HTC Vigor err Rezound's battery life?

[TxGoat]

Amazon.com seems to already have spare HTC Vigor batteries to sell. They look a lot like the batteries in the HTC Thunderbolt. I'm thinking that the Vigor's battery life may be a tad bit improved on the Vigor, but knowing how cheap some companies can be, they may just use the same old battery and cut back on some other features to help with battery life. Anyone know if the TB battery is interchangeable with that of the Vigor's battery?

 

[NightAngel79]

Vigor will have a bigger stock battery than Tbolt... Link to amazon battery?

 

[TxGoat]

Vigor will have a bigger stock battery than Tbolt... Link to amazon battery?

Sorry, I would've posted in my first post but know some sites ban for posting from sites like Amazon HTC Vigor "OEM" battery

I'm really hoping the Vigor's battery life will be better than that of the Thunderbolt's. I find myself charging my Thunderbolt 2-3 times per day in order to get a full day's use out of it. If the Vigor can give me at least 1 full day's use, considering all the trouble I've had with the TB then I'm all for it.

Oh and I just bought me one since I remember how hard it was to get a spare battery for the TB when it first came out. I figure if I don't get the Vigor, I can always put this battery on Ebay and maybe make a little extra out of it if the battery supply dries up after the Vigor is released, granted it's not going to have the same demand as the TB had since it was the first Verizon 4G phone...

 

[eipee73]

According to phonearena.com the battery will be 1620 mAh


....weak

 

[rrhartjr]

According to phonearena.com the battery will be 1620 mAh


....weak

The Prime should certainly have at least the 1800mAh battery as in the SGS2..

The Korean LTE/HD phone will have an 1830mAh battery.. so I imagine the Revolution 2 will be similar.

Doubly weak for HTC.

 

[eipee73]

The Prime should certainly have at least the 1800mAh battery as in the SGS2..

The Korean LTE/HD phone will have an 1830mAh battery.. so I imagine the Revolution 2 will be similar.

Doubly weak for HTC.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. HTC consistently forgoes functionality for aesthetics. Sense is a great overlay, but can cause issues and vulnerabilities. Also since the Droid Incredible they have been notorious for weaker than needed batteries to focus on the slim look. I have an Incredible with the 2500 mAh battery from Verizon. It's thick as hell now, but at least it's functional.

 

[DroidAV8R]

According to phonearena.com the battery will be 1620 mAh


....weak

The FCC docs list the battery as 1620mAh as well.

The Prime should certainly have at least the 1800mAh battery as in the SGS2..

The Korean LTE/HD phone will have an 1830mAh battery.. so I imagine the Revolution 2 will be similar.

Doubly weak for HTC.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. HTC consistently forgoes functionality for aesthetics. Sense is a great overlay, but can cause issues and vulnerabilities. Also since the Droid Incredible they have been notorious for weaker than needed batteries to focus on the slim look. I have an Incredible with the 2500 mAh battery from Verizon. It's thick as hell now, but at least it's functional.

Not only this, but why does HTC seem to make the battery on the Verizon version of each phone weaker than the others? The Sensation XE has a 1730mAh battery. The Incredible had a battery that was substantially smaller than the N1 too.

That said, the battery in the Vigor is a fair amount larger than the TB, and
the S3 chipset should help save some power over the TB's as well. Hopefully, real world results will be acceptable, and hopefully we won't have to wait much longer to find out.

 

[eipee73]

The FCC docs list the battery as 1620mAh as well.






Not only this, but why does HTC seem to make the battery on the Verizon version of each phone weaker than the others? The Sensation XE has a 1730mAh battery. The Incredible had a battery that was substantially smaller than the N1 too.

That said, the battery in the Vigor is a fair amount larger than the TB, and
the S3 chipset should help save some power over the TB's as well. Hopefully, real world results will be acceptable, and hopefully we won't have to wait much longer to find out.

I too hope that it will last. Verizon is super money hungry. I wouldn't be surprised if they put a bug in the ear of HTC about a smaller battery. They know their coverage in most areas is too good to switch so we go buy these handsets like suckers and then people like me end up having to buy their aftermarket battery just to make the damn thing work up to par.

 

[DroidAV8R]

I too hope that it will last. Verizon is super money hungry. I wouldn't be surprised if they put a bug in the ear of HTC about a smaller battery. They know their coverage in most areas is too good to switch so we go buy these handsets like suckers and then people like me end up having to buy their aftermarket battery just to make the damn thing work up to par.

I wouldn't put it past Verizon at all. In fact, I still can't think of another reason to do this. I'm not even sure that there's a valid argument that Verizon / HTC is concerned about the phone's measurements- the technology is certainly there to make a battery with increased density but the same foot print as the stock battery. Just look at the Seidio slim-line extended batteries.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still getting this phone. I just don't like feeling like HTC / Verizon skimped on part of the design. I don't get increasing the screen resolution, adding an LTE radio, and decreasing the battery capacity by more than 100mAh.

