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Root [Virgin Mobile] maximum performance

don't know if its the software,twrp or im doing something wrong, but with the latest victorious, then flashing the newest vae victus as of right now ver 0.2 . something, my phone for the second time my phone boots up normally, then after 10 secons of use frezzes, screen unresponsive, when locked then unlocked the menue buttons only light up, only way to get rid of this is to remove battery, reinstall, but into recovery, wipe system, install the stock recovey I have, re install victorious, then don't install the fixed gpu boost ver 0.2 of vae victus, did it another time and did the same steps from before, but with another version of victorious the older one with1.5 cap and then flashed vaevictus fast charge, same freezing and no response, I don't know how to do a logcat, or will wait to do one, but if I come across this problem again I would be hapy to do so, this is the second time I this has happened, I think its the overclock or kernel, because never froze without it, be aware jerryscrpt can you check for capatability issues, ps I didn't wipe cache/dalavic when flashing vae victus like you recommended, and I never seem to have this problem when I have just victorious any version installed, and I always delete and reinstalled vae victus like 5 times, so I don't know where the issue is

The overclock could very well be the issue. If the phone can't handle that speed at startup, due to all the services initializing etc, it very well could freeze or crash.

I will release future versions of VaeVictus, including the version packaged with Victorious, with the default max cpu speed set to 1.5ghz, and step it down as needed based on future feedback.

Thanks for the bug-report! ;)
 
The overclock could very well be the issue. If the phone can't handle that speed at startup, due to all the services initializing etc, it very well could freeze or crash.

I will release future versions of VaeVictus, including the version packaged with Victorious, with the default max cpu speed set to 1.5ghz, and step it down as needed based on future feedback.

Thanks for the bug-report! ;)
don't do that, cant you just set the max clock speed at startup to 1ghz and after 30 seconds allow for 1.8+ overclock, my phone I think is optimal at 1.78 even when hot, 1.8 is to much heat fore my phone, then its too hot to charge, and a lot of applications force close, and its not practical, at 1.78 my phone plays games nicely, even when hot, it doesn't freeze or studder, but ive got an itch that it is my personal board limitations, ive heard people say their phone at 1.8 at performance with 400mhz gpu clock never force close from antu tu so that's what I think, also to fix the freezing problem,i have to backup saved recoveries or start from stock again, then flash victorious again, don't know if I should trie new vae victus with victorious again, or maybe it is the clock speed to high, no need to worry, the app that I recommended to jerryscript tickster mod can delay the overclock from 30 seconds to higher, so ill try to put both verions of victorious and vae victus, I just really was instrested in victroius for the sd internal swap, I just flash it and have more storage, jerryscipt, if you can just make a flashable sd to internal for victory,then I can have stock rom, with more storage and just flash vae victus and play my games with speed and storage, also jerryscript, you said you dooped the scipt, by not taking out bloatware, did you ever fix it?, cuz I still see bloatware when I flash victorius r2, it might be from automatic updates from playstore, idk, but yeah.
 
I flash victorious and for the first time, it takes forever, still loading until further notice and the Samsung screen shows up forver, I think its a bad download wtf
(I think its because when I flash I have usb connected, will backup g60madmans stock backup again! and try victorious, been having a bad week with the roms and kernels and flashing them and rebooting and loading times and complications, and backups to my computer that I don't want to backup because of jibba jabba fabbadabba madda, wow I have just been in twrp more than I have been using my phone, I have been re downloading files jic of bad downloads, and re installing them, transferring things and apks to my phone omg I just need sleep lol
 
don't do that, cant you just set the max clock speed at startup to 1ghz and after 30 seconds allow for 1.8+ overclock, my phone I think is optimal at 1.78 even when hot, 1.8 is to much heat fore my phone, then its too hot to charge, and a lot of applications force close, and its not practical, at 1.78 my phone plays games nicely, even when hot, it doesn't freeze or studder, but ive got an itch that it is my personal board limitations, ive heard people say their phone at 1.8 at performance with 400mhz gpu clock never force close from antu tu so that's what I think, also to fix the freezing problem,i have to backup saved recoveries or start from stock again, then flash victorious again, don't know if I should trie new vae victus with victorious again, or maybe it is the clock speed to high, no need to worry, the app that I recommended to jerryscript tickster mod can delay the overclock from 30 seconds to higher, so ill try to put both verions of victorious and vae victus, I just really was instrested in victroius for the sd internal swap, I just flash it and have more storage, jerryscipt, if you can just make a flashable sd to internal for victory,then I can have stock rom, with more storage and just flash vae victus and play my games with speed and storage, also jerryscript, you said you dooped the scipt, by not taking out bloatware, did you ever fix it?, cuz I still see bloatware when I flash victorius r2, it might be from automatic updates from playstore, idk, but yeah.

