Verizon's lack luster phones.

[Crude]

So there's a pretty good change I will be taking two lines to Sprint this year. For one they have better pricing and their coverage is as good as Verizon's in my area. But I'm baffled why Verzion never has the markets top of the line phone until it's being replaced. The iphone on Verizon is about to be released almost a full year after at&t. And the thunderbolt is essentially the EVO almost a full year after Sprint had it. The droid bionic looks promising, but the atrix has twice the ram and webtop. Granted I would rather use a land line then use at&t but with this in mind I cannot entertain the bionic as a top of the line phone.

Is Verizon holding out until the phones are cheaper what's the deal?

 

[snuggles]

So there's a pretty good change I will be taking two lines to Sprint this year. For one they have better pricing and their coverage is as good as Verizon's in my area. But I'm baffled why Verzion never has the markets top of the line phone until it's being replaced. The iphone on Verizon is about to be released almost a full year after at&t. And the thunderbolt is essentially the EVO almost a full year after Sprint had it. The droid bionic looks promising, but the atrix has twice the ram and webtop. Granted I would rather use a land line then use at&t but with this in mind I cannot entertain the bionic as a top of the line phone.

Is Verizon holding out until the phones are cheaper what's the deal?

x2, what the hell is up with Verizon????? After CES we still have to wait longer for the thunderbolt to release, WTF!!!! As I said before the thunderbolt should have been released 6 months after the DINC. I have no problem canceling my contract with Verizon and paying the penalty if they don't get their freakin act together!!!!

 

[butthead007]

CDMA phones follow a longer development cycle due to there being a smaller audience for them. LTE should improve this situation for manufacturers.

If you look on Sprint forums, you'll read the same argument about phones. As a matter of fact, if you read any ATT forums and TMobile forums, you'll read the same argument there as well.

I guess the grass always appears to be greener and you can't please everyone.

 

[pequeajim]

Oh boy, another "I'm leaving Verizon if they don't bla bla bla..." message....

x2, what the hell is up with Verizon????? After CES we still have to wait longer for the thunderbolt to release, WTF!!!! As I said before the thunderbolt should have been released 6 months after the DINC. I have no problem canceling my contract with Verizon and paying the penalty if they don't get their freakin act together!!!!

 

[wtherrell]

Ya. Many yrs ago, Erma Bombeck summed it up: "The grass is always greener over the septic tank"
I can understand the frustration with Verizon. However, if you have ever been in the situation where none of your friends on Sprint, T-Mobile, At&t could use their phones due to no service but you could connect just fine, and they all had to borrow your phone to make their calls you would understand why I keep coming back to Big Red. I have been in that situation several times and most of those friends later switched to VZW.
If the other networks ever get as good, then I may consider switching to get a different phone or better price.

 

[wtherrell]

x2, what the hell is up with Verizon????? After CES we still have to wait longer for the thunderbolt to release, WTF!!!! As I said before the thunderbolt should have been released 6 months after the DINC. I have no problem canceling my contract with Verizon and paying the penalty if they don't get their freakin act together!!!!

Maybe the stockholders should elect you as Chairman of the Board and CEO. I'm sure you would be able to get their act together.

 

[Knewz]

There will also be an LG Revolution and Samsung(unnamed) device for 4g

 

[Taylored]

I am not sure I agree with your Thunderbolt/Evo comparison. The Thunderbolt is not a huge leap forward, but it will have a 20%+ increase on the processor and a 50% increase on RAM. This combination should make for a pretty nice phone. I do not see it as enough to switch from the Evo to the Thunderbolt(unless you just have money to burn), but it is an impressive phone.
Also, last year Verizon had the Incredible, and call me bias, but I still think it was the best phone of 2010.

 

[Crude]

Oh boy, another "I'm leaving Verizon if they don't bla bla bla..." message....

Maybe the stockholders should elect you as Chairman of the Board and CEO. I'm sure you would be able to get their act together.

Attack the issue not the poster or something like that...

I am not sure I agree with your Thunderbolt/Evo comparison. The Thunderbolt is not a huge leap forward, but it will have a 20%+ increase on the processor and a 50% increase on RAM. This combination should make for a pretty nice phone. I do not see it as enough to switch from the Evo to the Thunderbolt(unless you just have money to burn), but it is an impressive phone.
Also, last year Verizon had the Incredible, and call me bias, but I still think it was the best phone of 2010.

On Verizon I'd say your probably right. Maybe a tossup between the x and the dinc. Both have desirable features the other doesn't but the dinc defiantly has less suck. Across the networks I'd say the evo was the best phone of 2010.

It's hard to tell right now what to do. I live in a very rural state. I get great coverage from Verizon and sprint, and Verizon is costing me a lot more right now. I wish Verizon would through me a bone here cause 4 smartphones are costing me as much as my wifes jeep. That's just not right. And now with the iphone hitting verizon the company has become even more restrictive. I'm about positive I'll drop at least 2 smart phones this year and if there is a phone I really want on sprint I'll take the other two lines to sprint. This isn't a complaint it's just me thinking out loud.

