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What America Does Right

They do not teach it to their students in Europe anymore due to anti-American sentiment, but if you talk to the older people, like my Nono (grandpa) who lived in Italy at the time.. Americans were loved, adored, and heros of the world.

:confused: Exactly what do you mean by that? As in... America wasn't part of WWII? America didn't make a big statement in WWII? From what I know in history books, no book ever says someone "saved" another. History is all about facts, without inserting opinionated statements.
 
This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing.

America: The Good Neighbor.
"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth.

Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States. The only land we ever asked to keep was for the graves to bury our dead.

When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.

When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped.

The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars! into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans.

I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes?

Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles.

You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon -! not once, but several times - and safely home again.


When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke.

I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake.

Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those."
 
I think we to often dwell on the negative and we take for granted the things that make our quality of life the best anywhere.Take electricity,easy to take it for granted until you don't have it.We have the highest standard of living on ave.of any nation.The US media report the negative everyday (because thats what sells)which translates to negative perceptions.
People don't seem to realize most things that enable us to maintain the high standard of living is because most necessities are cheaper here than most other countries.We have much to be thankful for,thats not to say there aren't people in the US struggling especially in this economy.
 
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How about censoring the internet?

When China censors the internet, it only affects well China. But when America censors the internet, it affects the whole world. Yup America certainly got this one right.

Enjoy whatever freedoms you have left, because you never know when those freedoms might be taken away.

Merry Christmas.
 
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How about censoring the internet?

When China censors the internet, it only affects well China. But when America censors the internet, it affects the whole world. Yup America certainly got this one right.

Enjoy whatever freedoms you have left, because you never know when those freedoms might be taken away.

Merry Christmas.

You mean the freedom to steal or make it easy to steal the IP of others? Is that what has your panties in a twitter? The big, bad, gubberment going after the sneak thieves that prefer free to working for it and paying for it.

Perhaps you should create something of value and see how you like it if it is made available for free. We call that theft.

Bob Maxey
 
I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes?
eh Airbus had just 500 fewer sales of aircraft in the last decade than Boeing did

Lets not forget how upset people in the US get when your military gives a contract to Airbus ;)
When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke.

I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake.

Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those."
Well the US IS the most powerful country in the world, and has been for a century
Ye have all the expertise you need
Besides, if an EU country had a major catastrophe, they would seek help from other EU countries (under the LT frameworks)
BTW, compared to most WEU nations, ye give much less aid per head
Jus Sayin' :)
 
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How about censoring the internet?

When China censors the internet, it only affects well China. But when America censors the internet, it affects the whole world. Yup America certainly got this one right.

Enjoy whatever freedoms you have left, because you never know when those freedoms might be taken away.

Merry Christmas.
Ok where is it that states you have a right to internet? You just sound like these people that cries my rights my rights over every lil thing. How about grow up and contribute something useful to society. Than to cry and complain over every lil thing.

Oh and Merry Christmas to all.
 
Without getting into the uber-political arguments...

The thing America does better than anyone else? Choice. Purchasing, education, health care, politics, entertainment, banking, ... we have so many choices in everything we do. Probably just about my favorite thing about this country; if you don't like a particular company, brand, college, doctor, etc., then you just choose a different one from the many, many choices that are readily available. Small example: I don't think there are many other places where I can walk into a fairly small pharmacy and spend half an hour trying to decide which of the hundreds of cold medicines are likely to work best for me. Of course, the downside to this is that we have more advertising to tell us which of those cold medicines we need if we don't want to spend half an hour reading labels. ;)
 
"Well, we have a complex financial system which we have proven that we can make mistakes. But more fundamental than that is the innovation, the fact that you can create new companies, that people are willing to take risk and invest, that there's great science going on. This country still has the best universities, the best science, and we're going to tune our system of capitalism, you know. The idea that you have a lot of short-term loans covering long-term needs, the amount of leverage that was there, there are definitely some lessons. But the fundamentals of the system, a marketplace-driven system where we invest in education and a great infrastructure for the long-term, that's continued. And, you know, I'll bet there are some inventions that took place in that fall in the darkest hour: People were working on new drugs, new chips, new robots and things to make life better for everyone in the decades ahead." - Bill Gates - November 12, 2009

CNBC TRANSCRIPT: Warren Buffett & Bill Gates - Keeping America Great

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Without getting into the uber-political arguments...

