes in the world than "someone who broke their smartphone". If you really have 10-15 to spare donate it to clean up the BP oil spill or something worthwhile in the world.
 
danielevans83 said:
So what about every single person who pays for insurance on their phone? Where is the sympathy for him lacking forethought? So I guess everyone on these forums should cancel their insurance because we can start posts to get free money if we ever break or lose our phone. Wonderful!
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I actually do symphasize for him. It's too bad he didn't have insurance and if it were my phone in the pool, I'd be pissed.

But sometimes life sucks. Be proud that you saved the kid. Now go buy yourself a new incredible.
 
jasoraso said:
This is a forum of friends ... and friends sympathize and empathize with each other. I don't feel that he posted in an effort to get a free phone, but to get a little sympathy, and maybe share his pain for his loss of his device with others who can commiserate because they too "love" their phone
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That's the main issue I'm having with the OP...I'd understand if he was a member from 'the start' when he got his Incredible over 5 weeks ago. Then I can see him as an AF hommie and understand everyone sympathizing with him. Hell I'll chip in as well! The thing that got me is that he joined AndroidForums after over a month of him getting his phone and only after 'the incident'.

I would love to believe that he saved a kid's life and if that’s the truth, he’s an awesome human begin. The fact that he only joined to tell his story to us is great, we can all sympathize and empathize with him. If you look, all of his posts are in this one thread that he started.

Even though a few of the members ask him to set up a paypal account to donate, if he didn't want to, he didn't have to. Another thing about the argument, 'he only set up the paypal account because everyone asked him' is not that strong. When I read the OP's post, I knew right away that if he didn't suggest the donation, someone else would, it's inevitable with this kind of story.

I will say for those that are planning to donate, use common sense and think it through if you should donate. This is the internet and scammers use stories like this to get money from you.

Edit: I will say that we have some pretty darn nice members that donated.
 
This is for a worthy cause, I believe. I also believe it has nothing to do with the HTC Droid Incredible except for the fact that it is the phone in question. Therefore, I am moving it into the lounge with a permanent redirect. Please keep it friendly.

Steven out.
 
Steven58 said:
This is for a worthy cause, I believe. I also believe it has nothing to do with the HTC Droid Incredible except for the fact that it is the phone in question. Therefore, I am moving it into the lounge with a permanent redirect. Please keep it friendly.

Steven out.
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Steven,

We don't really know each other (at all), but sometimes it's just important to tell someone the truth without holding back. I know you told us to keep it friendly, but I think I love you. Thank you and take care.

Best Always,
TrailofTears
 
Darin said:
I'm pretty sure that it's required to have a data plan with the Incredible, so I don't think you can make it a "dumbphone". So I would end up having to pay for the data plan for my broken phone, as well as the data plan for the new line.

Am I missing something?


- Darin
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you move the incredible to your number, and either have the store put a broken phone or maybe an old verizon phone you have lying around onto the new number :D this drops the 29.99/mo



and to dave123 -
why are you so mad that people appreciate his deed and want to donate to him? If you disagree with their decision then don't donate! I must say it's his own fault for not having insurance (as many others have stated) and the parents absolutely SHOULD offer at least a little compensation for his broken phone, regardless of his decision to put insurance on it. But my point is, if you don't want to donate, don't. Don't come in here and hound people who felt generous enough to try and help a fellow member out. So what if you yourself wouldn't accept donations. That's you. This is him. From the sound of it, this would never happen to you because you would probably let the kid drown and tell the parents it's their own fault for not purchasing a child-leash! Live and let live my friend.....
 
tommy_ed said:
Don't come in here and hound people who felt generous enough to try and help a fellow member out.
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A "fellow member" who joined the site only to post this experience. Yeah some people just aren't this gullible, no need to get mad at the people who aren't donating.
 
tommy_ed said:
you move the incredible to your number, and either have the store put a broken phone or maybe an old verizon phone you have lying around onto the new number :D this drops the 29.99/mo



and to dave123 -
why are you so mad that people appreciate his deed and want to donate to him? If you disagree with their decision then don't donate! I must say it's his own fault for not having insurance (as many others have stated) and the parents absolutely SHOULD offer at least a little compensation for his broken phone, regardless of his decision to put insurance on it. But my point is, if you don't want to donate, don't. Don't come in here and hound people who felt generous enough to try and help a fellow member out. So what if you yourself wouldn't accept donations. That's you. This is him. From the sound of it, this would never happen to you because you would probably let the kid drown and tell the parents it's their own fault for not purchasing a child-leash! Live and let live my friend.....
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If you read my posts, I never said anything about the people who were giving him money, and certainly haven't 'hounded' anyone for doing so. It is their perogative to spend their money any way they wish. My comments were directed to the OP, who is TAKING their money.

Your post is insulting. I'd jump in the pool in a heartbeat to save the kid,(with my phone in my pocket also). I've congratulated him a couple times for doing so.
 
daves123 said:
If you read my posts, I never said anything about the people who were giving him money, and certainly haven't 'hounded' anyone for doing so. It is their perogative to spend their money any way they wish. My comments were directed to the OP, who is TAKING their money.

Your post is insulting. I'd jump in the pool in a heartbeat to save the kid,(with my phone in my pocket also). I've congratulated him a couple times for doing so.
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OP isn't "taking" anything. He is "receiving" it. There's a big difference in the meaning of the two words.

Look, just give it up. Clearly you disagree with Darin receiving money from others who, I will remind you once again, voluntarily donated to his cause. I don't care if he saved a kid, broke his phone while testing its durability, or stole it from someone and broke it in the process. If people are willing to donate money to him for a new phone, that's their decision. Get over it. The fact that Darin did in fact do a good deed and is being rewarded, and you're still mad about it, really makes one wonder why you care so much.
 
Roze said:
That's the main issue I'm having with the OP...I'd understand if he was a member from 'the start' when he got his Incredible over 5 weeks ago. Then I can see him as an AF hommie and understand everyone sympathizing with him. Hell I'll chip in as well! The thing that got me is that he joined AndroidForums after over a month of him getting his phone and only after 'the incident'.
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I've been to these forums several times prior to making this first post, you can track my home IP address as well as my Work IP address to see this. I've always just used to Search button to find what I need (i.e. "Incredible tips and tricks"). I never had a story or reason to post prior to this incident, though I'm sure I'll be a permanent resident now.

I've never been one just to post my questions on forums, just because most message boards will flame you and tell you to use the search button. Though I can see that the majority of the people on this board are quite friendly and that doesn't seem to be the case here.

My initial post was more or less just to let everyone know what happened, how much it sucked, and if anyone knew of a fix. That was the only question I asked in my initial post, if anyone had any ideas on how I should proceed (preferably with a fix).


- Darin
 
SeattleYanksFan said:
OP isn't "taking" anything. He is "receiving" it. There's a big difference in the meaning of the two words.

Look, just give it up. Clearly you disagree with Darin receiving money from others who, I will remind you once again, voluntarily donated to his cause. I don't care if he saved a kid, broke his phone while testing its durability, or stole it from someone and broke it in the process. If people are willing to donate money to him for a new phone, that's their decision. Get over it. The fact that Darin did in fact do a good deed and is being rewarded, and you're still mad about it, really makes one wonder why you care so much.
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Give me a break. You're talking symantics here. And again, I never said anything about the people who are 'donating' money to his 'cause.' I could care less. I think it's wrong of him to take the money, and to expect anyting in return for his actions.

Darin asked for opinions in a public forum, and I gave mine.
 
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