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T-moblie Acquired By ATT...We're Screwed!

AndreaCristiano said:
Really? Phandroid has had many articles up which were incorrect and had to be edited. Also if I want an opinion on things of.this nature I go to actual sources WSJ , bloomberg, engadget , are technica etc etc.
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And whom do you think writes those...God??? It's ALL opinion based upon their available facts, which change. The issue here is that ATT sucks and on THAT point, many of us agree. As I said, I didn't hear about their business practices, I lived them.

And PLEASE don't tell me that none of your above listed sources ever printed a retraction. smh
 
NowVoyager said:
And whom do you think writes those...God??? It's ALL opinion based upon their available facts, which change. The issue here is that ATT sucks and on THAT point, many of us agree. As I said, I didn't hear about their business practices, I lived them.

And PLEASE don't tell me that none of your above listed sources ever printed a retraction. smh
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Never said that
 
LordBane00 said:
All t-mobile 3g phones will be rendered obsolete proof right here.
T-Mobile 3G Handsets to Be Rendered Obsolete by AT&T Merger | Android Phone Fans
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So, this could force people into a new contract when they must get the new phone under ATT? That would absolutely be an exit cue. I knew that there had to be something that would force the hands of the Tmo group all the way over the threshold. It doesn't apply to those of us who have 4G phones, I take it.

According to the timeline (2 years?) Those who are currently under contract will be free by the time this is expected to commence.
 
Sometimes it's not the rates. It's the freedom of the phone. I could bring any unlocked Euro phone on TM, and use it. Speed didn't matter as long as I could use my own wifi at no charge. This, and the freedom of rooting an UNLOCKED phone, the ability to use my OWN wifi at no charge is what I would be complaining about. Also get apps where I please. I prefer unlocked phones to get rid of most of the carriers' crap. I'm not sure about the Galaxy S 4G, but I do have a Galaxy 3 that will use ATT bands.
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zuben el genub said:
Sometimes it's not the rates. It's the freedom of the phone. I could bring any unlocked Euro phone on TM, and use it. Speed didn't matter as long as I could use my own wifi at no charge. This, and the freedom of rooting an UNLOCKED phone, the ability to use my OWN wifi at no charge is what I would be complaining about. Also get apps where I please. I prefer unlocked phones to get rid of most of the carriers' crap. I'm not sure about the Galaxy S 4G, but I do have a Galaxy 3 that will use ATT bands.
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Once everything goes through tmobile bands will work on the new phones so essentially a euro phone could work depending on the scenario
 
joe71 said:
I can not believe this!!! T-mobile costumers are about to have it stuck them! AT&T is the worst cell phone compnay on the planet, I had them for about a year and dropped them, because of the lousy coverage. I have had T-mobile for nearly three years and no complaints :)

I know the article said this merger if it does happen would take a year or longer. I am praying that it does not go through. first it will mean T-mobile costumers get screwed over with lousy coverage and low quality costumer service:mad: second it will mean alot of T-mobile employees ending up on unemployment.

If this merger does through I will be looking Boost Mobile, VirginMobile, Tracfhone, even StraightTalk
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I had t-mobile from 2004 - 2009. during that time, the quality of coverage drastically dropped here in Oklahoma. Verizon Did not come to OKC till they merged with AlTel (( AlTel was the worst here at the time)). UScellular coverage is better then Spint. AT&T cover almost all of the state. Boost and virgin are both part of sprint..so crap in my area.

If you are worried about about your coverage going from T-mobile to ATT in your area, their should not be a change. You would be using the same towers that you have with t-mobile now. AT&T problem, as far as coverage goes, is the fact that it has more users per tower them the others, not to mention more Smartphone users then the other. Yes VZN is has more users (( the altel merger gave the that boost))

Pros - better coverage, more bandwith (( currently T-mobile has about 2/3rds the coverage of ATT))

Cons - Cost increase for those coming from T-mobile. (( sprint will the the only one left with unlimited DATA since VZN is doing away with theirs.
))
 
wow is all i have to say after reading all of this.

@ AndreaCristiano
Opinions are all fine and dandy but when you just try to shove your own down everyone else's throat in such a matter of fact tone not only do you look like a naggy AT&T fanboy/girl but you come off totally annoying and so not credible with what you say.

That and you have a watered down EVO copy.

