Why is illegal immigration bad?

[infil]

Stinky, I absolutely agree with there being good apples mixed in with the bad. Same thing as Islam, there is a vocal minority of jackasses who tend to ruin it for everyone.

My families needs do not discriminate between a good or bad ILLEGAL immigrant. They all drain our economy, in a number of ways, either milking out the system, sending their money home etc.

If the people are that good, they can apply for citizenship and do things the right way. Its a long process but if its that worth it, than they'll do what they have to do or face the consequences of breaking the law.

 

[Member243850]

Yes i totally agree my friend...

But sadly in the South African and Zimbabwe saga.... it happened so quickly that there was simply no time for legal papers etc... millions poored into south africa over night.... both good and bad...I understand what you mean though

In south africa there's sooo much coruption that i have to leave for the fear of same thing happening in Zimbabwe with white farmers being murdered for being white....

There is a hell of a lot of racism occuring in South Africa still to this day sadly... i fear for my life here

 

[JAL]

Do you honestly believe that there are no negative impacts on society due to a massive amount of people entering the country illegally?

I find discussion on illegal immigration to be a better cause for conversation/possible concern than paris hilton being in possession of cocaine..

While there is racist views out the fact is illegal immigration does have an impact.

I do think at the moment everything discussed has some degree of validity and is very important.

IE. If Immigrants are working *and* paying income tax due to using someone elses social.

What is to stop them from spending on the persons social.

If they are being paid under the table what about the fact they aren't paying social security?

If they aren't being paid minimum wage they are giving one company an advantage over another.

It affects us all in some way or another. I would like solid evidence illigal immigration has no effect. No matter who is right/wrong in this thread.. it ultimately *ALL* has an effect :/

How do you spend on someone's social?

 

[byteware]

As i said above, do those people deserve to be incarcerated in our justice system? One of the nicest in the world? I dont think so. Why do I want to support assholes like that, Bullets are cheap and plentiful.

You will spend more supporting them on Death Row, then you would if you incarcerated them for life.

And as far as deporting them for their crimes, well, it seems at least one of them was already deported 4 times... I don't think that would help.

 

[byteware]

How do you spend on someone's social?

Open a credit card account with someone's social security number, and then spend on that account. The person who owns the social security number gets blamed for the debt, and you don't owe a darned thing.

 

[ElasticNinja]

Open a credit card account with someone's social security number, and then spend on that account. The person who owns the social security number gets blamed for the debt, and you don't owe a darned thing.

Really?

 

[byteware]

Really?

Identity theft isn't only an illegal immigration problem, but it IS a problem that goes hand in hand with illegal immigration.

 

[infil]

You will spend more supporting them on Death Row, then you would if you incarcerated them for life.

And as far as deporting them for their crimes, well, it seems at least one of them was already deported 4 times... I don't think that would help.

You misunderstood me. I never said incarcerate them on death row...summarily execute em. Harsh? yeah, Extreme? definitely. Strong deterrant? I'd like to think so.

 

[byteware]

You misunderstood me. I never said incarcerate them on death row...summarily execute em. Harsh? yeah, Extreme? definitely. Strong deterrant? I'd like to think so.

With one exception, we have a lot of protections in this country to prevent the execution of innocents. They are there for a reason and should not be circumvented.

And it really wouldn't deter as many people as you think. Especially since they are tunneling under the border to provide hidden passage into the country.

 

[Deleted User]

Illegal will ALWAYS be illegal. It's called breaking the law and eventually results in a breakdown of society. But these poor souls are pawns of our congressmen. If you want to "fix" it .... then fix congress first who have always ranked high in law breaking.

 

[ElasticNinja]

You misunderstood me. I never said incarcerate them on death row...summarily execute em. Harsh? yeah, Extreme? definitely. Strong deterrant? I'd like to think so.

*cough* Nazi Germany *cough*

 

[savoxis]

You misunderstood me. I never said incarcerate them on death row...summarily execute em. Harsh? yeah, Extreme? definitely. Strong deterrant? I'd like to think so.

Yeah those natives should have nipped they're problem right in the bud and tried harder to stop all those angalo assholes from immigrating back in the 1700s.

As a country we have had very open immigration policies since our inception. Why close the boarders now?

Immigrant labour comprises of a very small niche in our economy, as it stands we spend far more trying to induce harsh policies and deportations than we are losing by paying these cheap laborers. Besides the fact I do not know a single american that will work for 2 dollars an hour picking fruit.

 

[byteware]

Yeah those natives should have nipped they're problem right in the bud and tried harder to stop all those angalo assholes from immigrating back in the 1700s.

I'm sure you meant 1500's

As a country we have had very open immigration policies since our inception. Why close the boarders now?

No we haven't. Over the last 100 years or so, we've had a fairly strict immigration policy. Do a little research on Ellis Island. That should give you some more information on the subject.

Immigrant labour comprises of a very small niche in our economy, as it stands we spend far more trying to induce harsh policies and deportations than we are losing by paying these cheap laborers. Besides the fact I do not know a single american that will work for 2 dollars an hour picking fruit.

You aren't very informed on this topic, or it's history for that matter.

There are estimated 12 million Illegal immigrants in this country. There is an estimated workforce of about 150 million. Illegal immigrant labor is about 10 % the size of our legal work force. That's not a niche. That's a significant portion of our economy.

Secondly, immigrants aren't paid 2 dollars an hour. They are paid by the fruit picked. FYI, their pay is illegal as well, as is the way that they are treated in the fields. Anyone who supports this, doesn't know a darn thing about it. Yes, it's better than where they came from. That's no excuse for how poorly we treat them. We live by OUR standards, not Mexico's.