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Barats

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Where exactly does it go on your phone? For instance, I'm about to flash the new MikFroyo rom. I know you put the zip on your sd card and after you flash, you can delete. But where does it store in your phone, along with all the other items you flash?

Just want to try and clean up my phone of any un needed stuff.

Thanks
 
Where exactly does it go on your phone? For instance, I'm about to flash the new MikFroyo rom. I know you put the zip on your sd card and after you flash, you can delete. But where does it store in your phone, along with all the other items you flash?

Just want to try and clean up my phone of any un needed stuff.

Thanks

It, I believe, is stored in the ROM on your phone(Read only memory). If you wipe everything then you are cleaning out the memory on your phone.
 
I believe it replaces particular files. In the case of a ROM (and I could be wrong) it would over write the /system files or /etc...
 
wait so once you flash a rom, you can acutally go into your sd card and delete the zip file? So when you back up a nanodroid your phone can still back up to a ROM that is no longer on your sd card?

is it normal to flash a ROM then delete the zip from your memory card?
 
wait so once you flash a rom, you can acutally go into your sd card and delete the zip file? So when you back up a nanodroid your phone can still back up to a ROM that is no longer on your sd card?

is it normal to flash a ROM then delete the zip from your memory card?

yes
yes

and personal preference
 
The zip file you flash writes everything to boot system data cache. What you usually back up when you make a back up.
 
so dumb noob question. How many ROMS can your phone hold before it gets full? and if it gets full then what? I always thought you had to keep the zip on your sd card.

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Your phone doesn't hold any roms but the one you have. You make a back up to your sd card. Wipe the phone and flash a new one...so it depends on your sd card.
 
So where would one go to look at all the backups on the SD card? If I want to clean my SD card, what file would I not want to delete?
 
So where would one go to look at all the backups on the SD card? If I want to clean my SD card, what file would I not want to delete?

Depends on your recovery if on clockwork it in the clockwork folder if on amon ra it's in nandroid.
 
So where would one go to look at all the backups on the SD card? If I want to clean my SD card, what file would I not want to delete?
ASTRO FILE MANAGER
This app will allow you to basically see everything thats on your SD card and delete if you want. You can also use it to unzip files, for instance if you download a zip file from a music web site, you would use Astro to unzip it. Everything thats been downloaded is in the download folder. Also long press on items in Astro for more options. You can also view nandroids in Rom Manger.
 
ASTRO FILE MANAGER
This app will allow you to basically see everything thats on your SD card and delete if you want. You can also use it to unzip files, for instance if you download a zip file from a music web site, you would use Astro to unzip it. Everything thats been downloaded is in the download folder. Also long press on items in Astro for more options. You can also view nandroids in Rom Manger.

Yeah I have Astro, but was just curious what files I should keep. I see above that if I am using clockwork (which I am) that my nands are in there.
 
I havent messed with restoring nandroid, so I can't give advice on that. I usually keep the top two zipped ROMS on my sd card for easy flashing, and less clutter. I would just use caution and be sure you know what you are deleting, not that you couldn't reflash and reinstall everything. I cleaned up old app folders and game folders that I knew weren't on the phone anymore and unused Roms.
 
ASTRO FILE MANAGER
This app will allow you to basically see everything thats on your SD card and delete if you want. You can also use it to unzip files, for instance if you download a zip file from a music web site, you would use Astro to unzip it. Everything thats been downloaded is in the download folder. Also long press on items in Astro for more options. You can also view nandroids in Rom Manger.

There is also es file explorer and root explorer both of which I actually prefer to astro.
 
Thanks guys! This board never fails to come through.

I am going to go through later today and see what can be deleted. Got to spring clean the Evo you could say, lol.
 
Just remember this - flashable zips are packages used for writing to the system. System files exist in /system, and files it needs to boot exist in a boot.img. These things exist on your internal storage. A ROM is basically the OS, and everything it needs to boot and run. When you flash a ROM, you're taking files out a zip file and copying them to internal storage to replace whatever was there before (it wipes it out, first). Once that is done, the flashable zip is no longer used. It uses it once, then you can get rid of it if you want. Some people like to keep them around, though, because it's an easy way to fix certain problems. Say, for example, your ROM breaks some how. You can reflash the ROM, without wiping data, and you should be able to boot up again without losing apps or settings (mods will get wiped out).

Backups are entirely different. A nandroid backup is a bit for bit copy of all files on all internal partitions (or whichever ones you select). Once a backup is made, the system doesn't use it for anything. It's just in storage. When you need to restore a backup, it overwrites internal partitions with the contents of the backup. It's kind of like flashing a ROM, but in a completely different methods, and it includes much more (data, for example).

That being said, the system will only ever use system files on internal storage. It does not use anything you may have on the sdcard such as flashable zips or backups. They exist only as "copies" of things that belong on internal storage.
 
Just remember this - flashable zips are packages used for writing to the system. System files exist in /system, and files it needs to boot exist in a boot.img. These things exist on your internal storage. A ROM is basically the OS, and everything it needs to boot and run. When you flash a ROM, you're taking files out a zip file and copying them to internal storage to replace whatever was there before (it wipes it out, first). Once that is done, the flashable zip is no longer used. It uses it once, then you can get rid of it if you want. Some people like to keep them around, though, because it's an easy way to fix certain problems. Say, for example, your ROM breaks some how. You can reflash the ROM, without wiping data, and you should be able to boot up again without losing apps or settings (mods will get wiped out).

Backups are entirely different. A nandroid backup is a bit for bit copy of all files on all internal partitions (or whichever ones you select). Once a backup is made, the system doesn't use it for anything. It's just in storage. When you need to restore a backup, it overwrites internal partitions with the contents of the backup. It's kind of like flashing a ROM, but in a completely different methods, and it includes much more (data, for example).

That being said, the system will only ever use system files on internal storage. It does not use anything you may have on the sdcard such as flashable zips or backups. They exist only as "copies" of things that belong on internal storage.

Many, many thanks for this explanation! I was about to ask this very question.
 
Just remember this - flashable zips are packages used for writing to the system. System files exist in /system, and files it needs to boot exist in a boot.img. These things exist on your internal storage. A ROM is basically the OS, and everything it needs to boot and run. When you flash a ROM, you're taking files out a zip file and copying them to internal storage to replace whatever was there before (it wipes it out, first). Once that is done, the flashable zip is no longer used. It uses it once, then you can get rid of it if you want. Some people like to keep them around, though, because it's an easy way to fix certain problems. Say, for example, your ROM breaks some how. You can reflash the ROM, without wiping data, and you should be able to boot up again without losing apps or settings (mods will get wiped out).

Backups are entirely different. A nandroid backup is a bit for bit copy of all files on all internal partitions (or whichever ones you select). Once a backup is made, the system doesn't use it for anything. It's just in storage. When you need to restore a backup, it overwrites internal partitions with the contents of the backup. It's kind of like flashing a ROM, but in a completely different methods, and it includes much more (data, for example).

That being said, the system will only ever use system files on internal storage. It does not use anything you may have on the sdcard such as flashable zips or backups. They exist only as "copies" of things that belong on internal storage.

Someone give this guy a job with google!
 
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