The thing America does better than anyone else? Choice. Purchasing,
yes
education,
yes, tho I hear your middle school system isnt great choice-wise if you are poor
health care,
loads of choice. unless your poor. then you are fecked
politics,
center or far right! :rolleyes:
entertainment,
yeah!
banking, .
probably too much given what ye caused :p
 
loads of choice. unless your poor. then you are fecked

Nope. I was unemployed with no insurance for quite some time a few years ago. I had the choice to look into various low-cost/free clinics or ask around to see if any doctors would be willing to work with me on payments.

And the banking thing just proves my point. If my bank was one of the ones involved in the bailout, I have the option on an individual level to cancel my account with them and go to one of the several dozen other banks in my city. Or just not use a bank at all, if that's my preference.
 
Ok where is it that states you have a right to internet? You just sound like these people that cries my rights my rights over every lil thing. How about grow up and contribute something useful to society. Than to cry and complain over every lil thing.

Oh and Merry Christmas to all.

Isn't this about what America does right? Although he has some concern about takesdown, that fear and watchfulness seems natural, giving that he's posting from behind the great wall.

And Happiest Holidays, everyone!
 
Nope. I was unemployed with no insurance for quite some time a few years ago. I had the choice to look into various low-cost/free clinics or ask around to see if any doctors would be willing to work with me on payments.
But if you needed major surgery? :/
And the banking thing just proves my point. If my bank was one of the ones involved in the bailout, I have the option on an individual level to cancel my account with them and go to one of the several dozen other banks in my city. Or just not use a bank at all, if that's my preference.
I was reffering to the sub prime issue
Either way, the major issue was regulations, not being there and not being enforced, and my state is a perfect example :(

Isn't this about what America does right? Although he has some concern about takesdown, that fear and watchfulness seems natural, giving that he's posting from behind the great wall.

And Happiest Holidays, everyone!
Great Firewall ;)
And merry XMas to you BTW :)
 
Well the US IS the most powerful country in the world, and has been for a century

Maybe less than that.

Ye have all the expertise you need
While Yankee ingenuity is nothing to sneeze at, given that we don't take credit for Turing, Tesla and have nothing on Irish literature I'd say that's a stretch also.

Besides, if an EU country had a major catastrophe, they would seek help from other EU countries (under the LT frameworks)
What, asking every good nation for help in time of crisis has gone out of fashion?

BTW, compared to most WEU nations, ye give much less aid per head
Jus Sayin' :)
Aside from admitting that I'd just rather believe that factoid than confirm it, I'd point out that perhaps we have a bit less money left for humanitarian aid after spending it on a military presence in Europe for quite some time and that was brought about by an unhappy Austrian boy intent on re-fighting a war that refought a war in the previous century and because of and an eastern peasant who replaced the largess of the czars with the stifling terror of the gulag. Knocking them back was a concerted effort including us and what is now the WEU, so I'm not saying anyone owes us anything, but I am saying that overall when the chips are really down, maybe we don't come too very short after all.

That brings me to another thing America does very well - the carrier task force.

Whether throwing four and a half acres of Yankee protection across the world to safeguard those in harm's way or mooring offshore a troubled and ravaged nation providing an immediate floating city with food, shelter, medics and a massive surplus of electricity to aid those on shore, the US carrier task force can't be beat.