honestly i agree with the 30 sec delay to oc, phone only needs like 800 mhz to boot at a normal pace i believe, 1 ghz at boot will only save battery further, then we can implement a function to oc to 1.78 after 30 seconds
it'll be like "echo 1784000 > /sys/cpufreq/fhdafhjslklsfhja"
i cant remember the exact code but its along those lines

and as for the internal2external, i think that should be a flashable zip outside of victorious as it will save you headaches cause some ppl seem to have trouble using it, so let it float around if they want it and if it messes them up, its on them :) forget em... if they cant set it up...forget em cause they arent at that level yet...
 
Yeah I have so many issues with to get external to internal to work a flashable zip would be great! I always end up with both storage the same exact thing. :D
 
Yeah I have so many issues with to get external to internal to work a flashable zip would be great! I always end up with both storage the same exact thing. :D
yeah I love victorious, but flashing the new vae victus is like a driver update for my computer, better performance, more battery, which I don't really care about, but the heat is an issue, I will wait till winter and try the overclocks at 2.1 ghz lol, but thanks for all the support, I love the forums. I like victorious, but I think that the kernel upgrages and tweaks are really valueable from vae victus and the storage from victorious is why people flash both of them, but in turn have peoblems, but remember we are testers, lol the more we complain and fix kinks and recommend overclock settings and timings, the only better our phone can perform, even with the rebooting and reseting of my phone and just annoying issues ive had will be fixed and people will learn, that's just how it goes, ps if you sideload any apps then you can save your apks on your laptop like me or your desktop, and install them on a newly refreshed phone, but its amazing that our phones are powerful portable Linux computers now, lol remember the g1 with 550mhz processor and 1mhz gpu haha.
 
Back on the droid x and droid 2 JRummy designed the Liberty rom to have an install script built into the options menu, but it would also initalize at first bootup. Ideally we should have a full version rom that includes this (I feel like we have plenty of space in system to include extras like this); it would basically let you install the init scripts for swapping internal and external, choose what versions of apps you want (ie what camera, alarm, gallery, extras like gtalk, google movies and books, link2sd, and anything else we might want.

I can make a video of my droid 2 running liberty rom if you are curious exactly what I mean by this menu. It basically lets you customize the rom.

Maybe the end goal could be to have the full version with this kind of customizable options menu, and then a minimalist version that is straight vanilla with no extras at all (although the way I see it, if we have a system partition that is a set size, why leave so much of it empty and not use most of it?).
 
Back on the droid x and droid 2 JRummy designed the Liberty rom to have an install script built into the options menu, but it would also initalize at first bootup. Ideally we should have a full version rom that includes this (I feel like we have plenty of space in system to include extras like this); it would basically let you install the init scripts for swapping internal and external, choose what versions of apps you want (ie what camera, alarm, gallery, extras like gtalk, google movies and books, link2sd, and anything else we might want.

I can make a video of my droid 2 running liberty rom if you are curious exactly what I mean by this menu. It basically lets you customize the rom.

Maybe the end goal could be to have the full version with this kind of customizable options menu, and then a minimalist version that is straight vanilla with no extras at all (although the way I see it, if we have a system partition that is a set size, why leave so much of it empty and not use most of it?).
great I would love to see it makes the video
 
Hey.guys, update I have succesfully after hours of paperwork to.do flashed victorious
New vae.victus, and havent ran into any problems and for.over kocking.freezing.problem.I know a solution, first delay the.overclock.to.one minute, then you probably wont freeze up like.I did, also mr overclock himself was.right, I leave.my phone in front of an ac on high cool for.an hour which made the.phone 40 degrees farenhight seemed to fix the.heat.overclock kicking out of app issue, I can now run at 1.8 still be frosty and run antutu no prob thanks
 
Having read through this thread...


WHY would you need more than 1.7GHz? I have a Nexus 10 with a HUGE resolution and I have it underclocked to only 1.3GHz (the GPU is, granted, at 620MHz) and it does Asphalt 8 and buttery smooth framerates. If you must overclock, 1.8 should be more than enough, but like they said, you want to overclock the GPU. Also, I snickered at Shazam. No insulting snickers, just a "seriously?" snicker. If I had the money I'd get a second Victory to see if I could kill it via Shazam. lol

Also, someone already mentioned the severe entitled attitude.
 
Having read through this thread...


