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mrawesome22
Android Enthusiast
I ran the ruu, ran 5 tests with speedtest.net app, installed updates, then ran 5 more tests.
I could post all the screenshots, but to make it simple, the new radio and PRI did nothing. Still slow, unpredictable, wild swings in speed.
Gonna uninstall all the bloat, install Anthrax, and run with this setup for a while though.
Oh and I turned off that connection optimizer thing after install. Now I can't find it again lol.
For a 55MB dload, you'd think they'd through in some new wallpapers or something.... I can't find shit.
I could post all the screenshots, but to make it simple, the new radio and PRI did nothing. Still slow, unpredictable, wild swings in speed.
Gonna uninstall all the bloat, install Anthrax, and run with this setup for a while though.
Oh and I turned off that connection optimizer thing after install. Now I can't find it again lol.
For a 55MB dload, you'd think they'd through in some new wallpapers or something.... I can't find shit.
Basic question:
Since this OTA includes the stock recovery according to a previous post, can I take it on a stock rooted phone? Will SuperSU remain installed?
Alternative question: is there any way to take the OTA for someone running a stock (rooted) ROM without the relock-RUU-OTA-unlock dance?
Thanks!
Since this OTA includes the stock recovery according to a previous post, can I take it on a stock rooted phone? Will SuperSU remain installed?
Alternative question: is there any way to take the OTA for someone running a stock (rooted) ROM without the relock-RUU-OTA-unlock dance?
Thanks!
ramjet73
Android Expert
Probably not if you are S-ON.
You could flash the stock recovery and the OTA might run, but the software updates are expecting a completely stock unrooted ROM with the November OTA updates installed so it's probably best to flash the RUU and get everything back to stock at one time.
If you are S-OFF there is no need to relock before running the RUU so the process is a lot simpler.
ramjet73
I srsly don't care about S-OFF so no harm there. Why would the OTA include the stock recovery of the stock recovery is required to install it? Or is it an *update* to the recovery?
mrawesome22
Android Enthusiast
Power off, hold vol -, touch power button, select fastboot, plug phone into computer, run ruu. After ruu completes and boots, go to settings, system updates, check now.
Re-lock is one command. I'm not sure that qualifies as "a lot" simpler
Beside the point though, I'm trying to avoid the RUU in the first place. I've been perfectly happy to run the stock ROM (EDIT: rooted with some bloat removed) because every other ROM out there has this bug:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36549309#post36549309
Maybe I should give the fully stock ROM a go...might be time for me to try.
ramjet73
Android Expert
If you are rooted or have custom recovery the OTA update will not complete in the normal manner (I tried it just for kicks).
You can RUU and relock/unlock and still stay s-off. No roms needed if you want to stay stock. Just RUU, install both updates (15mb and 55mb), unlock, install your choice of recovery via fastboot, install superuser via recovery or fastboot, then update superuser (it can be glitchy if you don't update it via the Play store).
Then you are back to rooted/unlocked/s-off with a completely updated stock rom.
Whole process took me about 20 minutes including getting my ~20 apps reinstalled, but I still had all my files ready to go from the last time I did it all.
You can RUU and relock/unlock and still stay s-off. No roms needed if you want to stay stock. Just RUU, install both updates (15mb and 55mb), unlock, install your choice of recovery via fastboot, install superuser via recovery or fastboot, then update superuser (it can be glitchy if you don't update it via the Play store).
Then you are back to rooted/unlocked/s-off with a completely updated stock rom.
Whole process took me about 20 minutes including getting my ~20 apps reinstalled, but I still had all my files ready to go from the last time I did it all.
xploPR
Android Expert
Ok thanks to all, the only reason im getting tempted to do the update, is because since december i cant place or receive any calls when im at home, when im at home and try to make a call, i get a message saying that my phone is not authorized to make calls, even with all signal bars and data working.
virgin mobile tried everything on there end, but no luck, they even sent me a replacement, but it did not solved the problem.
virgin mobile tried everything on there end, but no luck, they even sent me a replacement, but it did not solved the problem.
ramjet73
Android Expert
The relock command is simple enough, but then you need to unlock and root again after flashing the RUU and taking the OTA's. By comparison, S-OFF users just need to flash a custom recovery afterwards and restore or flash a rooted ROM to get back to where they were.Re-lock is one command. I'm not sure that qualifies as "a lot" simpler
Trust me, I've done it both ways and it's a lot simpler if you are S-OFF.
ramjet73
mrawesome22
Android Enthusiast
If you are s-off, there is no need to bother unlocking. Just install a jbear hboot and be done with it. I just dloaded the jbear 1.58.5858 and it works fine with the new firmware.
You remind me of a good point: every time I have taken an OTA, I have also switched ROMs so there's no reliable recovery procedure. I HATE starting from scratch.
But I'm still not sure I follow you. What about your wifi history? What about your accounts? Re-installing apps is not really an issue. Re-configuring everything (looking up email account settings, VPN info, network connection info, SwiftKey setup, reconfiguring 2-factor authentication, etc.) is what I hate. I'm probably missing something.
Rxpert83
Dr. Feelgood
Arent you using titanium backup?
That and googles own restore service should take care of most of that
Don't you lose half of what was in the OTA by doing this (basically any updated apps)? I don't understand how you can install/restore a ROM and not lose the OTA changes.
I'm not discounting your experiences, I think maybe you're overlooking the fact that I don't want to start from scratch.
ramjet73
Android Expert
You don't need to relock to flash the RUU if you are S-OFF and don't ever need to unlock after gaining S-OFF if you use a custom hboot like JBear or ENG. If you want to keep the stock hboot for some reason you will need to unlock to use the fastboot "flash" and "boot" commands.
ramjet73
mrawesome22
Android Enthusiast
Caution: Anthrax 3.6.4 breaks WiFi on this update.
I've used MyBackup Pro, may have tried Titanium Backup ages ago on a different device.
I've never *ever* had my accounts restored (I'm talking about the data in Settings | Accounts).
I've never had 2-factor authentication work consistently with a fresh install. Maybe I can be clearer:
I have to install Google Authenticator and add my phone as a new device (aka "I can no longer access my old device").
I often have to get new Application-specific passwords. This is a HUGE PITA.
remanifest
Android Expert
The non-firmware updates provided in the OTA are essentially software updates to the phone. The firmware controls the hardware, and the software lives on the hardware. Firmware is not touched by software; the software merely interacts with the firmware. If you're rooting the phone, the software updates mean little to you unless you want to incorporate those updates into your own builds (which is why the ROM developers are interested in them).
Sorry, I don't understand your reply. I'm running a rooted stock ROM (because of the aforementioned bug). How do I keep the OTA *software* updates without starting over from scratch (even partially)? Clarification: I presume software updates delivered via the OTA are not in the Play store (at least some of them).
It's possible I can't (short of building my own ROM; unlikely since I'm running stock
, it's just several replies seem to imply I can and I'm not sure how.
Rxpert83
Dr. Feelgood
Sorry, I don't understand your reply. I'm running a rooted stock ROM (because of the aforementioned bug). How do I keep the OTA *software* updates without starting over from scratch (even partially)? Clarification: I presume software updates delivered via the OTA are not in the Play store (at least some of them).
It's possible I can't (short of building my own ROM; unlikely since I'm running stock
Personally, id flash the updated stock rooted rom on top of your stock rooted rom.
Make a nandroid first. Only wipe cache and dalvik cache.
You wont lose data