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Tmobile-MetroPCS Merger Updates & Questions

There have been reports
From tmobile customers searching for tmobile LTE
of MetroPCS LTE showing up in areas where metro has no coverage whatsoever. ie Seattle, Colorado Springs so I've been wondering if tmobile has just been lending them some spectrum to test with but then I realize its in those areas with tmobile rolling out LTE so there's no extra spectrum available at all without tmobile degrading their HSPA network and I don't believe they're doing that. Metro has spectrum in Seattle not much though im not sure about CSprings though. So does anyone have an idea what's going on, coverage expansion, tests?
 
Gman9831 said:
There have been reports
From tmobile customers searching for tmobile LTE
of MetroPCS LTE showing up in areas where metro has no coverage whatsoever. ie Seattle, Colorado Springs so I've been wondering if tmobile has just been lending them some spectrum to test with but then I realize its in those areas with tmobile rolling out LTE so there's no extra spectrum available at all without tmobile degrading their HSPA network and I don't believe they're doing that. Metro has spectrum in Seattle not much though im not sure about CSprings though. So does anyone have an idea what's going on, coverage expansion, tests?
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New prls are being tested ;)
 
If we live in an area that has good coverage for T-Mo and say for example we're getting 3-5 Mps now on Metro, will they be able to boost our speeds just by changing our PRL to include the T-Mo towers?

Or, approximately how long after the merger is settled might we Metroers see our data speeds go up?

Bruce in Ocala, FL
 
OcalaFlGuy said:
If we live in an area that has good coverage for T-Mo and say for example we're getting 3-5 Mps now on Metro, will they be able to boost our speeds just by changing our PRL to include the T-Mo towers?

Or, approximately how long after the merger is settled might we Metroers see our data speeds go up?

Bruce in Ocala, FL
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I think it will take more then a prl change, though the fact that t mobile lte and metro lte is on the same band it should make it just a minor tweak to the towers.
But here in florida we will have to wait till tmobile actually deploys lte here.
I suspect orlando might be the first in florida but I do hope jacksonville is.:p

The only road map I have seen is almost right away after the merger metropcs subscribers in t mobile lte markets will get a huge bump as they go live on the tmo-metro combined lte. tmo customers will not get access to the metro spectrum until later down the road.
 
Well, It's Not a Done Deal until the shareholders Say it is, but I would agree that'll happen on 4/24.

When it comes to mergers, I don't believe Anything til I see the "dried ink" on the "paper"... ;)

Bruce in Ocala, FL
 
Joshuah22a said:
Do you have a pic of said roadmap? I live in orlando!
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here is one, very broad and vague detailed one, I seen one better so Ill edit it in when I find it.

MetroPCS Phones Will Use T-Mobile's 4G LTE Network After Merger

here is the one, remember though this was written almost 6 months ago, I dont see them changing things up much unless its to give the subscribers of both companies access to the combined spectrum that would be very cool.

http://gigaom.com/2012/10/13/how-the-t-mobile-metropcs-merger-affects-consumers/
 
Dish and Sprint.

There haven't been two companies skanky enough for Each Other like that since K-Fart and Sears merged. They deserve each other.

Bruce in Ocala, FL
 
mike28 said:
MetroPCS to Investors: Approve T-Mobile Deal (Phone Scoop)
Done deal :thumbup::thumbup:
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OcalaFlGuy said:
Well, It's Not a Done Deal until the shareholders Say it is, but I would agree that'll happen on 4/24.

When it comes to mergers, I don't believe Anything til I see the "dried ink" on the "paper"... ;)
Bruce in Ocala, FL
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Joshuah22a said:
MetroPCS board of directors unanimously approves improved Deutsche Telekom bid | PhoneDog
So is this it!?
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Same thing posted up there
 
bnb25 said:
actually it does. their plan is to dissolve metro pcs for the most. move everyone over to their network and by 2015 shut down metros cdma network all together. The "new" company will be called T Mobile.

we will all see what they do in the next few years.;)
Reference

:What T-Mobile's merger with MetroPCS means to you (FAQ) | Mobile - CNET News

Quote: The way it will work, according to the plan outlined by T-Mobile, is that the LTE service will run on AWS spectrum that is combined from T-Mobile and MetroPCS. And the new T-Mobile will use its and MetroPCS's PCS spectrum to deliver HSPA+ service. MetroPCS's current CDMA network will be phased out by the end of 2015.
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bnb25 said:
it's not metro hate. It's facts stated in their own plan that they will be devolving metro pcs. I gave you the proof. but you have the right to believe what you want.:shakehands:
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[Since we were directed to redirect this portion of posts by the Mods...]