To our men and women and to all those who serve in other countries in the incessant battle against the threat of evil that is our human lot - I say thank you for the safety of peace that I treasure this fine day and that I wish you safe duty and a speedy return to your prairies, hills and harbors of home.
 
currently....nothing.
we have become a group of fat, lazy, sorry asses.
the men act like women and we let mexicans do our infastructure and out source the production of our products.
we buy everything foreign because current american made products suck.

at this point in our countries history we suck.

the only thing we do well, and it is important; is a good military. which the politicians have done a great job of screwing up as well.

for example;
- the time out card....are you serious.
- women in combat....cause that doesnt cause distraction under fire.
- going to combat in places we shouldnt be for reasons we lie about.
 
There are American products called Android, Windows, and OS X - and an ongoing mainframe operating system called unix.

America leads the world in operating systems.

Can we help it if we have a thing about operating systems?

Unlike others our constitution is an operating system and so far as I know, it was the world's first with that characteristic.
 
currently....nothing.
we have become a group of fat, lazy, sorry asses.
While ye may enjoy your comforts, its clear most of ye work hard
Some perhaps too muchso , but thats another story ;)
the men act like women and we let mexicans do our infastructure and out source the production of our products.
The best high-end products are manafatured in Western & Central Europe, the US and also Japan
The issue is the trade gap, especially if countries like China will upskilll, while keeping an unnacceptably low labour cost base
we buy everything foreign because current american made products suck.
erm I've had good and bad experiences
No comment
 
Maybe less than that.
Economicaly, and by 1920 militarilly too ;)
While Yankee ingenuity is nothing to sneeze at, given that we don't take credit for Turing, Tesla and have nothing on Irish literature I'd say that's a stretch also.
While the British Isles seems to have a hold on literature, the odd US/Canadian book I have read hasnt been bad
Every country has their geniuses, but a large pool of well skilled people is generally more effective then a small pool of highly skilled people :)
The US has both
What, asking every good nation for help in time of crisis has gone out of fashion?
Ah what I mean is that these days we (developed countries) are capable of handling issues we repeatedly face
If we are a small country, our friendly neoghbours will, and can help (UK helps Ireland, Spain helps Portugal etc)
Aside from admitting that I'd just rather believe that factoid than confirm it,
Unfortunately its true (although as I've said before /i prefer making trade fairer rather than pumping money into corrup governments)

I'd point out that perhaps we have a bit less money left for humanitarian aid after spending it on a military presence in Europe for quite some time
ah, but ye one over a quarter of the worlds economy as an ally :p
However countries like France, UK, Italy etc should have high aid budgets due to colonialism

and that was brought about by an unhappy Austrian boy intent on re-fighting a war that refought a war in the previous century and because of and an eastern peasant who replaced the largess of the czars with the stifling terror of the gulag. Knocking them back was a concerted effort including us and what is now the WEU,
the WEU got dissolved due to the LT (was gonna expire anyway) It included most of the old EU 15 so its an easy term :)
so I'm not saying anyone owes us anything, but I am saying that overall when the chips are really down, maybe we don't come too very short after all.
good point
That brings me to another thing America does very well - the carrier task force.

Whether throwing four and a half acres of Yankee protection across the world to safeguard those in harm's way or mooring offshore a troubled and ravaged nation providing an immediate floating city with food, shelter, medics and a massive surplus of electricity to aid those on shore, the US carrier task force can't be beat.

To our men and women and to all those who serve in other countries in the incessant battle against the threat of evil that is our human lot - I say thank you for the safety of peace that I treasure this fine day and that I wish you safe duty and a speedy return to your prairies, hills and harbors of home.
I love those ships :)
Shame European militaries are cutting back, the voters dont understand the need
I'd prefer to see Ireland contributing fairly to an EU military rather than leaching of the UK, but with that interest rate they offered us... well :p
 
I think this is a great post actually! Very good thinking. I like this A LOT! :)

America has done and will continue to do great wonders for society as a whole! Just because there are some minor problems here and there does not mean it will not do more awe inpsiring wonders for man kind! :)

Okay here goes:

1) Moon Landing! OH MY GOSH (nothing else much to say here because this is ABSOLUTELY FREAKINGLY amazing :) )

2) FIRST (electronic)computer to be made like 2075 / 10 for that! ( this does not include charles babbage's computer because we are talking electronic computers not mechanical here so ja )

3) AWESOME operating systems and i mean FREAKIN AWESOME...

