While most of what you say is correct, you left out the T-Mobile branded Motorola Defy, which will work on AT&T's 850 band (at least) for 3G speeds...and on its lower priced "MediaNet" plan. Nice little "ruggedized" phone for $379 (full retail) IMHO.
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T-moblie Acquired By ATT...We're Screwed!
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While most of what you say is correct, you left out the T-Mobile branded Motorola Defy, which will work on AT&T's 850 band (at least) for 3G speeds...and on its lower priced "MediaNet" plan. Nice little "ruggedized" phone for $379 (full retail) IMHO.
LordBane00
Newbie
I hope this deal gets blocked.
As for at&t's edge network it dont work anymore AT&T turned off most if not all 2g phones last year its 3g or 4g with AT&T or nothing.
As for at&t's edge network it dont work anymore AT&T turned off most if not all 2g phones last year its 3g or 4g with AT&T or nothing.
It looks like T-Mobile is future proofing their new phones to run on AT&T – Android and Me
looks like tmobile is future proofing their phones for the buy out already
looks like tmobile is future proofing their phones for the buy out already
LordBane00
Newbie
Well vzw finished there merge with alltell in under a year so why not get the phones ready now for at&t cause it could be finished with the buyout before the end of the year.
I agree I think the 12 Months is just a number it will be done before
NowVoyager
Android Enthusiast
The difference with this merger is that it will create a monopoly of sorts. This one has major opposition. Sprint is already talking of trying to block it. Now, add the disgruntled people to the equation and this merger may not go smoothly as planned... thus, delay or possibly denial. It isn't written in stone. It wouldn't be the first time that a well-announced merger or takeover didn't happen:
CNN/CBS
Volvo/Renault
Lloyds Bank/Abbey National
Warner Music/EMI
GOOGLE-Facebook (2007) FB instead went with Microsoft for a 1.6 stake @ $240 million.
CNN/CBS
Volvo/Renault
Lloyds Bank/Abbey National
Warner Music/EMI
GOOGLE-Facebook (2007) FB instead went with Microsoft for a 1.6 stake @ $240 million.
There are many more big mergers that were allowed. Wells Fargo/ Wachovia , JP Morgan / chase , Comcast / NBC, fiat / Chrysler etc etc as long as the right divestments are made there is no way its getting rejected
Darkwarrior006
Well-Known Member
Yea and we all saw that bank merger went down....... a 700 billion dollar bailout was need to save the those banks. The goverment broke up ma bell for a reason, and they are letting it happen again. Whos knows, this merger could be super awesome, but as history has shown up monopolys never end up a good thing for the customers.
This is nowhere near ma bell or a monopoly. They don't and won't control the market in anyway shape or form. Also the bank mergers weren't the result of the bailout. They were the on the pages previously
NowVoyager
Android Enthusiast
There is good reason for concern over this would-be fiasco. The customers are definitely the losers here and many people are unhappy about the potential merger. But don't take my word for it, read the complaints already logged by customers
https://www.facebook.com/TMobile/posts/138412652894676
And Sprint is taking their concerns to Congress. One such concern:
"When one competitor has that much buying power they can determine the fate of different products," Fared Adib, a Sprint executive in charge of handsets, said, according to Reuters.
My personal concern is that they will do as they have always done: GOUGE, GOUGE, GOUGE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQnSEA8vsR4
https://www.facebook.com/TMobile/posts/138412652894676
And Sprint is taking their concerns to Congress. One such concern:
"When one competitor has that much buying power they can determine the fate of different products," Fared Adib, a Sprint executive in charge of handsets, said, according to Reuters.
My personal concern is that they will do as they have always done: GOUGE, GOUGE, GOUGE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQnSEA8vsR4
All those concerns are unfounded till they actually happen so that is just speculation. Peoples fears are just that fear perpetrated by the unknown. Sprint fears are also bs
NowVoyager
Android Enthusiast
Bull! Their business practices are legendary. I have no fear. I have first-hand knowledge of their gouging. So you can peddle your fanboyism to someone who is foolish enough to buy your act. I'm not that person.
I join in with those who are petitioning Congress to stop it. Amen.