 

[Sailingmaster]

So why don't you call in and get the talk & text data promo? It's still being offered as a save-the-customer option until the end of this month.

 

[Crude]

So why don't you call in and get the talk & text data promo? It's still being offered as a save-the-customer option until the end of this month.

Not to sound like a moron, but what's the trick there? I've tried and got shot down a few times and figured something on my plan tells em I'm not eligible. Mind you I'm polite, to the point even when turned down. Is my area lacking competition? Two phones are out of contract in nov and eligible for ne2 in july.

 

[bigbadwulff]

Ever hear of the Droid X ?

Droid Incredible even?

Fascinate?

 

[PSkeptic]

This is my experience with Verizon:

Verizon builds their infrastructure out for business users; residential/consumer users are a byproduct of it.

This ends with the following result: Verizon usually does NOT get the latest and greatest out the door. But, what they do put out the door generally speaking is rock solid. And, not just with wireless: DSL, Telco, etc.

It also leads to them not being the cheapest out there. You have to look at the total package of what you get: With a Verizon phone, you will always be able to make a call (Given if you are in the US, overseas, AT&T for sure). Even if you are not in their "primary service zone", you will be able to make a call (Albeit, you MAY roam, however I've found that to be VERY uncommon).

AT&T, for example, I can not make a guaranteed call if I am anywhere within 1 mile of the Canadian border. I always latch onto Roger's wireless, and AT&T has no roaming agreement.

Sprint? I can't use a Sprint phone in certain areas of my home. That has been the experience no matter where I go, even in downtown Chicago, there were times when my Sprint phone would lose signal in my hotel room, or while walking down the Magnificent Mile.

So, when you look at the total package, you can make a decision. Sometimes, you'll only be in an area well covered by Sprint, so Sprint would work for you. Same with AT&T. Maybe it will work for you, and totally fit your needs.

However, business customers tend to be less demanding of the "latest and greatest", and more so in the area of "It just works". Verizon fits the bill perfectly there.

 

[Crude]

Ever hear of the Droid X ?

Droid Incredible even?

Fascinate?

Be careful with the use of the rolleyes. It makes your post look derogatory.

 

[Taylored]

Be careful with the use of the rolleyes. It makes your post look derogatory.

I think that was the point.

On Verizon I'd say your probably right. Maybe a tossup between the x and the dinc. Both have desirable features the other doesn't but the dinc defiantly has less suck. Across the networks I'd say the evo was the best phone of 2010.

It's hard to tell right now what to do. I live in a very rural state. I get great coverage from Verizon and sprint, and Verizon is costing me a lot more right now. I wish Verizon would through me a bone here cause 4 smartphones are costing me as much as my wifes jeep. That's just not right. And now with the iphone hitting verizon the company has become even more restrictive. I'm about positive I'll drop at least 2 smart phones this year and if there is a phone I really want on sprint I'll take the other two lines to sprint. This isn't a complaint it's just me thinking out loud.

I think last years high end phone releases were all pretty close. The 'best' is probably more of a personal preference. I wanted the Evo and came close to getting it, but I am loyal to VZW... for now.

Verizon is expensive in comparison to Sprint, and their policies are getting a bit more restrictive, but if you get the right CSR on the phone they are usually able to bend a little and help you get what you need. Also, I just heard Sprint is raising their prices by $10 for all smartphone users effective Jan 30th.

 

[wtherrell]

This is my experience with Verizon:

Verizon builds their infrastructure out for business users; residential/consumer users are a byproduct of it.

This ends with the following result: Verizon usually does NOT get the latest and greatest out the door. But, what they do put out the door generally speaking is rock solid. And, not just with wireless: DSL, Telco, etc.

It also leads to them not being the cheapest out there. You have to look at the total package of what you get: With a Verizon phone, you will always be able to make a call (Given if you are in the US, overseas, AT&T for sure). Even if you are not in their "primary service zone", you will be able to make a call (Albeit, you MAY roam, however I've found that to be VERY uncommon).

AT&T, for example, I can not make a guaranteed call if I am anywhere within 1 mile of the Canadian border. I always latch onto Roger's wireless, and AT&T has no roaming agreement.

Sprint? I can't use a Sprint phone in certain areas of my home. That has been the experience no matter where I go, even in downtown Chicago, there were times when my Sprint phone would lose signal in my hotel room, or while walking down the Magnificent Mile.

So, when you look at the total package, you can make a decision. Sometimes, you'll only be in an area well covered by Sprint, so Sprint would work for you. Same with AT&T. Maybe it will work for you, and totally fit your needs.

However, business customers tend to be less demanding of the "latest and greatest", and more so in the area of "It just works". Verizon fits the bill perfectly there.

Well said.

 

[butthead007]

So why don't you call in and get the talk & text data promo? It's still being offered as a save-the-customer option until the end of this month.

Correct me if I am wrong, but you work for Verizon, right? Why are you telling people to call in and ask for a marketing promotion they are ineligible to receive? They should not be getting it if they were not extended the offer. So why suggest it?

 

[butthead007]

This is my experience with Verizon:

Verizon builds their infrastructure out for business users; residential/consumer users are a byproduct of it.