4) Really nice people (generally speaking)! From all the USA people that I have met in real life are very nice people actually and well mannered. :)

5) HIGHLY EDUCATED PEOPLE!
Very
important (not much else to say here so ja!)

6) HARD WORKING (100000% true) Think of the great depression and how the people of the usa turned it around!! They can sure as hell do it again!!!!! ;)


The list goes on and on! I will get tired of writing all the good stuff and my arms will fall off so ja! ;)

I think the American people can sure as hell turn it around again! If the American people did it once before... (think Great Depression) they can sure as hell turn it around again!!!! AND again if they want to :) They have done it before and can do it again!

NOTE:

It's great to see a good spirited thread like this started and some people are looking on the bright side of life! :) I know i can "troll" sometimes on these forums by bad mouthing about SA but i am trying to make some people look on the bright side by how they live in a wonderful society and are fortunate people actaully! Sorry if i hurt any1's feelings too :) and sorry if this post is too long lol

Be positive because it can do wonders!!!!

Very good thread!

Regards

Stinky
 
Whew . . . Long Bob Maxey post... doesn't he ever shut up?

A few of you do not think America is capable of greatness. At least that is what I read in and among the posts. Some of you think nothing we make here is as good as the stuff we import from over there, wherever there might be. I agree and I disagree. I am old enough to remember when we did almost everything with an eye towards high quality and the words, “Made in Japan” was something entirely different. I also know we have lost a little something, so we are in a decline.

So go ahead and assume that America no longer makes good products and assume that Americans are indeed fat and lazy. I do not buy it because I know just how much we can kick ass when it comes to manufacturing consumer electronics when we have a good team manufacturing products with pride. So feel free to say it, but please consider how it once was.

If we are given a chance, if we are not hampered by asinine environmental laws (or silly lawsuits lacking merit), if we are not taxed to death, if we raise people to love America, if we kick the government out of our business, if we instill a desire to make great products, if we stop hiring incompetent workers, if we teach those worthy of training that they could one day become CEO, if we dump those that are here illegally or could not give a rat’s ass about American pride, if we decide that we can no longer afford screw around anymore, if we decide as a country that the bad quality crap must stop, and if we just get off our collective buts and get it done, no country on planet earth could stop us or compete with us in any meaningful way.

I do not buy only things made in America. For years, my cameras of choice have been Leica, Hasselblad, and for large format work, Linhoff or an Eastman Kodak wood view camera. The reason is simple: superior fit, finish, and optics. These manufacturers made some of the most amazing products available on the market and they still do. Well, except for Eastman Kodak. I used them because I wanted great results and there were no American cameras to speak of. Well, except for the handmade wood view cameras currently manufactured here in America that are every bit the equal of a Japanese view camera.

But . . .

I am equally familiar with the optics once made in Rochester New York, by the Eastman Kodak Company. 100 percent American and bloody fine quality by any standard you want to apply. Razor sharp images, accurate color, and dependable. From Eastman's view cameras to their small format roll film cameras, they were generally incredible cameras and made with perfection. By today's standards, some cameras made by Eastman --discontinued decades after most of you were born-- are still superior to those made by any Japanese manufacturer today.

I can use a vintage Kodak roll film camera and easily equal or in some cases, surpass the final print quality of anything offered by any current Japanese camera maker.

When the world was a different place and Eastman was at its best, their variety of sensitized goods (and their manufacturing capabilities and workmanship) was overwhelming and hard to believe. When I was in the retail photographic business, we routinely stocked 100+ kinds of Eastman Kodak film on a 40-50 foot long wood rack. if we needed one roll of some special film, EKCO was happy to ship it.

You are hard pressed to find a decent photography dealer with anything that could be called knowledge these days unless it is digital. We stocked a ton of film and we took pride in what we could offer.

