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Would you give up Quad Core CPU For LTE "or" LTE for Quad Core???

While I can agree that anything beyond 10 Mbps is kind of a waste, I'd prefer the carriers push the limits as much as they can. The more people on the network in a specific area the slower things go.
This basically. The move to LTE is so carriers can keep up with the growing number of subscribers that use data. I've used 3G networks that are extremely congested and it's not pretty. I got disconnected every 5 minutes and the connection was only a little bit faster than 56K dial-up (70~80Kbps).

Ultimately, what the carriers are selling is service and not a device. Would you choose a carrier offering fast quad-core phones but give you crappy service, frequent dropped calls, text messages that are 1-2 days delayed and internet connection speeds that are only good for browsing WAP sites?
 
But that's not the point I was trying to make. I was trying to state that having to give up a quad-core phone in favor of a dual core, just to have LTE, is really a backwards way of doing things.

Removing a quad with 4 ARM Cortex A9 cores in favor of a dual with two Krait cores (basically - A15 class, performance-wise) may not be the step backwards that the blogosphere loves to say that it is.

Drawing conclusions on quad vs dual without all of the factors considered is like comparing a V8 engine with a V6 without considering fuel intake, displacement, horsepower or torque.

And if you still don't believe that, you can always buy the quad from an international source and get it going 3G and sometimes a bit more on our GSM carriers.

I think most people would do very well to ignore the blogosphere, get the supported and fully functional S4 dual core on the carrier of their choice and marvel at having a phone that's basically faster than you and faster than anything you imagined before. And then, plus on top of that, get LTE because it's there.

But - that's just me.

But this isn't just me - the idea that present quad cores are above the S4 dual because of unwashed blogs claims is basically nonsense.

The present quads seem to offer GPU advantages, good for gamers, over the S4. That doesn't affect the UI or videos because the modern cores don't use the GPU for that, they have other cores for that job (among which, the S4's are top notch).

So, if you're a gamer wanting a little more GPU horsepower, fine, but if you're thinking quad vs dual CPUs is a slam dunk, you're in for a disappointment. For every task that one does better than the other, the opposite example exists.
 
And if you still don't believe that, you can always buy the quad from an international source and get it going 3G and sometimes a bit more on our GSM carriers.

I think most people would do very well to ignore the blogosphere, get the supported and fully functional S4 dual core on the carrier of their choice and marvel at having a phone that's basically faster than you and faster than anything you imagined before. And then, plus on top of that, get LTE because it's there.

But - that's just me.

But this isn't just me - the idea that present quad cores are above the S4 dual because of unwashed blogs claims is basically nonsense.
Really, there's an S4 already? I thought the S3 was just announced. :p

Kidding aside, we don't even know if the US GSM versions of the Galaxy S3 will have LTE or not. For all we know, it may be the same as the HSPA models available internationally.

Yeah, Verizon is sure to have an LTE model. Not sure why anyone would complain about that given from my experience, Verizon's EV-DO 3G network is as slow as molasses. An earlier poster is quite right in saying it's comparable to EDGE.
 
It seems like everyone is talking in circles.

The gist of what most sort of agree on is: LTE is at least mildly pointless if you're not on an unlimited data plan and/or a CDMA carrier. There are exceptions, but for the most part, the big focus on LTE in America is perhaps stifling the growth of other mobile technology factors that might have more of a useful affect on our phone experience.

I'll have to say I agree with this notion.
 
There are exceptions, but for the most part, the big focus on LTE in America is perhaps stifling the growth of other mobile technology factors that might have more of a useful affect on our phone experience.

I'll have to say I agree with this notion.

Wait...you think LTE is stifling other mobile technology? How so?
 
It seems like everyone is talking in circles.

The gist of what most sort of agree on is: LTE is at least mildly pointless if you're not on an unlimited data plan and/or a CDMA carrier. There are exceptions, but for the most part, the big focus on LTE in America is perhaps stifling the growth of other mobile technology factors that might have more of a useful affect on our phone experience.

I'll have to say I agree with this notion.
There's only one person (the OP) who thinks LTE is pointless. Two if you include yourself. While a lot of folks do think speeds in excess of 10Mbps per user is unnecessary on a phone, I think most recognize that this move made by carriers is to help alleviate network congestion and aside from the OP and yourself, I don't think I saw another post that would prefer quad-core with 3G over dual-core with LTE. Smartphone adoption in the US is already over 50% (likely due to the free smartphones with 2-year contracts). A lot of 3G networks are getting quite congested. Carriers (well, Verizon and AT&T primarily since they have the most subscribers) need to move to LTE or they won't be able to cope when the remainder of their customers switch to smartphones.
 
Really, there's an S4 already? I thought the S3 was just announced. :p

Kidding aside, we don't even know if the US GSM versions of the Galaxy S3 will have LTE or not. For all we know, it may be the same as the HSPA models available internationally.

Yeah, Verizon is sure to have an LTE model. Not sure why anyone would complain about that given from my experience, Verizon's EV-DO 3G network is as slow as molasses. An earlier poster is quite right in saying it's comparable to EDGE.

:facepalm:

I've been spending so much time in the CDMA forums, I totally overlooked the obvious. :D

Excellent catch my friend. :)

So, yeah, duh - mileage will vary by US carrier. ;)
 
I never said there was something wrong with using more data compared to before. I do all those stuff I've mentioned on my smartphone (including the occasional Skype video call - funnily enough, 3G is faster than Wi-Fi in parts of the house that are far from the router). Back when I only had EDGE, my smartphone use was limited to reading text-only websites and downloading 300~500KB ebooks.

Ok that was then. Now we are able to do more and do it much faster. Yes with 3g we would survive , but with LTE it's just that much better.
 
