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Evo 3D 'pro' reviews

I look at this phone having a 3d capable screen as a complimentary feature to an already bad ass feature rich phone. I think too much weight is being added to how effective/ineffective the 3d is in addition to the affect it has on the battery. With regular non 3d and non wimax use the phone will last all day and probably into the next, but I think we all knew this already so I don't know why everyone is acting all surprised.
 
MyFishWagon said:
Here is another one, posted earlier today from Gizmodo. Nothing but negative comments, though :/

HTC Evo 3D: Oh My God Make It Stop Hurting
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He still continued to bash it in the comments section, but the entire negativity resides on the 3D and he really doesnt go into much other than saying there are plenty of fast phones out there that dont have 3D. Well shut it off if it messes with your eyes and you get a great phone that has an actual camera button (I like that) and its still only $199, sounds good to me.
 
themuffinman75 said:
See is why I never rely on reviews for the simple reason that these are all subjective opinions and nothing more, not to mention that the only thing thats consistent about these reviews is that they are all consistently inconsistent. Like the engadget review for example where they complained about the battery going from a full charge to 60% in a little over an hour but they had all the radios on while taking 3 or 4 videos and 80 freaking pictures with half being in 3d. I mean seriously, what the hell else would you expect from the battery? I can't wait for 6/21 to place my order and when I get it I will then see for my self.
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I agree 100%. They are subjective opinions, and as others have said who knows what their mindset is. If someone loved the SGI and hated the Evo4G, then they'll likely prefer the SGII over the Evo3D as well. It's impossible to get an unbiased opinion on these reviews.

Plus like you said, they aren't all consistent and aren't necessarily working in real world situations. For example, leaving every single radio on like you mention, plus doing all sorts of other things like 3D videos and photos that drain battery, leaving 4G on etc, how long do they expect the battery to last? Being cognizant that radios use power, you could disable whichever ones you weren't using, as well as turn off 4G when you're not using data, which would help conserve battery life.

Also as others have mentioned, there is no frame of reference with the complaints on call quality. Compared to what? Where are they calling from? How strong of signal did they have? Some reviews say call quality was very good, others say it stunk. They don't say how stong of signal they had, whether they were on 3G or 4G, if they were calling from inside a concrete building or whether they were outside, etc. Just too many inconsistencies to get too worked up about.

I will also buy my phone on release day, and if I experience any issues that I strongly dislike I can always return it and get something else. I personally thought the Evo4G had great call quality, so I find it hard to believe HTC would produce a successor that suddenly has poor call quality.
 
novox77 said:
I finally got a chance to read and watch all the new reviews.

I have to say, the only concern I have is call quality. CNET's review actually posted a small audio sample, and I have to say, it doesn't sound very good. This will be something I'll test at the Store for sure.

Curious though: as part of Gingerbread, I thought there's an app called DSPManager that allows you to use an equalizer to tune your audio-out sources: headset, phone speaker, and bluetooth set. I wonder if this can be used to improve the sound quality.
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It's a little odd that a phone with dual mic noise cancellation (primary mic on the bottom of the handset, secondary mic on the top near the headphone jack) has a reputation for poor voice quality -- I only say this because it would only seem that if they put forth the effort and cost in designing two mics in, you'd think decent voice call quality would be a concern.

Maybe the noise cancellation algorithm being used needs a little tweaking.
 
hmm cant say that the reviews dont make getting the 3D 50/50 now. The only thing I care truly about is battery life, which I was hoping(Moderate use at work) would be far better than the Evo.

Too many conflicting reviews, some are praising(Albiet, not on the EVO's level last year), while Endgaget(Not sure about the reviewer) basically tried to destroy the phone.

Call quality issue? I can careless, I hardly EVER use my phone for Voice, I'm an email/text heavy user. And I have never had call problems/signaling issues in Philly metro area anyway.

Hmm, do I keep my EVO and root back to a Sense 2.1/3.0 mix rom?

