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Looks like it covers all the bases too. The wife will be very happy!
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Evo 4G vs Epic 4G
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Looks like it covers all the bases too. The wife will be very happy!
Hello guys!
I am looking for some help figuring out a few problems with Evo. My wife and I are trying out both Evo and Epic using 1 month trial. I love most of the features on Evo, but the screen color, resolution & contrast is pathetic, especially when compared to Epic. Do you guys feel the same, or am I missing something here? (like any setting/firmware upgrade to fix this) Also, even though Evo has 8mp camera vs 5mp for epic, the video quality is poor for fast moving objects.
I don't need the slide out keyboard on Epic, it makes the phone quite thicker, but might end up keeping Epic because of these Evo drawbacks.
I am looking for some help figuring out a few problems with Evo. My wife and I are trying out both Evo and Epic using 1 month trial. I love most of the features on Evo, but the screen color, resolution & contrast is pathetic, especially when compared to Epic. Do you guys feel the same, or am I missing something here? (like any setting/firmware upgrade to fix this) Also, even though Evo has 8mp camera vs 5mp for epic, the video quality is poor for fast moving objects.
I don't need the slide out keyboard on Epic, it makes the phone quite thicker, but might end up keeping Epic because of these Evo drawbacks.
toomuchgame441
Android Expert
I have noticed that the Evo's video quality is pretty poor, I mean it gets the job done but I think my Hero shot comparable video quality if not better sometimes
IOWA
Mr. Logic Pants
Guess I dont need tell you, but your absolutely right, they did skip 1.6, oops. I think thats the second time I relayed that misconception.
I wholeheartedly understand anyones preference of Epic over Evo or vice versa. Whats an issue for some may not be for others. I personally really want/need good gps and reception so any potential issues with these will make me steer clear of that device.
Just for reference I took this snap a couple of weekends ago with Earth. I routinely use it to find trails and things that arent otherwise visible. In this case I sent the pic to another group that was comming in early AM in order to locate where we were at. Not that it was really neccessary at the time, but it was cool to be able to do.
I was on the fringe of cell coverage as it was, so if my gps was funky and/or my device didnt get as good reception this wouldnt have been possible.
If you really need the super reliability of a GPS receiver/device, I STILL say just get a stand alone device. But even still, if you feel HTC's GPS is better(which all indications DO show that BTW) then the EVO is the superphone for YOU. Awesome!
How I really don't need GPS insta-locks like that on my PHONE, so my considerations and calculations are different than yours, and as is the same from everyone else.
We need to buy what fits US.
toomuchgame441
Android Expert
I still wouldn't give up my Evo for the Epic even though I was deadset on getting an Epic when I heard about. Evo is just more my style, I really the screen. I've seen it next to an Epic and I know the Epic has a better resolution I just love the huge gorgeous screen on my Evo. I like the hardware, I like the attention it gets when I whip it out... Even though the cameras can be better, I've captured some great photos on my Evo. Web browsing is just a joy... Although Android has thousands of great apps, my favorite for now is the stock Browser, I spend most of my time on my Evo in this area.
Evo just does everything I need it to do and then some. Can't wait for the future updates this powerful device will get.
Evo just does everything I need it to do and then some. Can't wait for the future updates this powerful device will get.
hehe... that's a horrible example.
1- you don't have a great gps lock there- the evo does seem to lock better than the epic, but it can get a mediocre lock like that outdoors, clear sky, no problemo. ;D
2- 3 bars ain't fringe cell coverage.
fwiw, i've got both a epic (came from palm pre) and a evo (came from htc hero) in front of me.
Not a very good assessment there. Google Earth's reticle doesnt get any better than that, i.e it doesnt get smaller or disappear to indicate the theoretical accuracy as in maps or other apps. Besides that, while it isnt obvious in the sat view, this is in a modest canyon with limited azimuth so the device must be able to efficiently use whats available. I wouldnt call it heavy foliage there, however it was post thunderstorms so overall conditions werent the most optimal.
As far as signal, yeah looks pretty good there at the time, though having traversed many areas of that river and the surounding areas, that is really the exception as opposed to the rule. I do know that other devices Ive had with less than stellar reception do not work well in this area. Im not saying that the Epics reception is a problem, but some users have reported its not as good as other devices to the point of where one works and the other doesn't, not just referring to the signal meter.