This ends with the following result: Verizon usually does NOT get the latest and greatest out the door. But, what they do put out the door generally speaking is rock solid. And, not just with wireless: DSL, Telco, etc.

It also leads to them not being the cheapest out there. You have to look at the total package of what you get: With a Verizon phone, you will always be able to make a call (Given if you are in the US, overseas, AT&T for sure). Even if you are not in their "primary service zone", you will be able to make a call (Albeit, you MAY roam, however I've found that to be VERY uncommon).

AT&T, for example, I can not make a guaranteed call if I am anywhere within 1 mile of the Canadian border. I always latch onto Roger's wireless, and AT&T has no roaming agreement.

Sprint? I can't use a Sprint phone in certain areas of my home. That has been the experience no matter where I go, even in downtown Chicago, there were times when my Sprint phone would lose signal in my hotel room, or while walking down the Magnificent Mile.

So, when you look at the total package, you can make a decision. Sometimes, you'll only be in an area well covered by Sprint, so Sprint would work for you. Same with AT&T. Maybe it will work for you, and totally fit your needs.

However, business customers tend to be less demanding of the "latest and greatest", and more so in the area of "It just works". Verizon fits the bill perfectly there.

Please stop making posts that are well thought out, show a basic understanding of how the world works, and makes me want to divorce my wife and have man babies with you.

Thank you. A very good post and a well thought out post. sadly, there is a dearth of intelligent feedback around here at times.

 

[Sailingmaster]

Correct me if I am wrong, but you work for Verizon, right? Why are you telling people to call in and ask for a marketing promotion they are ineligible to receive? They should not be getting it if they were not extended the offer. So why suggest it?

Because last month it became a save option, which means customers who call in threatening to disconnect can get it... without having received the mailer offer. Call in, say that you've heard the Talk & Text Data Promo is available for customers who are threatening to disconnect, tell them straight up that you're threatening to disconnect if you don't get it. Shouldn't be a problem. You might have to escalate to a supervisor, but you should get it.

 

[bigbadwulff]

Be careful with the use of the rolleyes. It makes your post look derogatory.

Point well taken...

 

[YankeeDudeL]

When I first got to Verizon, that was the case. However, since they started backing Android, they really have lept to the front of the pack on that issue, IMO. When the Droid dropped, it was best phone available. The Nexus 1 came out, but was no diff from a rooted and OCed Droid. Of course, then the Droid Incredible came along, which was touted as the best phone on the market for a month or two. iPhone for sparked some interest, as did the Evo, but the Droid X answered that call. Everyone's got a Galaxy S phone. When the Thunderbolt drops, it'll be the best, the new LG and Samsung, and then the Bionic will all be at the top of the list when they drop.

It's a back and forth game for sure, but Verizon constantly takes their piece of the pie. And they seem poised to have another stellar year.

 

[SourPatchKid]

Ya. Many yrs ago, Erma Bombeck summed it up: "The grass is always greener over the septic tank"
I can understand the frustration with Verizon. However, if you have ever been in the situation where none of your friends on Sprint, T-Mobile, At&t could use their phones due to no service but you could connect just fine, and they all had to borrow your phone to make their calls you would understand why I keep coming back to Big Red. I have been in that situation several times and most of those friends later switched to VZW.
If the other networks ever get as good, then I may consider switching to get a different phone or better price.

This is VERY solid. The signal is worth the most to me because without that essential all you have is a Gameboy and an planner.

 

[Outlaw.99]

I had Sprint for years, and to me their phones were cheap and flimsy (Rant, Rumor, Lotus etc.) compared to the Verizon line of phones (Env2, Voyager)... But the rates were better, so I didnt switch until Sprint had coverage issues, and didnt work where I needed it to.....

Since switching to Verizon I have been quite pleased with service and the phones... All the devices are par with or better than Sprint/ ATT especially the D1/ D2/ and X....

I do wish Verizon WASNT getting the iPhone because all it will do is bring the unhappy masses from ATT over to slow up our wonderful network.... Most on Verizon Androids could care less about the i(myfirstsmart)phone....

 

[SourPatchKid]

I had Sprint for years, and to me their phones were cheap and flimsy (Rant, Rumor, Lotus etc.) compared to the Verizon line of phones (Env2, Voyager)... But the rates were better, so I didnt switch until Sprint had coverage issues, and didnt work where I needed it to.....

Since switching to Verizon I have been quite pleased with service and the phones... All the devices are par with or better than Sprint/ ATT especially the D1/ D2/ and X....

I do wish Verizon WASNT getting the iPhone because all it will do is bring the unhappy masses from ATT over to slow up our wonderful network.... Most on Verizon Androids could care less about the i(myfirstsmart)phone....

The iPhone is only available in limited quantities to existing Verizon customers.

 

[Outlaw.99]

The iPhone is only available in limited quantities to existing Verizon customers.

Didnt know about that, but it just affirms the notion that this is just a marketing tactic to:

a) move more of a device thats losing steam (Apple)

b) cash in on some unhappy campers at the other base (Verizon)