WHY would you need more than 1.7GHz? I have a Nexus 10 with a HUGE resolution and I have it underclocked to only 1.3GHz (the GPU is, granted, at 620MHz) and it does Asphalt 8 and buttery smooth framerates. If you must overclock, 1.8 should be more than enough, but like they said, you want to overclock the GPU. Also, I snickered at Shazam. No insulting snickers, just a "seriously?" snicker. If I had the money I'd get a second Victory to see if I could kill it via Shazam. lol

Also, someone already mentioned the severe entitled attitude.

But the nexus 10 has 2gb of RAM and like you said a better gpu, and it doesnt have all the TW bloatware. I think thats why even .in alpha the CM10 had such good performance.
 
But the nexus 10 has 2gb of RAM and like you said a better gpu, and it doesnt have all the TW bloatware. I think thats why even .in alpha the CM10 had such good performance.

Right, which is my thoguhts exactly on why this phone, with less than 1/4 of the resolution, doesn't need a more powerful GPU, 2GB of RAM, and all that jazz, if you strip Touchwiz and put on CM.
 
My phone runs optimal at 1.78ghz no more or it freezes but I want to see higher gpu clock speeds seeinghow other devices with practically the same chipset can do so but the 1.78 Iis already done all you would have to do is modify the vaevictus rom and allow for a higher gpu overclock and also I heard the gpu is more efficent than gpu which is prob why your tablet is super smooth with a gpu that has better capatibilities optimization more advanced shaders a lower manufacturing process size and lastly a higher clock speed so duhh its going to perform even with a higher resolution becuase it was made with newer games and higher resolution in mind
 
Mudflap, you missed my point.

My point was that the Victory has less than 1/4 the pixels. It doesn't NEED the advanced GPU to get the same framerates and such as the Nexus 10. In fact, I've benchmarked both with a 3D Game Benchmark (Unreal Engine) and the Victory blew the N10 out of the water. It was something like 50-60 frames per second (Victory) vs 17-21 (Nexus 10).

I also took the liberty of benchmarking it at various CPU settings and found there was no benefit to games having your CPU above 1.5GHz, on either device. The benchmarks may still be in one of the threads here.
 
Here are my benchmarks, N10 first.

Nexus 10 said:
OS: Android 4.2.2 Cyanogenmod 10.1
Kernel: KTManta with KTweaker App installed

All tests: Epic Citadel
Settings: "Ultra High Quality"
Rendered resolution: 100% (2560x1504)
CPU: Samsung Exynos 5 Dual-Core ARM Cortex A15
GPU: Mali-T604
CPU Voltage: 1300mV
GPU Voltage: 1300mV
Standard Memory Clock Speeds and GPU stepping

CPU 1.3GHz/GPU 720MHz - 21.1 FPS (My Current Settings)
CPU 1.5GHz/GPU 720MHz - 18.0 FPS
CPU 1.7GHz/GPU 533MHz - 16.0 FPS (Default Factory Setting)
CPU 1.7GHz/GPU 720MHz - 20.2 FPS
CPU 1.9GHz/GPU 533MHz - 16.2 FPS
CPU 1.9GHz/GPU 720MHz - 20.2 FPS
CPU 2.1GHz/GPU 533MHz - 16.6 FPS
CPU 2.1GHz/GPU 720MHz - 20.5 FPS

Samsung Victory said:
OS: Android 4.1.2 TouchWiz
Kernel: JupterOne's Redspot

Test App: Epic Citadel
Settings: "Ultra High Quality"
Rendered Resolution: 100% (800x480)
CPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon S4
GPU: Adreno 225

CPU 918MHz - 31.4 FPS
CPU 1.026GHz - 37.1 FPS
CPU 1.134GHz - 37.9 FPS
CPU 1.242GHz - 40.4 FPS (Default Factory Setting)
CPU 1.35GHz - 39.6 FPS (My Setting)
CPU 1.458GHz - 42.2 FPS
CPU 1.512GHz - 40.7 FPS
 
How hard is it to change a max clock speed on a computing hardware through its system files come on a little more boost in gpu can't be rocket science, isn't it just changing some numbers on the build prop file under system with a root file explorer? And how much room memory be left after flashing say Victorious mg5,? Can that memory be allocated or utilized for anything but rom or read only memory and would you need to code for doing so or no.
 
Typically, you need a custom kernel that has extended the table of allowable clock speeds and the operating voltage at each step. Not as trivial as changing the build.prop file. Changing the gpu speed is definitely harder, as is changing the storage partitioning.
 
How hard is it to change a max clock speed on a computing hardware through its system files come on a little more boost in gpu can't be rocket science, isn't it just changing some numbers on the build prop file under system with a root file explorer? And how much room memory be left after flashing say Victorious mg5,? Can that memory be allocated or utilized for anything but rom or read only memory and would you need to code for doing so or no.

U can Google that and start trying to come up with something like the rest of us
 
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