Okay, I pulled the trigger yesterday and got the EVO!! I am just thrilled with it. The screen is gorgeous and this thing is fast. Love it! My 17-year-old son went in to get the Epic (he really wanted a slide-out keyboard) but opted for the new Transform. He thought the Epic was just too big for him and the Transform was a better fit for him.
So here we are acting like little kids on Christmas morning playing with our new Android phones!
EVO FTW!!!!
So here we are acting like little kids on Christmas morning playing with our new Android phones!
EVO FTW!!!!
IOWA
Mr. Logic Pants
Gratz
I agree with you 100%, and not just because the Evo's battery life is terrible when using gps. I have the garmin quest 2 for the FJC and dont use it nearly as much as I expected to.
That being said the cool factor of being able to text your lat/lon and send a sat pic of your location is just off the charts! While not truly practical in a lot of situations where portable gps is needed, Google Earth beats the socks off any map based device for pure fun and exploration factor, assuming you have a data connection.
The Epic is a hell of a piece of hardware which I want/wanted, I was just really dissappointed to find out it had problems in areas I consider crucial. I'm still hoping for a fix but not really too optimistic about it as Samsung seemingly has brushed over similar (but apparantly different) issues on the rest of the Galaxy line with a gps optimization update that didnt address the real problems. I draw this conclusion from info posted by others seemingly knowledgeable in the field.
JunBringer
Android Expert
Why get a notes app when you can get the post it note widget!?
Also you can get Swype on Evo very easily.
Just FYI
even so, the circle that it indicates is easily within what the epic shows under a clear sky. ;D
with the 2 phones side by side, i'm not noticing an appreciable difference.
JunBringer
Android Expert
Yeah I wouldn't let my kid or wife/whatever buy a sub par smartphone again. I let my girlfriend buy the Moment on Evo launch day because she wanted one with a keyboard that was cheaper. Next time I'll pay the difference so that she gets a good phone.
IOWA
Mr. Logic Pants
I had the mogul, TP, and TP2 as well. The charging port failures, that hit all three phones within 8-12 months. But to be fair, that WAS mini usb.
Luckily, I didn't have the mogul "white spot" issue. My original TP keyboard failed after 1.5 years of extremely heavy use, but that's alright, I abused the shit out of it.
My TP2 died early, cracked the screen with a bowling ball >.<
I think it's funny how some people come in here, with little history of HTC devices, and proclaim "it has this and better support and that", when in reality, they have little or no experience with previous HTC devices.
yeah the fascinate is nice.... my friend has one.
i got the epic and i find my self not using the keyboard because the 4 inch screen is great. sometimes i swype sometimes i dont. its a big change (i used an eris before) i have both sprint and a local cdma carrier.
I also had the Samsung i300, i330
PPC 6700 (I know UT Starcomm and not HTC),
HTC Touch Pro,
I currently use a Droid Eris and Epic
while selling a lot of HTC Moguls, Touch, HTC Touch Diamond, Droid Eris, Hero, Incredible, and Evos
When I saw a friend's fascinate... I finally decided to get a Galaxy S line phone for myself.
I love the HTC Development... but I'm tired of these Taiwanese phones.
HTC seems to be the leading manufacturer for Android handsets but I was waiting for an alternative that I can honestly say, hey this is a great alternative to the iPhone.
The samsung galaxy s line and the sony x10 is just that (even if the development and technical specs are not as great as htc)
I disliked HTC for the battery life. <- I NEVER had an HTC with good battery life.
I was hoping Samsung would be different but my Epic has died fast too.
I come across a lot of preowned Evos and I've seen some of them have like uneven backlight and other things.
Overall I trust Samsung is great in display technologies and I am happy with it. I do see the spaced out AMOLED but it's just vibrants flows well.
A problem with the epic is that it is extremely sensitive with the type of microUSB cables, no biggy if you use the OEM cable.
I liked the idea of having the keyboard but I find that I don't use it.
Does it seem a bit cheapy? Yes and No. Same as when I got the HTC Touch Pro. It had a plastic feel but it had a good look. Pick up a Verizon Galaxy S.... it's solid.
