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Two life styles; you pick
- Thread starter nateo200
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I disagree. I'm only 25 so I don't have a true path yet.
But I still think that is pure hog wash.
You don't need to have a wife and kids to have a meaningful life. Don't let them suck you into their misery
Well I'm not saying I don't want kids I figure I'll just hold off on that and make some money. Kids really take all your money, like my dad makes over 100 grand a year and we really just suck it all away me and my two other siblings. Like I would be pretty pissed knowing that...
jamor
Android Expert
Vihzel
Destroying Balls Everyday
My parents pay at least $90k per year on my brother and me. That includes tuition, rent, meals, traveling, car payments, car insurance, health insurance, and any other expenses really. I am extremely thankful for them working so hard to provide my brother and I comfortable lives. In return though... I have to take over their main business. Fine by me! 
PaulMcCartney
Android Expert
I choose #1.
SB13X
Android Expert
Unless you have kids you wouldn't understand, you may have a fruitful and fulfilling life for however long it lasts without children but if you happen to be an only child and you decide not to have kids in a couple of centuries time the truth of it is you existence will have counted for nought. If you happen to be a genuine treasure to the earth, how disappointing would it be that you didn't take the chance of passing those good genes and personality traits to another generation so that they maybe appreciated for years to come and provide you with a lasting legacy that will be recorded for the rest of time so long as our civilisations survive that long. Without having children and passing on our skills and talents lives are truly meaningless as your lifetime is but a drop in the ocean and is insignificant, however a lineage of family has more of a probability to continually provide people who will give it impact accross humanities continued existence.
Until you have children a lot of this can be meaningless to you and you may just carry on with such a self serving attitude without the ability to look at the big picture further than the tip of your nose. I also know many will think this is preachy. The thing is I had similar attitudes prior to having my family. Since then though all my misconceptions and prejudices on the world have been re evaluated or thrown out the window completely. The biggest impact of all is how you perceive your own and that of your families mortality. It makes you realise how fragile we humans really are and that every moment and day should be cherished to put the feeling in its most base form.
Anyway I'm tired and have nattered on too much and most of it probably won't make sense but there you go...
You don't have to have children to perceive mortality. Yes every moment should be cherished, but again you don't need children to do that.
Pryomancer
Android Enthusiast
So what if your great grandchild decides to have no children, or someone else down the line decides to screw up your chances of being immortal
Having children is by no means the definition of having a meaningful life. What drivel. You seem so concerned with the fate of humanity, actually what you're saying is pretty offensive.
The big picture is that no matter how many children you have and what you do in your life, your existence is a chance occurance and has no wider impact in the grand scheme of things.
Hrethgir
Android Expert
I say choice 2 because you're young, go enjoy life and make money while you can! Then, once you're a little older and more settled, then look for a family. Or not. And who said you have to have kids? I'm 36 and have been married over 7 years, and we have no plans to ever have children.
Hrethgir
Android Expert
So? I'll be dead, why should I give a crap? Besides, if you do big things, you will be remembered no matter what. Do we only remember Orville and Wilbur Wright because their children preserved their memory? Go on, name 1 great person who history forgot because they didn't have kids. Although I guess if history forgot them, you wouldn't be able to do that.... Well, my point still stands!
And I'm not going to be so pretentious to think that MY little angels will be all that is good and right in the world, because that's a load. I might have a great personality and be healthy and smart, but that doesn't mean my kid wouldn't be a fat asshole with no friends. I'm tired of that whole thing of people breeding to basically see what a little version of them will be like. There are enough people in the world, seriously, do we really need more?
Anyways, what I'm saying is don't tell us that because having children changed your life and outlook for the better, that it will do the same for everyone. Not everyone should be having kids. Trust me, I've been to Walmart.
ekyle
Android Expert
No, no they shouldn't. I know of a few people who should not be breeding yet they continue to do so...
3devious
Android Expert
I'm with Hrethgir. Besides if you spawn a bunch of assholes, would you want your immortality bonded to that?
"They won't be assholes, because I'll raise them properly."
I bet there's a large cross section of prison inmates whose parents said the same thing. Get over your arrogance and stop parading your f- trophies around like you've done your part for society. Follow through with it so that we won't have to clean up after them or you in the end.
