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Root System update

that would be too time consuming to have to uninstall bloats, one by one. then flash other kernels and other stuff, plus there's a risk of something goes wrong that way.

Why not just flash a new rom and experience something different than stock? Home isn't always the best place. Some likes to find new homes. :)
 
I multi-select all 40+ apps I remove, and automated removal takes 1 minute. Done. Rom Toolbox Pro, look into it, its worth the $$


EDIT: I just noticed, after flashing the firmware bits, I was just about to flash a new rom, opened TWRP 2.4.1.0 and my partition data has all changed, TWRP cannot find. Not a big deal as i just have to format em but im wondering why they would change that
 
remanifest said:
What we're trying to say here is that if you restore a nandroid backup, you will undo all of the (software) updates from the OTA, which is what you were interested in.

When is the last time you tried Titanium Backup or MyBackup Pro? I successfully restore my account settings all the time. There should be no issue restoring these settings when you are coming from stock>stock.
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This may have been asnwered already, but if you don't backup the data for the apps, you can't restore login info. Perhaps he was not using Titanium Backup to the fullest.
 
LakersDroid said:
that would be too time consuming to have to uninstall bloats, one by one. then flash other kernels and other stuff, plus there's a risk of something goes wrong that way.

Why not just flash a new rom and experience something different than stock? Home isn't always the best place. Some likes to find new homes. :)
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It literally takes 1 minute to delete bloat . use es file explorer. use multiselect. then click click click choose delete and done.
 
Cheers! But with stock rom, how can you get sound enhancements and expanded "quick settings"?

Also, from the "System Update" thread, there were some posts about flashing other kernels breaking wifi on the latest OTA.

The pure stock rom isn't designed to be customized and tinker with much, so I would think that keeping it would limit the owner's ability to make tweaks and changes to it even after rooting.

Changing system files, build.prop tweakings, etc. can only be done if you know what you're doing.
 
Prinny said:
What I'm MOST curious about...

Does this update fix the fabled alarm issue, where sometimes the alarm didn't go off?

I'd test it...but I don't want to be late tomorrow morning to work. ;)
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Amen to that. I hate the alarm bug. BTW, what are you using now for an alarm?
 
LakersDroid said:
that would be too time consuming to have to uninstall bloats, one by one. then flash other kernels and other stuff, plus there's a risk of something goes wrong that way.

Why not just flash a new rom and experience something different than stock? Home isn't always the best place. Some likes to find new homes. :)
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LakersDroid said:
Cheers! But with stock rom, how can you get sound enhancements and expanded "quick settings"?

Also, from the "System Update" thread, there were some posts about flashing other kernels breaking wifi on the latest OTA.

The pure stock rom isn't designed to be customized and tinker with much, so I would think that keeping it would limit the owner's ability to make tweaks and changes to it even after rooting.

Changing system files, build.prop tweakings, etc. can only be done if you know what you're doing.
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most custom Roms start from stock . and you can easily tweak the stock ROM.
 
LakersDroid said:
Cheers! But with stock rom, how can you get sound enhancements and expanded "quick settings"?

Also, from the "System Update" thread, there were some posts about flashing other kernels breaking wifi on the latest OTA.

The pure stock rom isn't designed to be customized and tinker with much, so I would think that keeping it would limit the owner's ability to make tweaks and changes to it even after rooting.

Changing system files, build.prop tweakings, etc. can only be done if you know what you're doing.
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Wanna know what got me into rooting? If you recall, way back in 2010, it was "gospel" that you had to delete batterystats.bin and charge/discharge your battery a few times to get it calibrated. I had bought an extended battery for my OG EVO, and decided that it would be easier to root and delete that file by hand than to do a factory reset. I even ended up paying for Root Explorer so I could drill down and delete that file.

Everything after that...well, it's a sickness :p
 
After reading through this whole thread, I'm still thinking about what I want to do. Radio improvements might be nice, as would be faster texting. Thing is, I don't want to set my phone up again, so don't want to flash any ROMs. Is this necessary to take the full update? If I want all of the changes, including firmware, radio, PRI, etc., can I just flash it all through bootloader? I could flash the ROM and then use TiBu, but I'd still have to set my screens up again and create all my folders. (I know, I'm lazy, but I have 100+ apps again already. Better than my previous 200+.)

I'm using stock right now and am ok with staying with it, so I want everything to stay the way it is, and just add all of the new and improved.

One thing I am wondering though is if if TiBu should be used after everything is updated, if one has to go through flashing the ROM and then restoring everything. Would restoring all of your old system settings overwrite something that was updated? Or, say, the improvement to the stock browser app, if you restored the old version?

I'm currently on stock ROM, rooted, S-off, 1.57 hboot, and I have the November OTA because I had flashed the original RUU, and then unlocked, rooted, and S-offed. So I just need this new one.

In short, I am wondering if I can just flash everything new from the OTA- the full OTA, not just parts of it- or must I flash this as a ROM and set everything up again?

nsciucco said:
awesome photography work ron scubadiver
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Agreed, I got distracted from trying to get through this thread, by browsing through your pics. :thumb:
 
Droidula said:
After reading through this whole thread, I'm still thinking about what I want to do. Radio improvements might be nice, as would be faster texting. Thing is, I don't want to set my phone up again, so don't want to flash any ROMs. Is this necessary to take the full update? If I want all of the changes, including firmware, radio, PRI, etc., can I just flash it all through bootloader? I could flash the ROM and then use TiBu, but I'd still have to set my screens up again and create all my folders. (I know, I'm lazy, but I have 100+ apps again already. Better than my previous 200+.)

I'm using stock right now and am ok with staying with it, so I want everything to stay the way it is, and just add all of the new and improved.

