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Shooting in Aurora, CO

Thank you :-)

I was asking the question, away from the actual shooting incident, id certainly not give parents any grief, its not like they went there at that time knowing there would be a mad man!

Anyway, I have deepest sympathies for those lost, and those survived!
 
ElasticNinja said:
Apparently one of the victims is uninsured and faces a $2 million bill? Will his care be cut short or what?
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I believe his friend started a fund to help him. I imagine if that doesn't cover it, hell just get billed for life or something?

His wife had labor induced and hes there with a bullet to the face. That really sucks....
 
ElasticNinja said:
Apparently one of the victims is uninsured and faces a $2 million bill? Will his care be cut short or what?
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No. No one is denied life saving care because of being uninsured. Most likely the bills will be written off or paid for by a generous donor since it's good publicity. Worst case scenario he'll go bankrupt and pay nothing.
 
This site appears to be a place where you can donate to the man's medical bills. I'm not entirely sure it's legit at this point though it appears to be. I'm not going to tell people to donate there until I can confirm somewhere that it's 100% legit though.
 
Being British I forget you guys have to pay for medical treatment...(I know there are some free clinics)

As much as or Nhs isn't the best care system out there, I'm quite happy we have it, I couldn't imagine even having to think about money etc in a situation like that.
 
sntaylor said:
Being British I forget you guys have to pay for medical treatment...(I know there are some free clinics)

As much as or Nhs isn't the best care system out there, I'm quite happy we have it, I couldn't imagine even having to think about money etc in a situation like that.
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And who pays for your medical treatment? Docs don't spend 12 years in post-graduate school so they can work for free.
 
We have the Nhs, it is paid for out of our taxes, so paid for by anyone who works here. Like I said, it ain't perfect, but id rather we allow any and every one in our country (resident or not) to be given treatment required, regardless of the cost.

There are many debates to be had on the subject, I'm sure Obama was wanting to implement it as well? However, it is for a different forum/thread!

Hope the guy doesn't have any cost when he comes out, and I hope everyone involved is able to move on and forget about this tragic event!
 
sntaylor said:
We have the Nhs, it is paid for out of our taxes, so paid for by anyone who works here. Like I said, it ain't perfect, but id rather we allow any and every one in our country (resident or not) to be given treatment required, regardless of the cost.

There are many debates to be had on the subject, I'm sure Obama was wanting to implement it as well? However, it is for a different forum/thread!

Hope the guy doesn't have any cost when he comes out, and I hope everyone involved is able to move on and forget about this tragic event!
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It's a myth that people here are denied life saving treatment because they can't pay. If you come to the ER because you've been shot, you are going to be treated.
 
sntaylor said:
Being British I forget you guys have to pay for medical treatment...(I know there are some free clinics)

As much as or Nhs isn't the best care system out there, I'm quite happy we have it, I couldn't imagine even having to think about money etc in a situation like that.
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Actually, you do pay for it. You might not get a monthly bill, but one way or another, you are still paying for your care. Just like in this country, free health care will cost us all something. Mostly the top few percentile that pay taxes to cover the bottom 50% or so that pay no federal taxes.
 
Bob Maxey said:
Actually, you do pay for it. You might not get a monthly bill, but one way or another, you are still paying for your care. Just like in this country, free health care will cost us all something. Mostly the top few percentile that pay taxes to cover the bottom 50% or so that pay no federal taxes.
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Yes the top percentile that pay no taxes and steal from the rest that do pay taxes.
 
A.Nonymous said:
It's a myth that people here are denied life saving treatment because they can't pay. If you come to the ER because you've been shot, you are going to be treated.
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The problem here is the follow up treatments. I know of someone who had cancer but didn't have insurance or able to pay. They did have emergency surgery for the cancer by going to the ER, but after, they were told to start seeing a cancer specialist for follow up treatment. Since she didn't have insurance or was able to pay, she wasn't able to see the specialist. Sadly, she died before medicaid kicked in, months later.
 
A.Nonymous said:
It's a myth that people here are denied life saving treatment because they can't pay. If you come to the ER because you've been shot, you are going to be treated.
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You will be "stabilized", but still on the hook to pay.

As this is a highly publicized, fund raising will probably cover most of the bill. If it was not highly publicized, then covering bills would be more problematic.

Aurora Shooting Victims: No Medical Bills, Free Care, For Survivors At Some Colo. Hospitals (PHOTOS)

"Hospitals are required by federal law to stabilize patients during emergencies without regard to their ability to pay."
 
Hospitals are waiving fees for the shooting victims. Not unexpected. The hospital is going to foot the bill.
 
A.Nonymous said:
Hospitals are waiving fees for the shooting victims. Not unexpected. The hospital is going to foot the bill.
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That's mighty right of them, wonder what would have happened if there was no public scrutiny. Oh, the usual, out on the street, you know law of the jungle, where life is short and brutal, just like other members of the animal kingdom, who now live in preserves or zoos.
 
OutofDate1980 said:
That's mighty right of them, wonder what would have happened if there was no public scrutiny. Oh, the usual, out on the street, you know law of the jungle, where life is short and brutal, just like other members of the animal kingdom, who now live in preserves or zoos.
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Cynical much?
 
Bob Maxey said:
Actually, you do pay for it. You might not get a monthly bill, but one way or another, you are still paying for your care. Just like in this country, free health care will cost us all something. Mostly the top few percentile that pay taxes to cover the bottom 50% or so that pay no federal taxes.
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And like I said in my next part, we pay for it through our taxes, if we want, we can go private but obviously have to pay for it!

However, as I also said, this isn't really the place to be discussing the rights and wrongs towards public and private health care, I'm just glad the guy will get the treatment required and isn't going to be out of pocket because of it!
 
It's unpopular to say it, but if you're the breadwinner in the family and you have a kid on the way it's a bit irresponsible to not have health insurance. Flame away at me now.
 
A.Nonymous said:
Using the law to require people to do something they should be doing anyway doesn't "address the issue." But again, off topic. ...
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Sorta like making people wear clothes in public. How the victims will have the means to recover their lives is on topic.

If you think you are off topic, you may want to refrain from making a comment that you consider to be off topic, such as blaming the victims for not having insurance, as you know nothing about their circumstances.
 
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