At 17, you only really need to do a few things: Stay in school so that you'll have as many options available and make sure that you are never caught doing anything that would prevent you from getting a security clearance.
I would add not to be a douche but most of us never master that part, but that would probably take you farther in life that all of the above.
"They won't be assholes, because I'll raise them properly."
I bet there's a large cross section of prison inmates whose parents said the same thing. Get over your arrogance and stop parading your f- trophies around like you've done your part for society. Follow through with it so that we won't have to clean up after them or you in the end.
At 17, you only really need to do a few things: Stay in school so that you'll have as many options available and make sure that you are never caught doing anything that would prevent you from getting a security clearance.
I would add not to be a douche but most of us never master that part, but that would probably take you farther in life that all of the above.
ekyle
Android Expert
There isn't much anyone can do to change how a person will be. All a parent can do is try to direct them. I had my first one when I was 18. My fiancee is almost done with college and I'm starting my master's and have a full-time job as a network admin. I'd say I'm turning out just fine. I can only hope the best for my kids, but there are a lot of factors that shape them. Not just the parents (that's what a lot of parents don't understand). All a person can really do is be there for their kids and try to guide them in the right direction. The rest is up to them.
WAdude
Android Enthusiast
Id choose life 2, make some money, save up, get a hot wife ( whos loyal), 2 kids, and Im set. And if I were to choose a car, excuse my language (CAR, really?), I mean truck, It would be a big azz Ford F450 dually, in black. That way, Im getting 20mpg and still haulin' azz. 
But it depends, if your willing to put some time in to life, if not choose life 1.
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origin_of_symmetry
Newbie
As as sensible almost-29 year old, Choice 1 seems to make the most sense to me. Whats the point in having a life if not to share it with anyone. Yeah you can be single forever and swim in a pool of cash a la Scrooge McDuck, but does money and success genuinely make one happy?
But of course when I was the OP's age (oh so long ago!) I probably thought that having lots of money and a flash car meant more. Time and experience changes that perception.
I'm not married, reasonable job, reasonable car, lots of ambition, but I would like to get married and have kids someday. Being a Mum won't define me as a Mum, but I know my kids'll make me smile, make me angry, make me laugh and make me sad.... and you will never get those emotions driving an M3 and living alone with lots of cash, not really.
But of course when I was the OP's age (oh so long ago!) I probably thought that having lots of money and a flash car meant more. Time and experience changes that perception.
I'm not married, reasonable job, reasonable car, lots of ambition, but I would like to get married and have kids someday. Being a Mum won't define me as a Mum, but I know my kids'll make me smile, make me angry, make me laugh and make me sad.... and you will never get those emotions driving an M3 and living alone with lots of cash, not really.
Pryomancer
Android Enthusiast
Thanks for your valuable input.
Frisco
=Luceat Lux Vestra=
I googled "dollar hit" and was not successful at finding much.
Maybe the OP does know..
lol ..
.. etc..You say this from your experience as a 17year old perhaps? Maybe you knew little at 17years old, but that doesn't mean others don't; as a 17year old I certainly couldn't be described as knowing shit.
Frisco
=Luceat Lux Vestra=
+1 and great points, mpw.
Wisdom increases with age in most people, but that does not mean that the young have no wisdom, otherwise they'd not know when to recognize the newer pieces of knowledge as they come along.
I still learn from people much younger than me, as well as from some of the older folks.
OfTheDamned
The Friendly Undead
I chose #1 because family is very important to me. Having all the money in the world means very little if there is no one to share it with, for me. Luckily, you can do both and many people do.
Right now, you are 17 and what you want or care about will change greatly over the next few years. It is important to plan for the future, but it is equally important to live for the now. You can do both. Enjoy being young while having fun and let this stuff sort itself out on its own. The only thing that comes from attempts to plan things of this magnitude out is disappointment and heartbreak.
Right now, you are 17 and what you want or care about will change greatly over the next few years. It is important to plan for the future, but it is equally important to live for the now. You can do both. Enjoy being young while having fun and let this stuff sort itself out on its own. The only thing that comes from attempts to plan things of this magnitude out is disappointment and heartbreak.
