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Root UNREVOKED root question

arnezie

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Ok so I am rooted via the unrEVOked method and works great , easier than cracking your screen. Anyway now here is my question if I already have the drivers and the program on my laptop I can skip the driver update section of the rooting process and go right to the unrevoked to do my buddies phone right?
 
Ok so I am rooted via the unrEVOked method and works great , easier than cracking your screen. Anyway now here is my question if I already have the drivers and the program on my laptop I can skip the driver update section of the rooting process and go right to the unrevoked to do my buddies phone right?

Yup, provided that the program you have on your laptop isnt the HTC synch program lol... your buddy has an EVO also i take it? if so, should be good to go. There are some oddities with diff versions of unrEVOked not working with diff physical builds of the device, but theres a section on unrEVOked's site that tells which one to use with which device.
 
forever should work...there just may be a "hiccup" with rooting diff hardware, we can help if there is an issue. Some people have to run a few times with new hdw for some reason. Some just need to reboot or clear data and for others it works perfectly.
 
So what's the difference between forever and 3??

dunno exactly what the diffs are, but on their page it gives a list of which physical build works with which unrEVOked program(but id wager that the version you already have should work just fine, but it might take 2 attempts to get it done)....
+1 to what matt said, let us know if you run into a problem, between all of us, we've seen ALOT of issues go from "my phone is bricked" to "OMG completely fixed" in a matter of minutes.... DONT FORGET TO MAKE A BACKUP!!!!! Nandroids are your friend... sorry for yelling lol
 
So what's the difference between forever and 3??

3 includes forever...sorry run 3 you are rooting a new phone and it needs a recovery and root, misread. Though if you run forever you can flash whatever recovery you like instead of taking clockwork...i assume you already ran 3 on your own so do it again to his lol
 
When you rooted your phone, you used unrevoked3. That is what you need to use to root any completely unrooted Evo. Just do the exact same thing you did before, but skip the parts that are already done (i.e. the drivers).

As for the difference between unrevoked3 and unrevoked-forever, unrevoked-forever is the method the unrevoked team devised for unlocking nand. To put it simply, it switches S-ON to S-OFF. It comes in packaged as a flashable zip, and is meant to be flashed from recovery. They also have a package that does the opposite for unrooting that will switch S-OFF to S-ON. As you learn about what root is, and how you take advantage of it, you'll realize that what I just described is a package that you flash from recovery.

So, there are three parts that make up what we refer to as full root (misnomers aside). The first part is unlocked nand (aka S-OFF). It means that you can flash any partition or firmware (like the radios) with unsigned or different signed packages. By default, the phone is locked down so that you can't write to these things with unsigned packages. You would only be able to flash what HTC allows. With this turned off, you can flash custom ROMs, updated radio firmware, etc. This is what unrevoked-forever does.

This is completely useless unless you have a custom recovery. Recovery is basically nothing more than a tiny, single-purpose driven OS. It is mainly meant for making system-wide changes to the Android system while it isn't running. Basically, you can't completely overwrite the system with a custom ROM, for example, while the system is running. This is not part of unrevoked-forever, as you need to already have a custom recovery to flash unrevoked-forever and get S-OFF. The dilemma? Recovery sits in a partition that can't normally be written to easily without S-OFF. Of course, there are ways around this, and this is where unrevoked3 comes in play, which I'll get to in a moment.

Briefly, though, the third part is a rooted ROM, and is the true meaning of the word root, in that it gives you superuser (root) level permissions in the current ROM. It means you can run things as the root user. This is needed for running certain apps such as wifi tether.

In any case, unrevoked3 goes through the process of flashing a custom recovery for you (which you can't normally do easily without already having S-OFF), flashing unrevoked-forever from the newly flashed recovery to get S-OFF, then rooting your ROM.

So, to put it simply, unrevoked3 is a process that fully roots the phone, and gives you the ability to have full control over it. Unrevoked-forever is used as a part of the process, and is provided, mainly, for:

a) Other phones that don't need to go through the whole process that the Evo does, or
b) Those who might need to go through parts of the rooting process manually, or are doing a different rooting method.

In regards to "b", there are other rooting methods out there, such as autoroot. Ultimately, they use unrevoked-forever to get S-OFF.
 
When you rooted your phone, you used unrevoked3. That is what you need to use to root any completely unrooted Evo. Just do the exact same thing you did before, but skip the parts that are already done (i.e. the drivers).

As for the difference between unrevoked3 and unrevoked-forever, unrevoked-forever is the method the unrevoked team devised for unlocking nand. To put it simply, it switches S-ON to S-OFF. It comes in packaged as a flashable zip, and is meant to be flashed from recovery. They also have a package that does the opposite for unrooting that will switch S-OFF to S-ON. As you learn about what root is, and how you take advantage of it, you'll realize that what I just described is a package that you flash from recovery.

