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Evo 3D 'pro' reviews

EarlyMon said:
Maybe I'm just curious if I'm alone in thinking this way. :) :) ;)
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The way I look at it: over 24 months, an $80/mo contract is almost $2000. (Frightening, eh?) I'm not going to get very upset at the difference between $2150 and $2200, which is basically the difference between the cheaper and more expensive smartphones from Sprint.

In any case, it doesn't seem like the 3D support added anything to the price of the phone; a dual-core 1.2GHz Snapdragon Adreno220 SLCD qHD 4.3" phone was probably never going to start out lower than $200 anyway.
 
EarlyMon said:
EarlyMon's Review of 3vo Pricing on the 3D Feature:

I've heard many object to the added cost of 3D for those that don't want it. Fair enough.

In consumer electronics we know this - on each successive generation of tech, the newer generation gets cheaper for the same thing, or adds more features for the same price, or a little of each.

If I never use the 3D why won't I, personally, feel ripped off?

Because my Evo was the most phone I could get for $200 on contract and $200 is my top on-contract price, even at gunpoint.

To replace my Evo, I expect to spend at most $200, period, and at the rates they soak me on the plan, no adjusting for inflation - it's $200 or the highway, tops.

If all that I only cared about was battery and lag and so forth and I were unhappy, I'd buy the upcoming Kingdom, save a few bucks, get all that, and take hit on the 4" screen downgrade because I saved a few bucks.

But - my Evo's not broken and I'm not going spend money to upgrade it some and downgrade it a little for less money than my magic 200 - because - it's not broken.

So, if upgrading, I'm doing as I do and seeing what 200 samolians will buy me. If they left out the 3D, would they have given me other stuff? Sure. Would I use that stuff? I don't know, I already don't use everything.

Improved display made by Sharp? Check. Dual core? Check. Big step up in memory? Check. Big step up in Sense? Check. Big step up in Android? Check. (By a few weeks for those of us who go with official updates only, like me.)

HTC ever getting their camera and video act completely together? Please? Oh, well, if not, it's a phone and I can play with what they fed me instead and I ate up.

That's just me - your mileage may vary, other great choices available, you're not out of the Android club if your purchasing decisions are different than mine.

Agree or tear it up - this review is just because I felt like writing a review and I don't have a phone yet. This was not written to criticize anyone in any way, whatsoever.

Maybe I'm just curious if I'm alone in thinking this way. :) :) ;)
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i look forward to your review when you get the phone! :)
 
cobalt said:
The way I look at it: over 24 months, an $80/mo contract is almost $2000. (Frightening, eh?) I'm not going to get very upset at the difference between $2150 and $2200, which is basically the difference between the cheaper and more expensive smartphones from Sprint.
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As soon as they think they can essentially take an iPod Touch and add one or two more radios to it and sell it for more than $200 on contract, they will read that as the chance to price-gouge across the board - in my opinion.

Anything over 200 clams is paying the equivalent of that Apple tax that everyone complains about.

Add up the tech on the 3vo and tell me how the Epic 4G ever went for $250 on contract. Because the SAMOLED screen is so great? The one that couldn't be comparison shopped?

I get the price is just the price - but ... mine is $200. I was actually going to wait and get it for 150 so I could squeeze in accessories for that 200, but I'll pay for early instead.

Anyway - that's just me.

BTW - try the math on the 110/mo plan! :D :D
 
Heavy stereotypes in this post. I know it doesn't apply to all, but IMO still has validity.

The older crowd, like my parents' generation have issues with the music I listened to when I was growing up. They look at a remote control like it came from another universe. If they're willing to use a cell phone instead of a land line, it HAS to be a no-frills, dialpad-only cell phone. If it can SMS, they won't know how to use it. If it has a camera, they will never take a pic.

I'm sure we all know someone like this. They are very set in their ways and averse to change.

Well guess what? A large percent of younger people have the exact same mentality. I am also vulnerable to it. It's human nature. When I hear Justin Bieber on the radio, I can't understand why anyone would listen to it. Then I remember my parents saying the same thing about my music and I realize, damn, I must be getting old.