Do i forget the reviews and judge the 3D myself?

Wait to hear if the "Kingdom" is dual core and a true Sensation phone for Sprint?

I cant do the Galaxy S2, never want a Samsung phone, sure I could be biased towards HTC.
 
NeoteriX said:
It's a little odd that a phone with dual mic noise cancellation (primary mic on the bottom of the handset, secondary mic on the top near the headphone jack) has a reputation for poor voice quality -- I only say this because it would only seem that if they put forth the effort and cost in designing two mics in, you'd think decent voice call quality would be a concern.

Maybe the noise cancellation algorithm being used needs a little tweaking.
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yep, and I was thinking that if the algorithm resides in the kernel, an OTA update (updated kernel) could resolve the issue completely. If it's bad hardware, we're screwed, unless they recall and/or allow us to exchange phones. It's almost like we need to contact HTC via facebook petition to get them to address the issue ASAP :)
 
MyFishWagon said:
Here is another one, posted earlier today from Gizmodo. Nothing but negative comments, though :/

HTC Evo 3D: Oh My God Make It Stop Hurting
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This review is this biggest joke of all of them. The reviewer seems to solely concentrate on the 3D aspects of the phone, and ignore the rest. The "specs" don't mention the dual core CPU and get the memory config all out of whack. Lack of correct detail in the review, and the 3D concentration hurts the reviewers cred, IMO. He needs to climb back on the fanboy wagon for whatever device he covets. It's obvious he won't give the 3VO a fair shake.

NEXT...
 
novox77 said:
yep, and I was thinking that if the algorithm resides in the kernel, an OTA update (updated kernel) could resolve the issue completely. If it's bad hardware, we're screwed, unless they recall and/or allow us to exchange phones. It's almost like we need to contact HTC via facebook petition to get them to address the issue ASAP :)
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Again, that's assuming poor call quality is even an issue at all. Who knows if they were calling from weak signal in a heavily fortified concrete/steel bunker, as well as which market (NY, SF, others) they were calling from. I'm very interested in finding out for myself just whether there is an issue with call quality, and if these negative reviews were nothing more then bashing any non-Apple product, or whether the phone tests weren't done in an environment that one would expect to deliver stong voice quality.

I look forward to picking up mine on release day and using it for myself to see just whether it is an issue or not. If poor call quality is in fact an issue, then I have a decision to make: do I keep the 3D and hope it can be fixed via OTA, or do I get something else? If I did choose to get something else, my options are limited because I don't like the Epic and not a fan of the Nexus, so that really only leaves the Evo4G...
 
toad6386 said:
This [gizmodo] review is this biggest joke of all of them.
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At least we can give the internet some credit: most of the comments at the bottom of that article are calling him out on it being merely a short "I don't like 3D" rant, not an actual review.
 
BlackDynamite said:
I am not too worried about call quality. I always use a bluetooth headset anyway.

I'll get the phone on launch day. If the phone doesn't meet my expectations, then I'll return it. Simple as that.

I am definitely not cancelling my preorder just because someone at engadget or whatever had a beef with Sprint for some reason and gave a crappy review.
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One reviewer said bluetooth calls were almost unbearable. Just an FYI.
 
cobalt said:
At least we can give the internet some credit: most of the comments at the bottom of that article are calling him out on it being merely a short "I don't like 3D" rant, not an actual review.
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You know, I think the "3D" is the bigggest problem w/ the phone.

Some people are adamant about 3D technology and not liking it. No different than any other "gimmick" that has come out in recent years....ie: Wii, Kinect...motion gaming.

Heres a true question, if the EVO 3D, was named just the EVO 2, with a feature for 3D, I wonder how reviewers would feel?
 