I have been with ATT since cellular one and your assessment is BS. Good luck with you petition your petitioning the wrong people lol
NowVoyager
Android Enthusiast
I was with them just as long and got out when I'd had enough of being gouged. I read bills WELL. They were CONSTANTLY padded with overcharges and services that I never had with them. What you are calling BS is called MATH. Your position is asinine foolishness trying to bait this list with unsubstantiated cheer-leading when simple math bears out what I said.
And regarding this being good for consumers... I'm sorry but the additional $53 per month that I would have to pay to have a comparable plan with them like I have on Tmo is not worth any amount of so-called spectrum gain. I have done the math.
$70 per month for unlimited everything with Tmo
VS
$122.97 per month with ATT for the same plan.
Math is obviously not your strong suit if you think that this is better. I agree with an earlier poster who implied that your position is suspect and insincere. Good luck to you in your life in fairyland. LOL
Why are you so disrespectful. I have not been disrespectful at all to either of you. Just because you dislike my stance there is no need to act as you are or insinuate about my motives.
NowVoyager
Android Enthusiast
Your position is your own. What you choose to do with your money is your business. But you're here obviously on a mission to convince others that we are wrong. You cannot successfully challenge my phone bills, nor can you successfully challenge that ATT rates are substantially higher than Tmo. So now you whine about disrespect. LOL - Nice deflection but it was seen. I guess you forgot that you called my assessment BS...but, I digress
The topic is the merger, not personal martyrdom. There are others who share your opinion and have said so. I countered your opinion with facts: The current billing plan for ATT and the mention of my own bills through the years with them. Bottom line. The consumer is in for substantially higher bills with them according to their own listed plans.
I am absolutely certain that my historical dealings with that company were horrible which is why I left them, never to return. Now, when you challenge the opinions and integrity of others, be prepared for their comeback. As you said earlier...no offense.
That's all well and good but you didn't need to be disrespectful. If you can't afford a higher bill there are options afforded to you in other carriers. I never challenged anyone's integrity only opinion. To me it seems as long as people agree on this site its all nice and friendly. The minute someone has a differing opinion they get made fun of talked down berated. You say I'm trying to change your mind yet you seem to minimize my opinion or experience. Just because we have had divergent experiences doesn't make either of ours less valid. This is America where one is free to express those opinions without persecution and you my friend are not allowing that.
LordBane00
Newbie
Yeah that's the problem it's America most of us can't afford a higher bill with this economy. What we need is lower bills and better service that's why I went to sprint I have 2 phones on my account and it's still lower than my at&t bill was for just one phone. The only people this buyout benefits is at&t customers t-mobile customers lose big time.
Once again if the situation arises that a tmobile customer finds he can not afford his bill there are options like you chose. There is Sprint and metro pcs ,simple mobile, smart talk
( Walmart ) etc etc so.if those customers feel that way there are choices. Others will he willing to may more for better signal. I mean a pure business stand point you can't always be the cheapest and give away the far and expect to be a success. Even Sprint has added the 10 for 4G fee because its not feasible. There are many financial articles that have stated for years tmobile was either gonna be assumed or out of business those were the options. So it was either have no more service for tmobile people soon or have your service assumed by AT&T. Now that it has been assumed you can wait and see and then choose to stay or go there are options
NowVoyager
Android Enthusiast
We're not here to assuage your personal persecution complex. Nor are we here to cowtow to your have-lots insinuations. I never said that I could not afford to pay more, I said that I refuse to pay more. Warren Buffet has a similar philosophy. So again, your assumption is, shall we say... errant?
You seem to have a memory lapse about calling my assumptions BS, which is convenient. But in your effort to get us off topic and turn this into some kind of personal rant of yours, you are again thwarted. No one is disallowing you to speak. Some of us simply disagree that an ATT merger is a good deal for consumers. Again, The topic is MERGER, my friend.
The topic is buyout my friend not merger. You want to discuss that leave your immature remarks and Insults somewhere else and this discussion can go forward.
Back to the buyout. It is an inevitability so I prefer to look at the positives. I have also read and been told that the prices may even be lowered because of the massive amounts of R & D saved by this purchase. Do I know that as fact no. Will I hope that the positives outweigh the negatives yes. I try to be optimistic always but the majority like to be fear mongers and negative