I understand. Everything I tell you guys to try is perfectly safe, and once we get to the point of flashing unknown things that's when I'll give you the warning. Right now we're just sending commands in different environments trying to get access to system as read write so someone can push su straight to the phone with adb. And no we don't have a stock firmware that's something else that's hindering progress. If we had a stock firmware yes we could do a few things to get root at that point, and I found a way to flash image files and stuff through dfu mode about 20 minutes ago so that won't give any objection to what we flash it's like Odin in a way. And like you said we have EDL mode as well to try. So many possibilities since yesterday but we need just one thing for them all lol