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Root Slightly overwhelmed with Rooting optioned

ok -- just installing Titanium now-- then gonna try install my first rom i reckon is DGB a good one to start with?!
 
erry said:
ok- so how do i go about installing this then?!

CyanogenMod 7.0.3 Light (HBOOT Bravo Oxygen) [11/05/11] - xda-developers


do i just need to flash the mod,or are there other things i ned to flash at the same time?

apps 2 sd etc.?
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First rule of rooting is to read the first couple of posts of the ROM thread at XDA to see what requirements the ROM may have. In this case, since it's an edit of CM 7.0.3, you should read the first few posts of the CM7 stable release thread as well.

CM is actually a little more complicated than most to install, because as a result of a legal tussle CM does not come with the google apps in the ROM. Instead you will find a link to a separate gapps install zip, which you need to flash after the ROM. Otherwise what happens is that you install the ROM then discover you don't have the android market!

By default CM7 also does not come with an a2sd script, but there are links to a couple of solutions. Probably the simplest is to install the ROM, then install an app called simple2ext (can be installed off the market). I'd do that before restoring the rest of your apps. If you want to use this, you should partition your card first.

To get the most benefit from CM7.0.3 light you should also flash the custom hboot it mentions, to increase your internal storage (possible because the ROM itself is much smaller than the stock ROM). But it's probably simpler to install the ROM first, then worry about that. As I said in a previous post, you should understand what you are doing before leaping into that.
 
ok- yeh that seems a little more complicated than i expected, is there an easier one to go with at first just to have a go ?



thanks very much by the way!!

actually first i'm going to uninstall 'stocks' and 'footprints' -- should i back them up first- even though i will never have a need for them?!
 
erry said:
ok -- just installing Titanium now-- then gonna try install my first rom i reckon is DGB a good one to start with?!
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As you can guess from my sig I think dGB is a good (indeed excellent) ROM. But it's very much stripped down to the minimum. It's really intended for people who know what they are doing and what they like - a small, clean, minimal ROM designed to take up as little space as possible, leaving the user to add whatever they need as user apps. It's designed to be used with a custom memory table, to maximise internal storage, and you won't get the full benefit without that (if you want a2sd+ you would have to add that yourself, but if you like it I'd recommend the custom hboot instead).

If you want to see what a really minimal, streamlined Gingerbread is like, give it a go. But if all you've seen is the stock Sense ROM it may come as a bit of a culture shock! But hey, take a nandroid backup first (which you should anyway!) and you can try out as many ROMs as you like, and see what suits you - you can always restore the nandroid and go back to where you were.
 
Hadron said:
As you can guess from my sig I think dGB is a good (indeed excellent) ROM. But it's very much stripped down to the minimum. It's really intended for people who know what they are doing and what they like - a small, clean, minimal ROM designed to take up as little space as possible, leaving the user to add whatever they need as user apps. It's designed to be used with a custom memory table, to maximise internal storage, and you won't get the full benefit without that (if you want a2sd+ you would have to add that yourself, but if you like it I'd recommend the custom hboot instead).

If you want to see what a really minimal, streamlined Gingerbread is like, give it a go. But if all you've seen is the stock Sense ROM it may come as a bit of a culture shock! But hey, take a nandroid backup first (which you should anyway!) and you can try out as many ROMs as you like, and see what suits you - you can always restore the nandroid and go back to where you were.
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ok thats sounds good-- except i don't really know much about custom memory tables bit or custom hboots etc. but i would be ok with a stripped down system adding my own launcher etc.

(i take it i just add the apps2sd by flashing it?!)


so do i just back it all up with titanium and the back up in recovery--- and then flash the DGB?
 
erry said:
ok- yeh that seems a little more complicated than i expected, is there an easier one to go with at first just to have a go ?



thanks very much by the way!!

actually first i'm going to uninstall 'stocks' and 'footprints' -- should i back them up first- even though i will never have a need for them?!
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If you are sure you won't need them, don't bother with a backup. But it's the work of seconds to back them up with Ti, and they won't take up much space.

GingerVillain is based on CyanogenMod but has stuff like google apps and a2sd script included in it, so is just a simple "wipe, flash, boot, restore" to get it going. Likewise Oxygen or Redux, which are smaller and simpler than GV (AOSP - Android Open Source Project - but not CyanogenMod based). dGB I've discussed above.

None of these have Sense - if you want that, LeeDroid is many people's first ROM. Well maintained, biggest problem is that it's superficially not so different from the stock ROM. Don't really know Sense ROMs very well, since it's almost a year since I stopped using Sense.

Or if you want something different, there's always Miui - a few threads on that around here.

Try browsing the "what ROMs are people using" thread to see what people's impressions and opinions are.
 
Jon_LTD said:
I will apologise in advance if this has been answered, however I cannot seem to see it being covered anywhere.

I have recently updated to the official 2.3.3 patch from HTC, and it's nothing bad, but it isn't a substitute for rooting.

I was curious, is there any method of rooting from the 2.3.3? I will also add, I am a COMPLETE noob when it comes to rooting, and I feel overhwelmed by it all, unsure what is really meant by RUU, ROM, Goldcard.. I can follow instructions et, however I would like to know exactly what I'm doing. Any pointers on this would be most appreciative.

Jon
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I have one tip for you.... Once you get as far as making a NANdroid backup, install a ROM, try it, install another ROM, try it, install another......
Try them all if you like, then just wipe and reinstall the one you like.