Tech is no different. It's constantly evolving. Some things survive; some things don't. The gimmicks are the cheap, poorly thought-out implementations that never make it through the test of time.

Anyone who says they will never want or accept 3D is not forward-thinking. It's going to completely replace 2D screens; it's only a matter of time. While the display tech still needs a LOT of work, we have no limitation on the content creation side. Our camera tech is really damn good. And the principles of stereoscopy are fully understood. And now, for the same price you would have paid for a smartphone that DIDN'T have 3D, you have the ability to create pretty decent stereoscopic media.

To me, that's a big deal, and it shouldn't be downplayed. Some day when 3D display tech becomes pleasant for all to watch, all of the content you made with this Evo in ancient 2011 will show up beautifully (assuming you don't try to do the gimmicky stuff like extreme pop-out).

It's all about forward-thinking and accepting that everything changes. Either get with it, or be called a dinosaur.

Though the dinosaurs I know are damn proud of it. To each his own. I still hate Justin Bieber.
 
novox77 said:
Heavy stereotypes in this post.
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Welcome to the club! ;) :D :D ;)

I still hate Justin Bieber.
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Good man.

edit and ps - Will we ever remove the stigma from the word gimmick?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gimmick

Aren't you saying that the 3D on the 3vo is an ingenious, unique or novel device whose benefits may not be immediately apparent?

When one of my buddies tells me I've bought a gimmick, I'm going to say, Thanks for noticing! Yes. Yes, I did!
 
BlackDynamite said:
For all of you people who keep saying "most people don't care about 3D" and also those supporting the reviewers that keep spewing the same nonsense, lets put some facts to this.

We'll ignore the fact that all the best movies are in 3D, with more and more 3D movies every year. And we'll ignore the fact that all the best tv's are 3D, with more and more supporting 3D every year.

Lets just look at the numbers.
Survey: 3DTV adoption to hit 15 million next year | The Digital Home - CNET News

According to that article, 5 million 3D tv's will be sold in the US this year. By the end of next year, 15 million homes in the U.S. will have a 3D tv.

So if this Evo 3D is the only 3D phone on the market, don't you think those millions of people with a 3D tv right now DO care about the 3D on this phone?

The 3D on this phone is the main reason I am getting it. I want my pictures and videos to be in 3D, and I have a 3D tv to view them on.

These reviewers are totally clueless when they say things like 3D is a gimmick, or actually bash the phone for having 3D.

I'm not saying everyone with a 3D tv is going to run out and buy this phone on launch day. But you can bet that anyone on Sprint who has a 3D tv will be strongly considering this phone when they are eligible for an upgrade. And if they can get a few of the people who own a 3D tv but use another carrier to switch to Sprint, even better.

3D is not a gimmick. It is the next evolution of tv and movies. The only people calling it a gimmick are people who don't own one. With more and more people buying a 3D tv every year, it is here to stay.

I guess the point of my rant is this: any review acting like the 3D isn't a major feature on the phone is clearly missing the point. Take that review with a grain of salt. And any poster saying the 3D isn't a major feature of this phone is obviously not speaking for everyone. While it's true that you may find 20, 50, or even 1000 posters online who say they don't care about the 3D or would even prefer it didn't have 3D. You can also go to just about any of the millions of 3D tv owners in the U.S. and ask them if they would like their cell phone to be able to shoot 3D pictures and videos. You'll find millions of potential customers. And if this phone sells millions, it would have to be considered a smashing success. I'm not saying it will sell millions (people are locked into contracts with other carriers, not eligible for upgrades on Sprint, don't like Sprint for various reasons, etc) but the potential is there.
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Some good points. I agree that I've fallen into the mode of bashing the 3D feature because it's not something I'm interested in. Your post serves as a good reminder that there are some people who are interested in it, especially someone who has already invested in a 3D tv.

However, I don't believe that 3D HDTVs (in their current form) are a successful technology. I believe that remains to be seen. The link you provided is to projections, and by a group that has a vested interest in making it sound like 3D is a gotta have, you should buy it feature. Those are stats that serve a purpose but they are marketing speculations, not facts and my guess is they are biased.

