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Root Unlocked, Root & Bootloaders

neil154

Android Enthusiast
I have just purchased a Verizon HTC Thunderbolt (not yet received switching from BB Storm2) and I am getting confused over some terms which I would appreciate your help with.

I just saw an article which said Verizon was going to lock down some phones and I do not know what that means and what it stops me from doing. I also have seen on the forum that many people root their phone (maybe lock down prevents rooting?) and I have seen information on Bootloaders and do not know anything about it.

So if someone could explain all of the terms and how they all fit together I would appreciate it.
 
Also,do you have a link of the article you're referring to?

"Locked down" could mean bootloaders,or it could simply be referring to locking the device to only operate on 1 carrier. Especially if the carrier is using GSM sim cards,or using world phones that have the capability of running on many cdma and GSM frequencies.
 
Where there is a will there is a way with the bootloaders. Moto started locking up their phones after the OG Droid. I will be shocked if VZW tries to lock up the Nexus but if they do I am sure there will be a way to root it still. If VZW manages to pull the strings and lock up the Nexus then it would shock me if there is any other nexus device ever on VZW.
 
Verizon won't touch the Nexus with their greedy fingers, nor will they lock it. The bootloader is already unlocked and it'll be rooted easily (if it isn't already)
 
Verizon won't touch the Nexus with their greedy fingers, nor will they lock it. The bootloader is already unlocked and it'll be rooted easily (if it isn't already)

I hope so, I am drooling over the nexus and if VZW is allowed to screw it up I may be drawn to another carrier once it is available elsewhere.
 
Where there is a will there is a way with the bootloaders.

to an extent. ways have been found to gain access to /system/ and even change kernels, but you still have no access to other partitions. recovery in locked bootloader devices is not a real partition that will always be there as it is when you have fill access to things. thats why when things go bad on a locked moto or sami you just have to flash yourself back to stock and start over.

feel free to post up other questions you may have after reading thru the tereminology post in the how to thread linked above. but in a nutshell:

locked bootloader means only flashing things that are signed and approved by that devices mfgr. in other words,you can flash a radio or recovery,and in some case youre even limited on wich stock RUUs you can run.

however,having a locked bootloader does not prevent you from making changes to /system/ if exploits can be found to gain access to it on whtever firmware the device is running. with s-on,you can still flash roms,and even kernels in most cases and run root only apps.

unlocked bootloader is pretty much wide open. you can flash whaever software you wish,older or newer RUUs,you can flash single partitions that wernt approved and signed my the mfgr. i.e.,you can flash a new recovery,radio,or bootloader via an unlocked bootloader.

rooting devices with a true unlocked bootloader is rediculously easy. you just flash your self a new recovery,then use that recovery to place the needed root files into/system to continue on a stock roted rom. or you can simply flash custom fimrware from the beginning,immediately after flashing the recovery. there are no exploits,hacks,or downgrades needed.

samsung has made efforts to keep its bootloaders open for the community. htc,while locked down in most cases,have been proven fairly hacker friendly,with workarounds and methods in place for most all devices to unlock the bootloader. motorola has gone a step further and encrytped its locked bootloaders,making it nearly impossible to crack. to this day,the droid 2,x,etc. despite all the advnces and even full CM support are still equipped with locked down bootloaders. :eek:

hope that helps clear it up a lil. i personally will never buy a device whos bootloader i cant unlock.
 
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