Kodak manufactured high quality projectors for slides and movies (16mm) and the perhaps 200+ different lenses they made for dozens and dozens of different camera models they also made in Rochester. While other film and paper makers sold paper and film in the United States, the variety was limited. Agfa offered variety, buy not even close to what Eastman once offered.

Kodak also offered photographic filters numbering more than 400 different types. They published more than 2000 books and other publications they once sold or gave away. Have an unusual problem? Well, there was once a publication to help you. Not many books would be sold detailing how to make your own emulsion or binding gelatin filters in glass, but that was not what was important to Kodak. They were great at supporting customers with unique needs that by no means would significantly enhance the bottom line. Why did they bother? Well, a few people need help so Kodak bent over to help.

Kodak once manufactured a special camera for making XOGRAPHS. These were stereo prints (3D) that were great back in the day and vastly superior to any 3D printing process available today. They stocked tens of thousands of dyes and specialty chemicals, too.

Kodak offered more than a thousand chemicals devoted to photographic processing. Perhaps 200+ developers, not to mention, stop baths, a multitude of fixers and other chemicals. And that is just for black and white work; their dedication to color printing and printers was equally great and the product range equally large.

They offered hardware like tanks, reels, clips, lighting equipment, copy equipment, automated roll film printers made before most of you were born and before integrated circuits. Imagine that, consistent print quality with a completely analog system.

Kodak once offered literally hundreds of different films in hundreds of sizes. From 8mm roll stock for movie cameras, to 35mm and roll sizes, to 10 inch film in long lengths for special cameras like Cirkit and Banquet Cameras. Imagine creating a negative that measures 8 inches by 6 feet.

They offered a variety of sheet film and more than a few dozen different aerial films in many different sizes; 5 to 10 inch wide and in long lengths. They offered dozens of different glass plates and sheet films numbering more than 300 different types and sizes (2-1/4x3-1/4, 4x5, 5x7, 8x10, 11x14, 16x20, and beyond) not to mention hundreds of different motion picture film stocks.

Much of these products were kept current even though the cameras required to use the film were discontinued decades ago. And remember that film has a shelf life, so you could not stockpile the stuff and guarantee freshness unless you decided to keep manufacturing the stuff.

And that does not count the specialized films for industry, manufacturing, X-Ray use, astronomical applications; in glass plate and film, from small sizes to 11x14 and larger. Perhaps 300 materials and associated developers to address a sector of the industrial, medical, and astronomical market must professional photographers did not know existed.

They made hundreds of different papers, in dozens of different sizes, and many different surfaces. From cut paper for 3-1/2 x 5 inch prints to mural size roll stock, to packaged deckle edged paper for making greeting cards, and every size in between.

Some of these films and papers were kept available decades after the cameras that used them were long gone from the marketplace and interest in home darkrooms and small labs diminished. Kodak believed that if only a tiny number of people still used some obsolete format or material, Kodak had a responsibility to keep them supplied with film. Unthinkable to do otherwise then; unacceptable and too damaging to the bottom line today.

Kodachrome, the best color film ever made, was once available in large format sheet sizes. They also offered Kodachrome prints on poly stocks.

When you dropped off a roll of Kodachrome on a Monday (from Salt Lake City), it was picked up by Kodak, delivered to Palo Alto California, processed, and returned on Tuesday. This was not expedited service; a roll of Kodachrome cost $3.15 cents to process and that included shipping by air, next day, to and from the lab.

Only Kodak and a few independent labs could process the stuff. Kodak’s service was amazing to be sure. Offering shoddy service was unthinkable back then.

They offered the first wide-spread color printing process for prints called The Kodak Wash-Off Relief Process and later called the Dye Transfer Process. Too much of a bother today because for color prints, all you need to do is push a button to print those crappy images from a low quality digital camera (compared to film and depending upon how you define quality).

Kodak kept the film, matrix stock, transfer paper, and dyes in stock decades after the process lost favor. I never sold any DT materials.

Interesting that most photographers have never heard of the DT process and only a few die hard printers with supplies of no longer manufactured materials can navigate through the process. I am the only person in Utah capable of making images with the DT process. Certainly, not for everyone, but superior to every other color process.