Yes, 3D tech is in high end TVs, largely because high end TVs are 240hz models and there's very little cost for Mfrs to make them 3D capable. But the glasses required by the current tech limit it's success. If they make 3D HDTVs glasses free it may become a nice to have feature but until that time I just can't buy into it and I think the majority of the market views it the same way.
 
EarlyMon said:
Will we ever remove the stigma from the word gimmick?
Gimmick - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Aren't you saying that the 3D on the 3vo is an ingenious, unique or novel device whose benefits may not be immediately apparent?

When one of my buddies tells me I've bought a gimmick, I'm going to say, Thanks for noticing! Yes. Yes, I did!
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LOL!

Wow, if the popular usage of the word 'gimmick' is listed LAST by Webster's definitions, then I'm going to call Webster a dinosaur.

Language evolves as fast as tech these days.
 
EarlyMon said:
As soon as they think they can essentially take an iPod Touch and add one or two more radios to it and sell it for more than $200 on contract, they will read that as the chance to price-gouge across the board - in my opinion.
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I hear ya. I'm glad the iPod Touch is still around, because it really keeps things in perspective. Like you, I'd be more hesitant to spend over $200, and I'm glad they didn't try to "Epic" the 3VO, so to speak, but given the general market prices for new phones and how much they're getting from me on the monthly bill anyway, I'm not unhappy with $200.
 
novox77 said:
LOL!

Wow, if the popular usage of the word 'gimmick' is listed LAST by Webster's definitions, then I'm going to call Webster a dinosaur.

Language evolves as fast as tech these days.
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Sometimes, it devolves to achieve the same result.

And is Webster's so far behind the times? Weren't they the ones to cave in first and accept that a dolt-word being used by Sarah Palin might as well enter the defined lexicon?

I've got lots of gimmicks in my life and I love 'em, one and all.

If you want to fight the charges that you don't like about the 3vo, why not use the tools of language to achieve your goals.

Why not just point all of your detractors at that link and let them decide what they just really said?

Work smarter, not harder. ;)
 
Too many reviews have mentioned bad call quality, to me that is a huge warning sign. If you go back and read the original Evo 4G reviews they were all positive other than battery life, this one has a lot more wrong with it. I don't care about 3D so I don't pay attention to that, I think I'll cancel my pre order at best buy and keep my original evo a little longer and see how the photon turns out. I love sense and think 3.0 looks great so I would hate to switch to a moto phone but I'm not willing to upgrade to a phone that doesn't do it's basic function well which is phone calls.
 
I hope the phone doesn't have the reception and call problems that half of the reviews seem to hate.

I'm also worried about the battery life, as the reviews for that were mixed as well.
 
Another review, a bit more positive

HTC EVO 3D Review


Kind of disappointed by the reviews so far but since I'm coming from an LG Rumor I'm sure I'll be blown away. The only other phone I'd consider right now is the Galaxy S2. But I'm tired of waiting for a smartphone so I'll be picking this up and if the Galaxy S2 gets a release date before my 30 days is up I might switch it up. If not I'm sure I'll be more than happy with this phone.
 
mikeyrocks23 said:
Another review, a bit more positive

HTC EVO 3D Review


Kind of disappointed by the reviews so far but since I'm coming from an LG Rumor I'm sure I'll be blown away. The only other phone I'd consider right now is the Galaxy S2. But I'm tired of waiting for a smartphone so I'll be picking this up and if the Galaxy S2 gets a release date before my 30 days is up I might switch it up. If not I'm sure I'll be more than happy with this phone.
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I enjoyed how he wasn't overly negative about 3D as a whole in it's effect to the overall performance of the phone. He goes on at the end and explains that it's really fast, the software is slick(I've noticed we haven't seen many reports of software glitches which is awesome) and that it's really nice in those departments. Another thing I noticed, is if you look at the E3D reviews in comparison to the Galaxy SII reviews, you notice they talk about how fast of a phone the Sammy is, touching on it's smoothness, and responsiveness. They barely touch on these things in the EVO 3D reviews, most of the time dismissing it as a super fast phone, then moving on to talk about Sense 3.0 and 3D. If the E3D reviews have swayed anyone's opinion, I don't think it's 100% accurate.
 