So, there are three parts that make up what we refer to as full root (misnomers aside). The first part is unlocked nand (aka S-OFF). It means that you can flash any partition or firmware (like the radios) with unsigned or different signed packages. By default, the phone is locked down so that you can't write to these things with unsigned packages. You would only be able to flash what HTC allows. With this turned off, you can flash custom ROMs, updated radio firmware, etc. This is what unrevoked-forever does.

This is completely useless unless you have a custom recovery. Recovery is basically nothing more than a tiny, single-purpose driven OS. It is mainly meant for making system-wide changes to the Android system while it isn't running. Basically, you can't completely overwrite the system with a custom ROM, for example, while the system is running. This is not part of unrevoked-forever, as you need to already have a custom recovery to flash unrevoked-forever and get S-OFF. The dilemma? Recovery sits in a partition that can't normally be written to easily without S-OFF. Of course, there are ways around this, and this is where unrevoked3 comes in play, which I'll get to in a moment.

Briefly, though, the third part is a rooted ROM, and is the true meaning of the word root, in that it gives you superuser (root) level permissions in the current ROM. It means you can run things as the root user. This is needed for running certain apps such as wifi tether.

In any case, unrevoked3 goes through the process of flashing a custom recovery for you (which you can't normally do easily without already having S-OFF), flashing unrevoked-forever from the newly flashed recovery to get S-OFF, then rooting your ROM.

So, to put it simply, unrevoked3 is a process that fully roots the phone, and gives you the ability to have full control over it. Unrevoked-forever is used as a part of the process, and is provided, mainly, for:

a) Other phones that don't need to go through the whole process that the Evo does, or
b) Those who might need to go through parts of the rooting process manually, or are doing a different rooting method.

In regards to "b", there are other rooting methods out there, such as autoroot. Ultimately, they use unrevoked-forever to get S-OFF.

Way to elaborate on my two sentence explanation... :D
 
Haha, I didn't even realize you posted before me. It took me too long to write that. Sorry for stepping on your toes ;).

LOL that was still posted 4 minutes after mine! Damn novel my friend :). Your in depth answers are always appreciated and my toes are in tact :D. Im sure i left him with questions haha.

Also misreading what was going on was not helpful the first time either, thats what happens when you troll when you are supposed to be working... :)
 
When you rooted your phone, you used unrevoked3. That is what you need to use to root any completely unrooted Evo. Just do the exact same thing you did before, but skip the parts that are already done (i.e. the drivers).

As for the difference between unrevoked3 and unrevoked-forever, unrevoked-forever is the method the unrevoked team devised for unlocking nand. To put it simply, it switches S-ON to S-OFF. It comes in packaged as a flashable zip, and is meant to be flashed from recovery. They also have a package that does the opposite for unrooting that will switch S-OFF to S-ON. As you learn about what root is, and how you take advantage of it, you'll realize that what I just described is a package that you flash from recovery.

So, there are three parts that make up what we refer to as full root (misnomers aside). The first part is unlocked nand (aka S-OFF). It means that you can flash any partition or firmware (like the radios) with unsigned or different signed packages. By default, the phone is locked down so that you can't write to these things with unsigned packages. You would only be able to flash what HTC allows. With this turned off, you can flash custom ROMs, updated radio firmware, etc. This is what unrevoked-forever does.

This is completely useless unless you have a custom recovery. Recovery is basically nothing more than a tiny, single-purpose driven OS. It is mainly meant for making system-wide changes to the Android system while it isn't running. Basically, you can't completely overwrite the system with a custom ROM, for example, while the system is running. This is not part of unrevoked-forever, as you need to already have a custom recovery to flash unrevoked-forever and get S-OFF. The dilemma? Recovery sits in a partition that can't normally be written to easily without S-OFF. Of course, there are ways around this, and this is where unrevoked3 comes in play, which I'll get to in a moment.

Briefly, though, the third part is a rooted ROM, and is the true meaning of the word root, in that it gives you superuser (root) level permissions in the current ROM. It means you can run things as the root user. This is needed for running certain apps such as wifi tether.

In any case, unrevoked3 goes through the process of flashing a custom recovery for you (which you can't normally do easily without already having S-OFF), flashing unrevoked-forever from the newly flashed recovery to get S-OFF, then rooting your ROM.

So, to put it simply, unrevoked3 is a process that fully roots the phone, and gives you the ability to have full control over it. Unrevoked-forever is used as a part of the process, and is provided, mainly, for:

a) Other phones that don't need to go through the whole process that the Evo does, or
b) Those who might need to go through parts of the rooting process manually, or are doing a different rooting method.

In regards to "b", there are other rooting methods out there, such as autoroot. Ultimately, they use unrevoked-forever to get S-OFF.

WOW !!!!:eek: Thanks for that. You just answered my next 3 posts days prior to realizing I was going to ask.
 
Thats one of the things that makes akazabam as awesome as he is!!! Ive seen akaza and matt work miracles in this forum, and as always, much thanks for all the help youve provided!! you are appreciated
 
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