There is version for motion picture printing called the Technicolor IB Process for theatrical films. The Technicolor process is amazing. I am sure everyone here has seen “Color by Technicolor” in various film credits. That was a special and extremely complicated process that required only black and white film and dyes to create extraordinary color images on the silver screen.

A gargantuan “Proudly Made in America” 35mm motion picture camera was loaded with three separate rolls of black and white film captured the scene with thousands of watts of light required because of the nature of the process. The cameras were called 3-strip cameras for a reason.

Each negative was individually processed and then, each negative was contact printed to an individual strip of matrix film. Then, each of the three strips of matrix film was dyed --one cyan, one magenta, and one yellow-- and printed in succession, in absolutely perfect register on one strip of release print stock. One huge friggin camera and six (sometimes seven) strips of film printed in perfect register to create one release print. The complicated process was the defacto standard color MP process and thousands of films were “Color by Technicolor.”

An American color process that remains to this day, the absolute best way to create color theatrical release prints if you demand ultra quality; terrible if cost is an issue and you can’t find workers that know the process. Technicolor Company learned this a few years ago when they wanted to release films made with the process and lacked the cameras required to shoot the film. Also, the technicians were dying off.

Today, Panavision is a brand that is synonymous with ultra quality motion picture cameras and it too is an American made product.

Kodak also was responsible for the huge Coloramas hanging in Grand Central Station; they are the largest photographs ever put on display on a continuous rotating basis. The smaller versions were also on actual film and sent to Kodak dealers for display. We were proud of what we could do and we proved it.

So WTF is Bob rambling on and on about cameras and film and color movies and Panavision Cameras for anyway? I mention Eastman Kodak because their view was once shared by countless other companies. Their customer’s were king and offering anything less than the company’s best was unthinkable. American pride and quality, demonstrated day after day after week after month after decade after decade. I happen to believe that it is still this way to some extent. We just do not hear success stories.

I also believe we can return to those days where made in America sends an unmistakable signal: buy this and you can be assured there is nothing finer. I long for the good old days and I am bothered when we are thought of as second or fifth rate when I know what we can do if we are cut loose and allowed to create and prosper. If you doubt it, simply read a few history books.

We can dominate, innovate, and prosper in ways many youngsters have never experienced. Someone on the list mentioned we are tops in software but lag behind in hardware. Perhaps this is so, but not in every case. If we wanted to, however, we could rule the hardware end as well. And we would do it cheaper and better, too. Again, history proves this is possible and my experience building Palm Pilots confirms it.

Eastman was but one company in the United States that did it big, and they were proud of what they offered. The important thing for some of you to take away is this: quality was the American standard and that is how it simply had to be. Not unusual, not out of the ordinary, just the way we did it. We can do it again.

When we decide that we want to do something and we have the will of the people, forget any other country and what they can do. We can do it far better, far cheaper, far faster, and we will offer hundreds of different versions of the product, whatever the product may be.

We need a John Kennedy style Moon Landing approach to manufacturing. He said we would put a man on the moon in ten years and by God, we did it. He did not say we should try, or perhaps it would be cool if we did it. He told us we would do it and we did it. I think Obama does not get it and the last thing he wants is more industry requiring competent workers with a blinding pride in America.

Merry Christmas everyone I hope your houses survived all of those cheap imported strings of lights. Mine were made in 1952 in Ohio and most of the heavy glass bulbs are still shiny and bright. American Made.

Bob Maxey
 
Merry Christmas everyone I hope your houses survived all of those cheap imported strings of lights. Mine were made in 1952 in Ohio and most of the heavy glass bulbs are still shiny and bright. American Made.
I remember those lights. Remember growing up watching the news about the many houses burnt down because of those lights. If you use almost 60 years old light strings more power to ya. I just hope you have real good fire insurance when those lights shorts out and catches fire. Its not a matter of if, but when.

Christmas lights was never an item that was made to last.
 
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