Help Should I upgrade to 4.0.4 and can I roll back?

[simonwootton]

In the UK on Orange with an S2 running 4.0.3 and been offered the firmware upgrade through Kies, presume it's 4.0.4

Question - should I upgrade and if I get problems, can I roll back (and how) ??

Thanks in advance

 

[jaliy]

4.0.4 is full of fail
Do not upgrade

 

[Slug]

Question - should I upgrade

Unless another Orange UK user has a compelling argument against it, I'd say yes.

and if I get problems, can I roll back (and how) ??

Yes, by using Odin to flash the previous v4.0.3 firmware (provided it is available)

4.0.4 is full of fail
Do not upgrade

You're using an i9100 with Euro firmware on a Canadian network so your poor experience, while regrettable, is completely invalid in this instance.

 

[baylakedrive]

4.0.4 is full of fail
Do not upgrade

I have upgraded and all is good

 

[togger161]

I'm on 4.0.4 and have not had any real issues with it other than some widgets no longer working.

 

[geoffibs]

4.0.4 on Orange actually sorted out the issues that started when I upgraded to ICS

For me it is faster and battery life is better.

 

[jaliy]

You're using an i9100 with Euro firmware on a Canadian network so your poor experience, while regrettable, is completely invalid in this instance.

using euro firmware on a canadian network affects my default browser and email app i see. being on a canadian network was fine in 4.0.3 but not good in 4.0.4 is what u r saying?

 

[ironass]

using euro firmware on a canadian network affects my default browser and email app i see. being on a canadian network was fine in 4.0.3 but not good in 4.0.4 is what u r saying?

Were you not on Android 4.0.3 way back in April this year when you posted this...

i'm on fido canada network for the past 2 weeks or so i've been getting dropped calls with s2. does anyone else with different network drop calls?

 

[Slug]

What I'm saying is that

using euro firmware on a canadian network

in no way qualifies you to advise someone using a UK network about updating their firmware.

 

[jaliy]

What I'm saying is that



in no way qualifies you to advise someone using a UK network about updating their firmware.

As long as it's not signal related i don't see why not
It's the same phone with 4.0.4 as everyone else

 

[Slug]

It's the same phone with 4.0.4 as everyone else

The above merely illustrates how little you have understood in your time here.

It might be the same hardware-wise, but it's definitely not the same with respect to network infrastructure, firmware, modem/baseband, APNs etc. Long answer short.... your device has little in common with someone in the UK using a network-branded handset on Orange.

 

[jaliy]

The above merely illustrates how little you have understood in your time here.

It might be the same hardware-wise, but it's definitely not the same with respect to network infrastructure, firmware, modem/baseband, APNs etc. Long answer short.... your device has little in common with someone in the UK using a network-branded handset on Orange.

Yes it might have little in common from uk branded phones
But last time i checked this is s2 international forum, which is the unbranded version
I have the international version, this is where i belong whether u think so or not
It just happens most users here are from uk doesn't mean everything is based on uk handsets

 

[Slug]

I have the international version, this is where i belong whether u think so or not

I'm not disputing your right to contribute to this section Jaliy, merely asking you to pay attention to the subject matter of the topics.

It just happens most users here are from uk doesn't mean everything is based on uk handsets

When the person asking the question specifically states that he is on a UK network and is being offered an official update, it's pretty damn important that any advice is accurate. How can your experience of using a generic XEU handset on an unintended N American network possibly be of benefit to the OP?

 

[jaliy]

I'm only offering my opinion as an unbranded user, which this forum was supposed to support
If op wants my advice, he can read it
But that's another issue
The real problem is u seem to think being on Canadian carrier makes my opinions invalid. Without the sim card, all firmware updates behave the same. I don't think my homescreen would look much different than orange branded ui. Most of the stock apps are the same and will behave the same no matter what the carrier is

 

[Russell Ng]

From what I have read, the hardware is the same but the software isn't. Its why sometimes with upgrades, the modem seems to work better. I know during 2.3.6, I can get about 3 wifi signals from where I sit in my office. Under 4.0.3, I can detect 5 or 6.

Why would there be an improvement if the hardware remain the same? Because somehow or other, software also plays a role. Extending on that idea, different service providers might be using slightly different configuration. If that being the case, then a modem software that is optimized for that configuration would arguably be able to perform better even if the hardware is the same.

I believe that is the case, hence the many types of modem software used specifically for different phones on different networks. Also that's why read how some flashing can cause a drop in signal and some increased... Because the modem software flashed is either good for the network, or not.

That's my understanding from what I have read, and won't mind being corrected if I am wrong.

Cheers

 

[simonwootton]

I'm not disputing your right to contribute to this section Jaliy, merely asking you to pay attention to the subject matter of the topics.



When the person asking the question specifically states that he is on a UK network and is being offered an official update, it's pretty damn important that any advice is accurate. How can your experience of using a generic XEU handset on an unintended N American network possibly be of benefit to the OP?

Updated and no issues, handset seems faster generally and more responsive. Appreciate comments but have to agree with slug, it really is important to give specific advice wherever possible or make it clear that a comment is generalised. All replies appreciated. Forum rocks!

 

[Slug]

I'm only offering my opinion as an unbranded user, which this forum was supposed to support

Forum yes, this particular topic not so much. As the OP stated in his opening post

In the UK on Orange

Those two facts are pretty vital when discussing a firmware update.

The real problem is u seem to think being on Canadian carrier makes my opinions invalid. Without the sim card, all firmware updates behave the same.

For crying out loud.... the OP asked for opinions on whether to update his Orange-branded handset. You don't have an Orange-branded handset, nor are you using the Orange network in the UK. Therefore whatever experiences you've had are not applicable to the OP's situation. Why is this so difficult to understand? I'd say exactly the same to a UK user who gave you advice about an update via (for example) Bell Canada.

 

[geoffibs]

As long as it's not signal related i don't see why not
It's the same phone with 4.0.4 as everyone else

I agree with Slug completely on this one. The reason being is each provider re-writes the software to try to enhance the sets for their own system, including device drivers for the software to interact with the hardware.

This is the reason different providers release it on different dates as their coders need to program differently for their bespoke firmware.

Sometimes it appears as though the software doesn't relate to the hardware in any way whatsoever, yet they use some shared internal routines to save on bloating the firmware. All this needs to be taken into account and is why the providers supply their own firmware which will be very different to others.

Unbranded is a completely different story and I don't know why you are having difficulties, but to us with branded systems we must be quite specific with our experiences [having the exact system] as its not the same as yours in many different ways.