Hopefully the complaints about the call quality can be fixed. I am somewhat deaf so that is a must have for me. Sounds like the 3D is really a gimmick. Oh well, as long as looking at the screen with no 3D movie or games or images doesn't hurt my eyes I will be fine. I have to switch 3rd week of July and I haven't heard of anything else coming out that makes me go WOW
 
mikeyrocks23 said:
Another review, a bit more positive

HTC EVO 3D Review


Kind of disappointed by the reviews so far but since I'm coming from an LG Rumor I'm sure I'll be blown away. The only other phone I'd consider right now is the Galaxy S2. But I'm tired of waiting for a smartphone so I'll be picking this up and if the Galaxy S2 gets a release date before my 30 days is up I might switch it up. If not I'm sure I'll be more than happy with this phone.
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I saw this one a few hours ago and it wasn't to bad but again one major thing irritated the hell out of me. He said the battery sucks, but then he immediately went into what he was doing with the phone and based on what he said he was obviously using the hell out of the phone. Seriously, how can you say the battery sucks when it seems like you been using the phone for hours straight? What the hell do you expect? Some of these reviewers aren't making much sense at all. Its like buying a car, then driving the crap out of it then complain about the gas mileage. I mean, come on man!!!
 
themuffinman75 said:
mikeyrocks23 said:
http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/cell-phones/htc-evo-3d-review/12101.html
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I saw this one a few hours ago and it wasn't to bad but again one major thing irritated the hell out of me. He said the battery sucks, but then he immediately went into what he was doing with the phone and based on what he said he was obviously using the hell out of the phone.
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Yeah, I have to laugh a bit. The reviewer said he shot 3D images, video, watched 3D movies, and played 3D video games for 5 hours before hitting the 15% mark. See, now I think that over 5 solid hours of entertainment sounds like amazing battery life! (I suspect again that the inclusion of 3D may be hurting the 3VO; the reviewers just can't stop playing with the more intensive entertainment and video tasks. :D)
 
bobby2478 said:
I agree with you. It is not to say that 3D won't be the dominant force in the future, but it is still in it's infancy so to speak and not fully developed. Look back 10 years ago, High Definition was barely coming into the fold and was an option on many TV's, but only recently has it become the dominant format. 10 years ago you could buy a TV with High Def, but the technology wasn't fully developed yet and as such it wasn't the MAIN reason for buying it.

3D on the Evo is the same in my opinion. 3D is still growing and the technology is still evolving, so this device is an early adopter of that immature technology and as such isn't the MAIN reason to get it. Now in 5 years 3D may be much more prevalent and mature then it is today, but by that point the Evo 3D will be beyond obsolete and in a trash heap somewhere.

The technology and content simply isn't there right now to make 3D the MAIN factor on this phone. Sure it's a cool additional feature and an early adopter of a new technology, but in my mind that's all it is: a cool extra feature.
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So if a cell phone had an HD video camera on it 10 years ago, and you had an HD tv at the time, would you have wanted to get that phone for the HD video camera?

The Evo 3D is the same way. Like I said in my post that you guys are talking about, millions of people have a 3D tv right now, and millions more will buy one between now and the end of next year. Most of them would probably love to have a 3D camera on their phone.

You guys are getting caught up in the 3D screen on the phone. Nobody really cares about that. I care about the 3D camera. And the 3D screen is what makes the 3D cameras possible. You can't shoot (and especially edit) a 3D video without the 3D screen. Think about your old cell phone videos from years back. I bet they would all be better if they were in HD.
 
Yea but he had two issues:
Call Quality/Battery Life

The EVO 3D is the type of phone that really requires a strong Sprint network connection in order to attain maximum call quality. We did not have the best experience making calls with the EVO 3D, but if you're in a strong Sprint zone, you'll be fine.