I read each of the reviews sourced from here this morning, and I have to say, there wasn't much good news. Prevalent across the reviewers were issues with radio strength and call quality (even over bluetooth). If the phone cannot pick up and lock on a signal then its value greatly diminishes, and if a phone cannot function as a phone then its useless to me. I don't much care about 4G - despite paying for the privilege its not available in my area, but 3G (and wifi, not mentioned in any review yet) and call quality are my bread and butter.

I expected a mixed bag of comments on 3D and video capabilities, that's just the nature of the technology, and overall none of the comments warrant dismissal of the new Evo based purely on 3D. I was pleased with high marks given to performance, build quality (although the camera lenses seem to be iffy at this point), Sense 3.0 and the display, which seemed to be consistent as well.

I had high hopes for the Evo 3D to take the place that my Evo 4G has reliably served the past year, but I'm going to be in "wait and see" mode while Sprint and HTC determine why their radios are not performing.

I must say, I'm alarmed at the dismissal of these professional reviews and reviewers within the comments in this thread. Its great that you may still buy the device despite shortcomings but remember, we are the consumers of these products, we are the ones who should insist on high quality. We should be complaining rather than going into denial. Think about the difference between what you covet and potentially two years of fighting with an inferior device, especially before you make that purchase.

 
I could care less about 3-D as long as it doesn't break anything on the phone. While so far it sounds (fortunately) that it doesn't break anything; it also sounds like some things are broken on the phone (most notably audio).
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Btw one reviewer said phone calls sounded fine; but the receiver side was garbled; while that might be microphone; several folks have said they received garbled calls and they were in a good service area.
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Changing topics slightly; the one thing that I just don't get is why folks will take an explicit point a reviewer makes with detail and try to explain it away; but they don't try to explain away the points that support their position. The hypocritical position drives me insane.
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Me I'm just looking for the facts. Nothing but the facts. If it has a good screen (and it sounds like it does) that's what I want to know. If it has lousy audio (and it sounds like it does) then that's what I want to know. It is what it is and nothing more and nothing less.


evotitans said:
You know, I think the "3D" is the bigggest problem w/ the phone.

Some people are adamant about 3D technology and not liking it. No different than any other "gimmick" that has come out in recent years....ie: Wii, Kinect...motion gaming.

Heres a true question, if the EVO 3D, was named just the EVO 2, with a feature for 3D, I wonder how reviewers would feel?
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evotitans said:
You know, I think the "3D" is the bigggest problem w/ the phone.

Some people are adamant about 3D technology and not liking it. No different than any other "gimmick" that has come out in recent years....ie: Wii, Kinect...motion gaming.

Heres a true question, if the EVO 3D, was named just the EVO 2, with a feature for 3D, I wonder how reviewers would feel?
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I couldn't agree more. I'm certainly not getting this phone (it's on Sprint, I'm not eligible or willing to leave Verizon, etc.)...but I'm already tired of hearing the phone bashing that is going on with this device!!! :mad:

The 3D is THAT badly done? I don't buy it for a second.

Seems to me that the latest and greatest isn't allowed to be revered unless it's made by apple. I'm really not an apple hater (I'm just not an apple user LOL)...that's just an honest observation of what happens at every product launch nowadays.

Note to the people on the fence about getting this device: Don't let phone reviewers knock you off the fence! Go to the store when it's released, play with it for a while and then make your own call.
 
You know after reading the reviews, I was 50/50. Then reading comments here, I am atleast 60/40 getting the 3D.

Then I went and looked at some of the 2D pictures from Engadget and Im sorry, maybe its just my eyes, but I think those pics look great. Even better than the EVO w/ only the 5M camera.

After seeing those I am 80/20 on getting the 3D. Im not seeing the "grainy" look that they said in the review.
 