Camera.... I don't care how many megapixels it is. I hated HTC Cameras. I wouldn't dare use my Touch Pro camera unless I absolutely needed to. The Eris is not spectacular and is very slow. The Evos I sold and played with was... ok.
As for the Epic... finally a camera that is satisfactory for my mobile uploads.
GPS.... Yes the Samsung Epic fails at this. Will they fix this in the future? We'll see.
I won't argue because in this forum epecially, we will see a lot of praise for the Evo. In the community the Evo has a lot more marketing and is more familiar than the epic.
From a personal standpoint, I guess I am just tired of HTC (Believe me seeing a lot of problems with preowned HTC Phones)
PS I've seen a lot of problems with samsung phones too.... im hoping to see that this galaxy s line is different.
My keyboard on my Touch Pro failed after a couple of years of light use. (Though I did dropped it a couple times)
HTC has a huge programming community. On the hardware side.... it's okayMaybe they'll step up their game with more manufacturers entering the market and now that they have a lot more money coming in.
i've been waiting for a good alternative. samsung is great for now.
the only other phone ive been keeping my eye on is the sony ericson x10 but that's GSM and uses 1.6
In all fairness, there is a difference between support and mfg quality, at least from my perspective. It sucks when devices break for whatever reason, and I dont think anyone here is praising HTC's quality control. Ive been lucky in that regard, not having the physical problems that some have, though wasn't particularily happy with having to track down and deal with the EVO's rebooting problem early on.
I think most are who claim support are basing it as I do as to how well the mfg/carrier are updating the devices to enhance useability as well as fix issues. Android's rapid evolution has made it easier to do this, however, it is still up to the mfg to implement it. If Samsung has done a better job than HTC at this then I suppose I'm just talking outta my rear and your above statement nails it. This refers to the generations of Android devices of which is the totality of what anyone is really considering in this forum.
*** AND TO ADD, Just got the new MR for the Hero that fixes the dialer lag and some other issues, and the bonus is that root still works. Yes its a been a long time comming. This phone is a fricken year old and HTC still hasnt abandoned it. Say/think what you will, but this is a pretty damn bold statement of commitment by HTC.
Ok well while at the mall today, i stopped by the Sprint kiosk and guess what, played with both phones. This whole SAMOLED thing needs to go away, because the difference simply isn't that big. I'm not going to deny that there is a difference but it was so minuscule that i discounted it. I didn't really have time time to mess with the processors, but i mean are you going to play full games on your phone. I mean full RPGs? The only thing that would play a deciding role in the decision would be the physical keyboard which is actually very nice in my opinion. Brands play no role because in reality, your not getting the full experience of your phone without rooting it, and once you do that the developers are your providers. What i'm saying in a nutshell is that both are great, and i picked the EVO because i like the all touch screen form factor. Thanks for reading
The epic has superior sensors compared to the evo and video is especially better. As far as the display that is the biggest selling point of the epic and there really isnt anything on the market comparable to it. As far as what vids and pictures look like the best comparision is to view them on your pc or tv to see if they satisfy you as most likely they will end up being stored for viewing on another media device. As far as still shots the evo shouldnt be much too behind the epic in fair lighting conditions. By all reports, in low light situations the Epic (and some other high end devices) do a better job, sometimes much better. Video, pretty much hands down Epic from what Ive seen.
*** Do make sure that you have your settings correct as far as resolution and video encoding to ensure you are actually receiving the best from your evo. Apps like vignette will enhance the camera (but of course dont improve the hardware)
dbpaddler
Android Expert
I used both phones with google nav coming home from the shore over the summer and they both kept the little circle around the icon. Both performed the same and neither ditched the circle at any time of the 2hr trip. I saw no appreciable difference in rerouting times and such either as I made a bunch of detours.
dbpaddler
Android Expert
that lag was one of the main reasons all my reps returned the hero. You call it not abandoning it, I call it too little too late. Basic phone functionality and for almost a year you have to treat the dialer with kid gloves. We all have misdialed, hung up on people and such with the Hero. I at least had a few people who have stuck it out with the Moment which isn't really a "joy" either, but it's been more usable for them.