No point setting up your phone with all apps etc to then realise you want a diff ROM, trust me i know from experience LOL ;)
 
erry said:
ok thats sounds good-- except i don't really know much about custom memory tables bit or custom hboots etc. but i would be ok with a stripped down system adding my own launcher etc.

(i take it i just add the apps2sd by flashing it?!)


so do i just back it all up with titanium and the back up in recovery--- and then flash the DGB?
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Yes, if newly rooted I'd not expect you to know much about custom memory tables or hboots!

dGB has the default android "move to SD", of course, but if you want a2sd with an ext partition you'd need to add that. The DarkTremor a2sd is available as a flashable zip, and should work if you just flash that after the ROM. I expect that if you extracted the a2sd script from the Redux ROM zip (from /system/etc/init.d, with a name something like 10apps2sd) and copied it into that directory of dGB (either into the zip before flashing, or just copied there with the ROM running - as long as you are S-Off you can do that) and rebooted the phone that would also work. As I say, the point of this ROM is that you shouldn't need this, but it ought to work.

The procedure for flashing a custom hboot is described at alpharev.nl (or you can use Android Flasher if you use Windows), and the dGB thread includes links to a couple of these. It's actually not difficult to do, but it is something that I'd recommend reading/asking about before going ahead with - it involves changing a very critical part of the phone, and I don't feel people should jump into that type of thing by blindly following a recipe without knowing what they are doing.

If you are not out of space with the stock ROM then you'll be able to fit the apps with dGB even without a custom memory table or apps2sd script, so feel free to just give it a spin. But you need to do a little more to get the full benefit.
 
Night735 said:
Seriously thinking about trying this new dGB ROM!?
Convince me Hadron!

/makes a back up in prep!
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You want convincing? It's the fastest ROM I've ever used, damned good on the battery (by Desire standards - I've also added a custom kernel to improve this further), completely stable and "just works". And using a custom hboot I've 125 apps installed and 120MB free (larger apps moved to sd from the applications menu).

One gotcha - you'll need to back up your APNs or be ready to input those values by hand after flashing! It doesn't include the auto APN settings, so you'll have no mobile data if you don't do this. It's discussed in one of the other threads in this forum (most likely the dGB thread).
 
Been a few months since i changed ROMs, was happy with Cyanogen 7, but got the dreaded 'app failed to install, low mem' lol and 90% of apps are on SD

Quick way of backing up mobile data settings? although the 10min tedious task of manual input wouldnt put me off.

Noticed some lag lately when multitasking, thats why im thinking about this :)
My phone ran fast when on oxygen, but then i liked the mods of cyan.
I now know i can add all the mods i need though....
 
@erry: instructions look correct to me. But you can do it all in one session: enter recovery, wipe, install the 3 zips one after the other, then reboot. First boot with a new ROM is always slow, as it has to build the dalvik cache - don't worry if it takes 10 minutes, assume something's wrong if it takes 20.

@night: I installed an app called APN Manager to backup/restore these, which worked well enough - complained that not all APNs had been restored due to an error, but it had restored the APNs I needed.

dGB has fewer mods and tweaks than Oxygen, but I personally like it better. Just personal tastes though - I cannot think of anything that's wrong with Oxygen.
 
Thanks Hadron, im working in the morning so need a working phone.
I have backed up tho, and will be trying out dGB tomorrow!
Need to freshen up this old dog! Old tech now but its still my puppy yet lmao....
 
I'm not sure how to say Thanks via the forum, but Hadron, thanks very much for the advice...looks like I'm either going to brick my phone or get it updated...if the apps are installed in the system partition then I won't save any 'usable' space so perhaps I just need to find something that allows me to set them not to start at all...

Will root first and see what options I have.

Thanks.
 
Well I'm gonna have a blast later so I'm gonna

Back up using titanium
Back up in recovery
Wipe everything
Install those 3 things
Reboot
Hope for the best


Did i miss anything!?
 
i just installed 'myback up root' and backed up all the data and apps on that aswell

and also APN manager and backed up with that

is that overkill?
 
Hopefully it is overkill. But actually I use either MyBackup or SMS Backup+ for SMS and call logs - seems safer than restoring Contacts Storage data from Ti on a new ROM. I've never needed anything but Ti for apps though.
 
my back up is also backing up my photos- although i think they are on the SD card anyway

so after this i'm just going to flash those 3 things etc. right?!

.......ahh, it says it failed to back up all my photos- but they are on the SD card anyway and i'm gonna pull them onto my laptop just in case, and i think i'm good to go

so do my back up and sms back up + do the same thing?!- ie. no need to run both?!
 
They do it differently, but both do it.

MyBackup backs call logs and messages up to the SD card. SMS Backup+ backs them up to the cloud (actually your gmail account). I like that SMS backup will do it automatically, and you can actually read them on a computer via gmail if you want. But I still use MyBackup when changing ROMs simply because it restores them faster - but a couple of times I've forgotten or messed up and SMS Backup+ has come to the rescue.
 
Hadron said:
Well if you want to try oxygen I'd go for 2.2 rather than 2.0, but you'll probably have to visit the Oxygen forum for that.

Personally I prefer dGB, but ROM choices are personal.
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ok- gonna try dGB- i trust your judgement!!

aahhh, trying to copy the 3 zipped files into the phone ont he computer and i'm getting an error now 0x80070057 :the parameter is incorrect- gonna google it

.....damn it- no joy so far!
 
oh no- hang on

after redownloading the zips etc.

i'm up and running dgb!

set up process complete-- setting up home screens installing all back ups now- looks well slick!!
 
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