@everyone else on this post

I work for T-Mo and we were struggling to make numbers. These past 4 months T-Mo has been employing new tactics to gain more customers and so far the project WAS working. We were growing again, albeit not in leaps & bounds but in this sort of economy it was an awesome change! But Grandaddy Deutsch Telekom wanted nothing of it.

Here in Puerto Rico AT&T just recently did a hostile takeover on a local cellphone company called Centennial. It wasn't all peaches and cream. AT&T didnt offer Centennial customers anything nice or allowed them to live out their 2 year contracts in peace. It was all "Dark side or GTFO!" How underhanded of them to maliciously block Centennial users from their own network in an attempt to have them join AT&T outright? (hmm that kind of sounds like the whole 3g argument) This whole Centennial - AT&T is NOT opinion but actual fact.

All i can say is that they gave T-Mo a 12 month warning (sort-of-speak) I know that our plans in USA are completely different than here in PR (unlimited calling and texting for 39.99... unlimited calling+texting+data for 64.99) So the price gap between AT&T and T-Mo are bigger than 10 bucks.

IN MY OPINION as far as T-Mo goes in Puerto Rico. I know AT&T will stop at nothing to put the hurt on T-Mo and their cheap plans going as far as (again) having T-Mo customers have obsolete phones in their hands in a matter of months.

I do believe that AT&T buying T-Mo is the states does seem a bit monopolistic and as it ripples down to the island AT&T already HAD a monopoly on the airwaves already. Adding another company was just a cherry on top.
 
~Cha~ said:
wow is all i have to say after reading all of this.

@ AndreaCristiano
Opinions are all fine and dandy but when you just try to shove your own down everyone else's throat in such a matter of fact tone not only do you look like a naggy AT&T fanboy/girl but you come off totally annoying and so not credible with what you say.

That and you have a watered down EVO copy.

@everyone else on this post

I work for T-Mo and we were struggling to make numbers. These past 4 months T-Mo has been employing new tactics to gain more customers and so far the project WAS working. We were growing again, albeit not in leaps & bounds but in this sort of economy it was an awesome change! But Grandaddy Deutsch Telekom wanted nothing of it.

Here in Puerto Rico AT&T just recently did a hostile takeover on a local cellphone company called Centennial. It wasn't all peaches and cream. AT&T didnt offer Centennial customers anything nice or allowed them to live out their 2 year contracts in peace. It was all "Dark side or GTFO!" How underhanded of them to maliciously block Centennial users from their own network in an attempt to have them join AT&T outright? (hmm that kind of sounds like the whole 3g argument) This whole Centennial - AT&T is NOT opinion but actual fact.

All i can say is that they gave T-Mo a 12 month warning (sort-of-speak) I know that our plans in USA are completely different than here in PR (unlimited calling and texting for 39.99... unlimited calling+texting+data for 64.99) So the price gap between AT&T and T-Mo are bigger than 10 bucks.

IN MY OPINION as far as T-Mo goes in Puerto Rico. I know AT&T will stop at nothing to put the hurt on T-Mo and their cheap plans going as far as (again) having T-Mo customers have obsolete phones in their hands in a matter of months.

I do believe that AT&T buying T-Mo is the states does seem a bit monopolistic and as it ripples down to the island AT&T already HAD a monopoly on the airwaves already. Adding another company was just a cherry on top.
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At you I'm a man and I'm not whinning trying to explain business to some.people. Also I love your assessment of my inspire being a watered down EVO shows how intelligent you are. The EVO and Inspire have only two things in common made by HTC and 4.3 inch screen. EVO has an older processor, less RAM regular screen not a super LCD , 5 mp camera not 8 also no dual led flash. So watered down yea right. So you showed me .didn't you
 
Yeah the 4g phones may work but every one will lose there data plans and AT&T does not have the large or unlt. data plans like t-mobile and sprint. And a unlt. plan with AT&T will run you 114.99 vs t-mobile 99.99 so the bills will be going up the customer service will get worse and since AT&T took all billing and support options away from AT&T stores no help where you buy your phone i don't see anything good coming from this.
 
Those of us with great Everything Unlimited Plans will be the biggest losers. I'm at $70 and the thought of giving ATT over $100 for their crappy service is an outrage. My hope is that Sprint will purchase Metro and stay in the game. But there is a rumor of a hostile bid for Sprint by VZW. If that should come to pass, it will be tough to get a good deal for the consumer anywhere.