And in all fairness, the galaxy phones are the first ones for Samsung that actually span carriers and countries. All the others were pretty much one offs with no rhyme or reason among them. Behold (II) with Touch Wiz, Moment with some mods and no Wiz, Intercept just being the misunderstood one and now the Transform being mostly stock (thankfully committed to 2.2 though because it will need it). The Hero pretty much spanned the globe with the European Hero and the Eris. There's more at stake by not supporting those as opposed to the single carrier dead end models mentioned above. The Behold II was the biggest blunder and really ticked off the owners. There's a lot more riding on the Galaxy line than all their other Android phones put together. They'd just be absolutely stupid to not properly support the galaxy line. Just don't see them laying an egg on this one.
And in the end. I could really care less. It's going on ebay or craigslist in less than a year anyway. The last two phones that I actually kept beyond my upgrade date were the Samsung i500 and the Palm Centro. Two of the most solid Palm phones ever made and ones that had enough reliability and features to tide me over for quite a while. With the way tech is leapfrogging, I would bet the majority are ditching their Evo and Epic for some dual or triple core goodness next year. Maybe the microUSB to HDMI standard gets finalized and they can ditch microHDMI for some extra battery space. The Evo replacement will get a better screen. The Epic replacement will have a solid slider. Both replacements will be thinner. Evo2 will go on a diet, the Epic will firm up its bod. We'll be enticed. We'll drop another $200, and we'll be in a new threads saying the other phone sucks and mine rules
And in all fairness, the galaxy phones are the first ones for Samsung that actually span carriers and countries. All the others were pretty much one offs with no rhyme or reason among them. Behold (II) with Touch Wiz, Moment with some mods and no Wiz, Intercept just being the misunderstood one and now the Transform being mostly stock (thankfully committed to 2.2 though because it will need it). The Hero pretty much spanned the globe with the European Hero and the Eris. There's more at stake by not supporting those as opposed to the single carrier dead end models mentioned above. The Behold II was the biggest blunder and really ticked off the owners. There's a lot more riding on the Galaxy line than all their other Android phones put together. They'd just be absolutely stupid to not properly support the galaxy line. Just don't see them laying an egg on this one.
And in the end. I could really care less. It's going on ebay or craigslist in less than a year anyway. The last two phones that I actually kept beyond my upgrade date were the Samsung i500 and the Palm Centro. Two of the most solid Palm phones ever made and ones that had enough reliability and features to tide me over for quite a while. With the way tech is leapfrogging, I would bet the majority are ditching their Evo and Epic for some dual or triple core goodness next year. Maybe the microUSB to HDMI standard gets finalized and they can ditch microHDMI for some extra battery space. The Evo replacement will get a better screen. The Epic replacement will have a solid slider. Both replacements will be thinner. Evo2 will go on a diet, the Epic will firm up its bod. We'll be enticed. We'll drop another $200, and we'll be in a new threads saying the other phone sucks and mine rules
Truthfully speaking, dialer lag appeared with 2.1, so that would be mid or late May. Still no excuse for a fix to take that long but since I and pretty much everyone else gave up on the likelyhood of a fix a couple months back it's a welcomed surprise.
I wouldnt expect Samsung to lay any eggs on this one either, however they havnt been too succesful so far with their 'optimizations' either, be it gps or upload speed FWIW. Thats not even addressing the radio performance disparity that some have reported. It remains to be seen if the problems *can* be fixed. Bottom line is the track record by both MFGs android line-up that some conclusions can be drawn from.
Personally I think Samsung has/had every intentention to solidify their position in Android with the Galaxy line and support of it, but if all this falls back to poor integration of hardware there really isnt much they can do about it. This is of course speculation, that being said, it wont matter for most people because the phone will do what they ask of it and do most of it superbly.
I wouldnt expect Samsung to lay any eggs on this one either, however they havnt been too succesful so far with their 'optimizations' either, be it gps or upload speed FWIW. Thats not even addressing the radio performance disparity that some have reported. It remains to be seen if the problems *can* be fixed. Bottom line is the track record by both MFGs android line-up that some conclusions can be drawn from.
Personally I think Samsung has/had every intentention to solidify their position in Android with the Galaxy line and support of it, but if all this falls back to poor integration of hardware there really isnt much they can do about it. This is of course speculation, that being said, it wont matter for most people because the phone will do what they ask of it and do most of it superbly.