Ok that was then. Now we are able to do more and do it much faster. Yes with 3g we would survive , but with LTE it's just that much better.
Actually, what I was trying to point out is that faster connections can help change consumer behavior so while someone on 3G might just be using 500MB-1GB per month, it's quite possible that they may start using more data when they switch to 4G LTE. For one thing, so far LTE has been faster compared to all of the public WiFi hotspots I've used. I don't even bother looking for free WiFi hotspots anymore because the cellular network is bound to be faster (and probably more secure). Before, I limited app downloads/updates to WiFi. Now with LTE being as fast as the home cable connection, I just update over LTE. 720p over cellular networks is also feasible now which is pretty nice for short video clips (alas, not so much for Netflix if you're on tiered data). Cloud storage also becomes more feasible. Lower latency is also great. I frequently get ping times over 200ms with 3G, sometimes even as bad as 600ms. This really makes web browsing feel unresponsive. With LTE, I get under 20ms ping which make me more inclined to browse more.

Granted, we do need more generous bandwidth caps but it's not like the 2GB-3GB for $30 on most plans is completely unusable.
 
I have had the crappy slow phones, and I have had the nice new blazing fast phones...give me the fast blazing phones any day of the week.
 
If 4g is a waste then why was 3g developed instead of sticking to 2g? If LTE is a waste then quad core is waste of power... I believe that until my computer runs on at least 50 cores, which is unrealistic, my phone should have only 2 cores tops

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I can't wait for a 4g phone. Right now I'm using a DX2 with CM7. I just ran a speedtest for my 3g connection and my ping is 108, DL 301 kbps, UPLOAD 519 kbps

What a joke...
 
I can't wait for a 4g phone. Right now I'm using a DX2 with CM7. I just ran a speedtest for my 3g connection and my ping is 108, DL 301 kbps, UPLOAD 519 kbps
On Verizon LTE here. After just a month of use, I'm now getting just 10Mbps down and 0.5Mbps up when I used to get as high 20Mbps both ways (at work). I still get pretty high speeds at home (15Mbps down/10Mbps up) but the only time I would use it is when power is down or when there's something wrong with the cable internet. Guess LTE is starting to become saturated, too.
 
On Verizon LTE here. After just a month of use, I'm now getting just 10Mbps down and 0.5Mbps up when I used to get as high 20Mbps both ways (at work). I still get pretty high speeds at home (15Mbps down/10Mbps up) but the only time I would use it is when power is down or when there's something wrong with the cable internet. Guess LTE is starting to become saturated, too.

Weird in my area (New Orleans ) my LTE speeds have increased since getting my razr back in December.
 
Weird in my area (New Orleans ) my LTE speeds have increased since getting my razr back in December.
Perhaps there's just more Verizon LTE users or heavy data users in my area (Los Angeles). This is a shared resource so of course, speed and quality of service depends on how many users there are and how much bandwidth they're using.
 
What about the dual-core Qualcomm/Scorpion (1.5 GHz) HSPA+42 in my T989?
How does this compare to LTE, I wonder...?
 
The,reason the dual core s4 actually beats the tegra 3 in some benchmarks is that its architecture is similar to the ARM a15. Tegra 3 and exynos are both based on the aged arm a9. With the a15 quads just around the corner, hopefully this will soon become academic for you guys.

We don't have LTE in the UK.so its not an issue. However the s3 CPU has really been a letdown for me
 
Welcome to the forums, Space Ghost!

I've merged your thread with a similar one.

"Optimized for quad core" is the latest urban myth.

Android is Linux, Linux has supported multiple cores for quite some time.

To take advantage of additional cores, there must be sufficient subprocesses that can run in parallel. It's common to have that between the operating system and your apps for dual cores. It's less common as the number of cores increases.

Synthetic benchmarks lie - they don't relate to the real world.

See earlier posts in this thread for other opinions. ;) :)
 
What about the dual-core Qualcomm/Scorpion (1.5 GHz) HSPA+42 in my T989?
How does this compare to LTE, I wonder...?

That's a Qualcomm S3. The newer S4 does much more per clock cycle, does it higher power efficiency, includes a gpu upgrade, and has a programmable world modem so it can be used on any network in the world without needing additional modem chip, thereby saving even more power. (You still need separate radio chips, the processors never contain those.)

A phone with a Qualcomm S4 would be a definite upgrade to your phone. But whether or not you need the extra performance is a personal choice.

And by the way -

It's not that LTE won't play with quads, it's that it's neither cost effective nor power efficient to do it that way.
 
I'm simple I just want the phone to work the way I want it, when I want it. I have a 4g phone but not a 4g area. LTE I guess we'll get that one day but who knows when. As far as processor its as simple as my first statement. If it is single core, dual core, quad core I could really care less as long as it lets me do what I need and want to do.
 
I'm simple I just want the phone to work the way I want it, when I want it. I have a 4g phone but not a 4g area. LTE I guess we'll get that one day but who knows when. As far as processor its as simple as my first statement. If it is single core, dual core, quad core I could really care less as long as it lets me do what I need and want to do.

This is a great way of putting it. My laptop is an absolute POS (paid more for my TF Prime!), but it does everything I need which is essentially just web browsing. My OG Droid did nearly everything for me when I had it. My NColor didn't really hold up long on CM7. Tab 10.1 wasn't all that great aside from watching movies. Now I'm on a Bionic and Nexus which is both LTE and Dual Core. Both perform just fine. I love having LTE for simply web browsing, but streaming any media is great! Only quad core I've used is my Prime, and while it blows away any other tablet I've used, I think I'd much rather have something that may stutter occasionally, but still have a fast internet connection. :)
 
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