I cannot help but wonder what happens to companies like Simple Mobile (a BYOP company that uses Tmo's pipes) They began in November of '09 and already have a million subscribers. OMG! Simple Mobile What happens to THEM??? - They offer a $69 unlimited everything cornucopia.
 
Gizmodo agrees that the merger is a horror of an idea and that we are screwed if it goes through.
http://gizmodo.com/#!5784132/how-the-new-att+mobile-is-probably-going-to-bone-you-hardcore

I believe that we have recourse. But we must ACT. This is the time to write your Congressperson to make them earn their appointment. Get global attention on the matter. No one thought that the Bells could be broken up...but they were. We cannot allow time to roll back to their megalomania to run our lives again.

There are 3 kinds of people in the world: Those who make things happen, those who watch what happens and those who wonder what happened???
 
I know the price plans are similar, with ATT being slightly higher. The one that I would like to see is a slightly cheaper bring your own phone! That's what I have now, and I really can't see paying for a subsidized phone when I don't have one. I would rather buy unlocked phones outright.
Z
 
zuben el genub said:
I know the price plans are similar, with ATT being slightly higher. The one that I would like to see is a slightly cheaper bring your own phone! That's what I have now, and I really can't see paying for a subsidized phone when I don't have one. I would rather buy unlocked phones outright.
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Simple Mobile which uses Tmo pipes (as I stated in another post) is a Bring Your Own Phone company. You get unlimited everything for $69 supposedly. I get that rate with Tmo direct. But it is great to have an alternative of sorts. Btw, IMHO ATT is not slightly higher, they are markedly higher:

Nation Unlimited Talk Plan $69.99 per month
Mid-Tier DataPro 2G SmartPhone Data Plan $25.00 per month
(If you exceed 2gigs its $10 per 1G of overages!)
Unlimited Texting w/Mobile2Mobile - $20.00
Mobile Insurance $4.99 per month - Subject to a $50 or $125 non-refundable deductible
Roadside Assistance $2.99

So. To replace my wonderful Tmo Unlimited Everything @ $70 per month will cost me $122.97 per month with ATT. That's a whopping $52.97 more PER MONTH!!!

I could do something else with that $53 per month:cool:
 
This is Sad News, however, I will NEVER... EVER again go with a CDMA carrier (Sprint/Verizon). I have to have a "spare" cell phone in order to even go overseas since it is easier to find a GMS carrier than a CDMA carrier.

I guess it's AT&T for me then. Sucks, but not much choice.

I am just glad I still have an account with them and am grandfathered into the unlimited plan. :D
 
Most so-called 4G (HSPA+) T-Mobile phones will not work. They use 1700 MHz for 3G/HSPA+ (the UMTS bands on the phone specs). AT&T is buying T-Mobile to gain this 1700 MHz spectrum and change it from UMTS to actual 4G LTE. On the AT&T side they use 850 MHz and 1900 MHz for UMTS. Only the original Vibrant which is no longer sold (not the new 4G update of it) and the upcoming G2x use both 1700 and 1900 UMTS. The G2x goes so far as to also have 850 thrown in as well. Both these phones will get full 3G/HSPA+ speed today on AT&T if unlocked (and probably won't need to unlock after the acquisition completes). No other T-Mobile out today will receive better than 2G EDGE data speeds.
 
I'm good. My phone spec's out: Network GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 UMTS: Yes

But I'm not looking to stay with The mad hATT-er so it doesn't much matter. By the time the deal is good and solid, my contract will be up, unless they do something really stupid before that time (Which they've been known to do, LOL).
 
NowVoyager said:
I'm good. My phone spec's out: Network GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 UMTS: Yes
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That's GSM (voice and 2G). You need to look at UMTS bands to determine 3G/HSPA+. The G2 uses 1700 for UMTS download. So once AT&T rolls out their LTE the G2 will only have 2G data on AT&T.
 
I found out that the 4G should work. It passed the FCC with all the necessary bands if they weren't crippled. The Galaxy 3 matches the ATT bands. I'm more concerned about restrictions on Android.
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fangorious said:
That's GSM (voice and 2G). You need to look at UMTS bands to determine 3G/HSPA+. The G2 uses 1700 for UMTS download. So once AT&T rolls out their LTE the G2 will only have 2G data on AT&T.
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Thanks for the head's up (its 1700/2100) but there are 2 things that won't matter:

1. I won't be an ATT customer
2. I will most likely have a new phone by the time all of this comes into play w/in two years, which is their current timeline for implementation.

It will take at least a year alone for the deal to close.
 
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