This verdict from the Laptop Mag review just about sums it up for me:

It's a bit of a stretch to call the EVO 3D a breakthrough, especially since there's not a lot of premium 3D content yet. The ecosystem will need to catch up to the hardware, just as in the TV world. However, the 3D camera is a fun converstation starter on this handset, and Sprint has improved upon its flagship phone in practically every other way. You get faster dual-core performance, a sharper screen, and impressive 4G speeds--all wrapped up in a sleeker, easier-to-grip design. Google purists will gravitate towards the Nexus S 4G, and some may want to wait to see how the upcoming dual-core powered Motorola Photon 4G stacks up to this device. But right now the EVO 3D has the best combination of hardware and software for Sprint customers.
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you2 said:
I could care less about 3-D as long as it doesn't break anything on the phone....

Me I'm just looking for the facts. Nothing but the facts. If it has a good screen (and it sounds like it does) that's what I want to know. If it has lousy audio (and it sounds like it does) then that's what I want to know. It is what it is and nothing more and nothing less.
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+1, I am also looking for the facts, as well as an unbiased opinion, meaning NOT from someone who overexaggerates a devices shortcomings and ignores it's positives, or someone who only looks for good reviews discounting negative ones that may be factual. As you said the facts are what they are.

Unfortunately people are never unbiased, especially people who do these reviews. So you can't expect their opinion to be 100% factual with no inherrent bias. Plus you can't simply discount the Apple lover factor, there are a huge number of people that worship ANYTHING Apple makes and as such anything that is deemed to be a rip-off (basically any phone not Apple) is going to be looked down upon by them. Hard to get a truly unbiased opinion.

That is why I feel the ONLY way anyone will know for sure is to try the phone out for themselves. That way you know based on your own expeience whether the device will suit your needs or not. These reviews are additional pieces of info to help you make your decision, but your selection shouldn't be based SOLELY on the reviews of others. At the end of the road, if you are interested you need to try it out for yourself and then all the data you've obtained from different sources help you to make an unbiased decision based on what's right for you.
 
evotitans said:
You know, I think the "3D" is the bigggest problem w/ the phone....
....Heres a true question, if the EVO 3D, was named just the EVO 2, with a feature for 3D, I wonder how reviewers would feel?
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I concur. Whereas call quality has way less than stellar on any review, most of the reviews have been more critical of the 3D aspect of it, than all the other features that attract most of us to it.
 
I am fully seeing this now, if you are not the reviewer yourself, then you shouldn't be basing your decision solely on their words.

Example: Say I review a pair of Vibrams (the shoes with the toes), I would say they don't fit well and cram my toes and just overall feel and look weird to me. I have funky feet and love normal shoes so for anyone else to make there decision based on my experience would be idiotic, I have tons of friends that love them.

Not exactly on par with reviewing a cell phone, but I hope that got my point across. :D
 
I think the biggest thing is everyone is concentrating on the 3d which is not their fault by the way. If I name something the Evo 3d I am going to concentrate on that feature; It is in the name. If you go back and look at some of the bad reviews for the Evo 4G and huge part of the disappointment was... you guessed it 4G (coverage, battery drain, etc). As someone pointed out if it had been the Evo 2 or Evo Nxt (next or something like that) and followed in small print 3D Capable I truly think the reviews would have been a little less 3D heavy. I really did not expect reviewers to love this phone and that was based on 3D. Personally I am buying this phone and will rarely use the 3D function. I am one of those people that still doesn't care about 3D whether it be in theaters, tvs, game systems, phones, whatever. So if I were a reviewer that would reflect my review of that function. I can't really hate on reviewers for their opinions as I always form my own. Last thought.... perhaps we Evo users are upset about some of them talking about terrible battery life because we have tweaked our phones to our liking and know how to maximize the battery life. These reviewers open the box and use the phone as it comes to them. No customization, they use it the way the less informed or technical customer will use it. Just my 2 cents.
 
My only issue now is if the "Kingdom" is going to be dual core or not, or if the 1.2 proc is that new one that has been beating out the Tegra 2.

If it is, and I dont necessarily even need the 3D option, why wouldnt I wait for that phone?
 
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