One thing I am wondering though is if if TiBu should be used after everything is updated, if one has to go through flashing the ROM and then restoring everything. Would restoring all of your old system settings overwrite something that was updated? Or, say, the improvement to the stock browser app, if you restored the old version?

I'm currently on stock ROM, rooted, S-off, 1.57 hboot, and I have the November OTA because I had flashed the original RUU, and then unlocked, rooted, and S-offed. So I just need this new one.

In short, I am wondering if I can just flash everything new from the OTA- the full OTA, not just parts of it- or must I flash this as a ROM and set everything up again?


Agreed, I got distracted from trying to get through this thread, by browsing through your pics. :thumb:
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Since you're on stock, you can just flash the update through the system menu on that ROM. You won't need to restore anything. Since you're S-OFF, if you don't like it you can always flash your old firmware back onto the phone.

The only thing you'd need to do is wipe the cache from recovery once the update is done.
 
Droidula said:
Agreed, I got distracted from trying to get through this thread, by browsing through your pics. :thumb:
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Also want to say I was distracted by ron scubadiver's pictures. Fantastic work -- very impressive; I think your goal of exploring humanity through your photography is coming along very nicely!
 
I can conform as well to the new OTA reception-wise. I'm getting better reception with 4g here around Tampa.
And a big thanks to ramjet73 for pulling the stuff out of the PG86IMG file to have us flash that are S-Off!
 
remanifest said:
Since you're on stock, you can just flash the update through the system menu on that ROM. You won't need to restore anything. Since you're S-OFF, if you don't like it you can always flash your old firmware back onto the phone.

The only thing you'd need to do is wipe the cache from recovery once the update is done.
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Just take the OTA through 'System updates'? Is it only if you're on another ROM then, that you're not supposed to take an OTA?
 
EazySteve said:
When you have the ringtone volume on even just a little does the Virgin Splash screen stay real loud during startup. Before the update it would play the splash to the volume I had set prior to restarting? This is bugging me because it's loud all the time when I restart unless I put the phone on silet or vibrate only before restarting.
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Well, after about 25 restarts it's finally going with the flow of ringtone volume set, instead of embarrassing loud. Very ******* weird but oh well
 
ramjet73 said:
I'm restoring a nandroid of the stock ROM now so I can download it.

I'll let you know. ;)
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Sorry, it took me longer than I thought it would because my original nandroids of the stock ROM wouldn't restore properly so I wound up flashing virus's stock rooted ROM to get the OTA update, then had to change bootloaders to get it to boot. ;)

Anyway, the Sprint version seems to be a little different in that it has fewer updated firmware files but the system updates look pretty much the same. I haven't actually played around with the updated stock ROM yet but did create this thread in the Evo 3D development forum on XDA which includes a download for the entire OTA and a firmware only file for Sprint users.

ramjet73
 
Here is my experience with the update.

I am running the stock and rooted ROM (S-ON) with MiRaGe kernel (obviously unlocked bootloader). After rooting, I had done the following changes.
- disabled some of the apps in /system/app and replaced some of the google apps with the newer versions.
- due to MiRaGe kernel, the modules were different.
- disabled the boot sound and animation by renaming the related files
- I had 4ext recovery as well.

After receiving the OTA notification, I have reverted back to original recovery in fastboot. But I did not relock the bootloader. After reverting to original recovery, I rebooted and let the update proceed. In the first try, the update failed complaining about the renamed and different apps in /system. To see the errors, press volume up and power when you see the red triangle in the recovery screen. So I have restored them to original versions and names using ES File Explorer. I had the backups. Anticipating the same problem with modules, I have restored the original kernel modules as well. But didn't flash original boot.img. After these, I have retried the OTA and it completed with success.

You can open the OTA zip file and check the patches (files with .p extension) to see if you have modified any of the corresponding files in your stock ROM. In short, if you restore them, OTA completes without any need to relock bootloader or RUU restore. Again, the stock recovery is required.

The OTA process disables root but does not remove either Superuser.apk or su binary. You can root again by flashing the superuser package to regain root. TWRP 2.4.4 has the ability to restore root if it detects the apk and binary. It will ask if you want to enable root permission again.

As for custom kernels, MiRaGe kernel runs completely fine without any change with the latest OTA if you flash with Flash Image GUI. Everything works the same ... just faster :) WiFi works even better due to updated drivers. One detail I have noticed is the WiFi MAC address was 001122334455. You can restore/change the WiFi MAC by editing /system/etc/calibration. Check the first line.

There is a new boot.img in the OTA. I have compared the kernel configs with the previous OTA (1.14). The only difference is that the kernel in the latest OTA comes without TZCOM option. I don't have it with MiRaGe kernel either. It wouldn't be a problem to have anyway, just an unnecessary kernel option to have.

Thank you for all the useful information here. I just wanted to contribute what I can.
 
mrg666 said:
After receiving the OTA notification, I have reverted back to original recovery in fastboot. But I did not relock the bootloader.
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Did you check your baseband level after the OTA was installed to make sure it was updated? I'm just curious as to whether or not the new firmware was successfully installed with the bootloader unlocked.

ramjet73
 
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ramjet73 said:
Did you check your baseband level after the OTA was installed to make sure it was updated? I'm just curious as to whether or not the new firmware was successfully installed with the bootloader unlocked.

ramjet73
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Yes, the baseband is updated too. It is now 1.09.00.0108. Phone booted 3 or 4 times during the update process. I think baseband, bootloader, recovery, boot.img were updated separately in each boot sequence.
 
Droidula said:
Just take the OTA through 'System updates'? Is it only if you're on another ROM then, that you're not supposed to take an OTA?
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That's correct... any stock-based ROM should be able to take the OTA, but for sure the straight stock can take the OTA without problems. You're in good shape if you want to give it a shot.
 
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