We're concerned about the phone's battery life, however. With a full charge, our HTC EVO 3D review unit lasted under 5 hours before it reached the dreaded 15% life remaining status. We shot a lot of 3D pictures and videos, watched a half hour of the Green Hornet, and played Spiderman 3D for a while, so that must have contributed to the drain on the 1730mAh battery pack. However, it was the phone's display that whittled down the battery's stamina. We made sure to choose Automatic brightness, and switch on every single power saving option available, but the phone drained like a ditch. Our hopes were high with the larger battery pack, but the EVO 3D punked out early regardless.
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NOte he did not spend the full 5 hours tking 3d photos, watching 3d movie and playing 3d games; he did that for a small portion of the 5 hours.
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worse it sounds like call quality is very dependent upon a strong single. I live in a good sprint area; but when I go into certain buildings or cross certain zones the signal does weaken...


mikeyrocks23 said:
Another review, a bit more positive

HTC EVO 3D Review


Kind of disappointed by the reviews so far but since I'm coming from an LG Rumor I'm sure I'll be blown away. The only other phone I'd consider right now is the Galaxy S2. But I'm tired of waiting for a smartphone so I'll be picking this up and if the Galaxy S2 gets a release date before my 30 days is up I might switch it up. If not I'm sure I'll be more than happy with this phone.
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you2 said:
Yea but he had two issues:
Call Quality/Battery Life

The EVO 3D is the type of phone that really requires a strong Sprint network connection in order to attain maximum call quality. We did not have the best experience making calls with the EVO 3D, but if you're in a strong Sprint zone, you'll be fine.

We're concerned about the phone's battery life, however. With a full charge, our HTC EVO 3D review unit lasted under 5 hours before it reached the dreaded 15% life remaining status. We shot a lot of 3D pictures and videos, watched a half hour of the Green Hornet, and played Spiderman 3D for a while, so that must have contributed to the drain on the 1730mAh battery pack. However, it was the phone's display that whittled down the battery's stamina. We made sure to choose Automatic brightness, and switch on every single power saving option available, but the phone drained like a ditch. Our hopes were high with the larger battery pack, but the EVO 3D punked out early regardless.
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NOte he did not spend the full 5 hours tking 3d photos, watching 3d movie and playing 3d games; he did that for a small portion of the 5 hours.
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worse it sounds like call quality is very dependent upon a strong single. I live in a good sprint area; but when I go into certain buildings or cross certain zones the signal does weaken...
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Call quality is definitely a concern and hopefully something they can fix with an update.

As for battery, I'm not sure what other phones you've had that you would expect to handle that kind of stuff and still have good battery life. DInc., Droid 1, Droid 2, & Droid X (we own or have owned all of these) wouldn't watch a 30 minute movie, take a ton of pictures and video, have a game being played on it for more than 45 minutes along with anything else they had on at the time and had any type of battery life left. Not even the flip phones we had did well with battery life when we were texting and taking pictures.

Thankfully I don't play games on my phone nor have any desire to watch a movie on a 4.3" screen so I should be fine.
 
One of the issues I have with reviewers complaining about battery life is that batteries are as only good as the tech. I don't think there's anything that really separates, say, an Evo battery from an iPhone battery significantly, besides the mAh. In most cases it boils down to the hardware of the phone, which across the board is pretty similar in any given generation (although 3d and 4g are becoming exceptions). The only way I can really see a phone having "bad" battery life is in three cases: 1. The battery is way too small for the amount that the CPU and display draw - probably not an issue ever anymore. 2. There's some sort of hardware malfunction/bug in the software that causes too much CPU usage or otherwise burning through the battery. 3. New technology that obviously uses more power (running 2 screens in the 3vo in 3d mode vs 1 screen in most other phones).

Because of this, I find it difficult to fathom how people can say that the battery on one device is excellent, whereas the battery on another is atrocious (Sensation vs 3vo). The phones are more or less the same phone with the exception of the added 3d, which as luck would have it tends to drain the battery faster. These reviewers are using more power on the phones, and then complaining about the battery life. It's not like HTC can completely revolutionize everything and make a super battery capable of running their 3d phone at max capacity the same number of hours that a phone without that technology can run.
 
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