It appears you are genuinely unclear with the concept of what constitutes the burden of "proof".

Absolutely No Where does it say it that article (6 months old, by "just" a reporter for Cnet.) one single word that indicates any move to drop MetroPCS branding per se. Not a single word.

Now, what Would Be closer to proof is the published statement by Metro Already that MetroPCS branding *Will not be affected* by the merger.

But yeah, that withstanding, I'm cool! ;)

PS Interestingly enough. If you'll check out the post above this one, you'll see 6 months Newer information than your "proof", from TMo sources instead of some web reporter that much more clearly comes close to "proving" they'll continue to be 2 separately branded parts of the combined company.

Bruce in Ocala, FL
 
It would make sense to keep the MetroPCS name around as it lets them do slightly different product offerings without making the plans of any of their services overly complicated.

For example at the $50 price point using current pricing.

Post paid T-Mobile. Pay fees. 500 MB of 4g. Voice and data roaming.
Pre paid T-Mobile. Fees included. 500MB of 4g. Voice roaming.
MetroPCS. Fees included. 2.5gb of 4g. No roaming.
Go Mobile. Fees included. 4gb of capped data. No roaming.

Or unlimited 4G.

Post paid T-Mobile. $70+fees. Voice and data roaming + 500mb tethering.
Pre paid T-Mobile. $70 including fees. Voice roaming.
MetroPCS. $70 including fees and taxes. No roaming.

Of course we have no idea how MetroPCS will handle roaming. Whether some or any regional/at&t roaming will be included, denied, or charged like verizon "traveltalk" roaming is now. But it is one of many vectors they could use to position MetroPCS and make it a useful "value" brand between t-mobile and go mobile.

I want to transition to GSM asap to keep maximum resale value out of my Galaxy s3 which unfortunately has plumeted with next generation phones coming to market. But I do wonder how much sooner than the 2015 shutoff date T-Mobile is going to start starving the legacy CDMA networks. Particularly in aws markets.
 
OcalaFlGuy said:
[Since we were directed to redirect this portion of posts by the Mods...]

It appears you are genuinely unclear with the concept of what constitutes the burden of "proof".

Absolutely No Where does it say it that article (6 months old, by "just" a reporter for Cnet.) one single word that indicates any move to drop MetroPCS branding per se. Not a single word.

Now, what Would Be closer to proof is the published statement by Metro Already that MetroPCS branding *Will not be affected* by the merger.

But yeah, that withstanding, I'm cool! ;)
PS Interestingly enough. If you'll check out the post above this one, you'll see 6 months Newer information than your "proof", from TMo sources instead of some web reporter that much more clearly comes close to "proving" they'll continue to be 2 separately branded parts of the combined company.

Bruce in Ocala, FL
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Bruce your 100% correct, just by looking at the original merger documents you can tell that even after 2015 they will still have both brands. Also the FAQ on the metro website.
 
Unfortunately all we are doing is regurgitating old data.
I would love to see new data with hard numbers now that the merger is all but signed.
Such as when metro will start using sim cards so people with unlocked/tmo phones can get on the hspa bandwagon. And even more important if you use a unlocked LTE phone that it stays on metro's current lte.
When they will have their first gsm phone for those that want to buy a metro branded phone.
Citizen asked about the retrofit of cdma and I think that is a great point. As people switch to gsm there will be less need of cdma so the faster people switch the faster they can decrease its spectrum.
Right now 100% of metro spectrum is cdma but lets say 6-8 months from now they have converted 2% to gsm and have sold at least one gsm phone. There will always be early adopters, and those who bring their own unlocked gsm phone so you go from 100% of the people on cdma to 75% of the people still on cdma that means those on cdma will get faster service (less usage=more per phone) they continue this trend for the next year and the number of cdma towers drops by a few % every few months while the rate that buy new gsm phones goes up. The last few on cdma will still get great speeds because so many will have converted.
 
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Oh I was just trying to show they use 10MHz in total for CDMA since they use 5MHz blocks with 4 channels they can only cut down once before they decommission all of it.
 
Well, FINALLY!, Today it IS an officially done deal. We are part of TMo.

The Mothership has a new fact sheet up. A little more carving into the forehead of those who still need to see "No, we're not killing MetroPCS" on their foreheads Every morning just to be sure. :rolleyes: (Any You Here KNOW who You Are!)

And perhaps the one hidden gem.

*No TMo network phones until next year!*

Unlimited Wireless Service - MetroPCS

I didn't think they'd be spitting TMo available phones for us as soon as some were saying anyway.

Bruce in Ocala, FL
 
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