 

[eipee73]

I wouldn't put it past Verizon at all. In fact, I still can't think of another reason to do this. I'm not even sure that there's a valid argument that Verizon / HTC is concerned about the phone's measurements- the technology is certainly there to make a battery with increased density but the same foot print as the stock battery. Just look at the Seidio slim-line extended batteries.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still getting this phone. I just don't like feeling like HTC / Verizon skimped on part of the design. I don't get increasing the screen resolution, adding an LTE radio, and decreasing the battery capacity by more than 100mAh.

It's not even the fact that I feel like they skimped on the design. IMO HTC designs some of the best mobile devices in the world. Honestly, from an aesthetics perspective, they have it down to an art (pun totally intended).

I feel it's an intentional "oversight" by the HTC/VZW collaboration to sell more shit. It's simple supply and demand and they are actually creating the demand. It's actually quite brilliant economically, but when the customers realize what you're doing it ends up bad from a PR stance.

 

[DroidAV8R]

It's not even the fact that I feel like they skimped on the design. IMO HTC designs some of the best mobile devices in the world. Honestly, from an aesthetics perspective, they have it down to an art (pun totally intended).

I feel it's an intentional "oversight" by the HTC/VZW collaboration to sell more shit. It's simple supply and demand and they are actually creating the demand. It's actually quite brilliant economically, but when the customers realize what you're doing it ends up bad from a PR stance.

Agreed. I don't think I worded my last post very well. The skimping reference was made to the battery size- the rest of the specs are are amazing, and as you said, HTC designs some of the nicest phones out there. There is no doubt (in my mind anyway) that the battery size was purposely chosen by Verizon and pushed on HTC for the very reason you identified. Disappointing to say the least.

 

[vzwuser76]

It's not even the fact that I feel like they skimped on the design. IMO HTC designs some of the best mobile devices in the world. Honestly, from an aesthetics perspective, they have it down to an art (pun totally intended).

I feel it's an intentional "oversight" by the HTC/VZW collaboration to sell more shit. It's simple supply and demand and they are actually creating the demand. It's actually quite brilliant economically, but when the customers realize what you're doing it ends up bad from a PR stance.

While I'd believe that Verizon wants to suck as much money as possible, a 200mAh difference would get you at most another hour. Think of it this way, if a 1500mAh battery gets you 8 hours, that's about 187mAh per hour of use. So a 200 mAh difference is negligible. To double your user time, you either have to double the capacity of your battery, tweak the settings on a stock phone, or play with different kernels on a rooted one.

I just don't get all of these people who think that extra 200mAh will be the key to tremendous battery life. My phone can do almost as much as my laptop can, but with a 4800mAh battery in it I'll get at most 2 hours on battery, and that's hardly doing anything on it. I know there is a larger screen, physical hard drive and such running on it, but comparing the two that's 187mAh/ hour for the phone and 2400mAh/hour for the laptop.

The reason we have this issue is because of the i*hone. Everyone wants something as slim as that, so the android manufacturers try to produce what the people want. Everytime your read a new phone review, if it's say an 1/8" thicker than the i*hone, it's a monster or a tank. But apple isn't really on a level playing field. Their battey isn't removable, that gives them a little more space for a larger battery. Then there's lack of true multitasking and no LTE. My Inc2 usually gets around 2 full days with the stock battery and most of use coming from web browsing, phone calls, & games. That's with a 3G phone. That's why apple has been so hesitant to go to LTE. They'll get around the same battery life as the LTE androids and that's not something they want. Until the LTE radios become a lot more efficient, I doubt we'll see anything other than a 3G or hspa version from them.

 

[eipee73]

While I'd believe that Verizon wants to suck as much money as possible, a 200mAh difference would get you at most another hour. Think of it this way, if a 1500mAh battery gets you 8 hours, that's about 187mAh per hour of use. So a 200 mAh difference is negligible. To double your user time, you either have to double the capacity of your battery, tweak the settings on a stock phone, or play with different kernels on a rooted one.

I just don't get all of these people who think that extra 200mAh will be the key to tremendous battery life. My phone can do almost as much as my laptop can, but with a 4800mAh battery in it I'll get at most 2 hours on battery, and that's hardly doing anything on it. I know there is a larger screen, physical hard drive and such running on it, but comparing the two that's 187mAh/ hour for the phone and 2400mAh/hour for the laptop.

The reason we have this issue is because of the i*hone. Everyone wants something as slim as that, so the android manufacturers try to produce what the people want. Everytime your read a new phone review, if it's say an 1/8" thicker than the i*hone, it's a monster or a tank. But apple isn't really on a level playing field. Their battey isn't removable, that gives them a little more space for a larger battery. Then there's lack of true multitasking and no LTE. My Inc2 usually gets around 2 full days with the stock battery and most of use coming from web browsing, phone calls, & games. That's with a 3G phone. That's why apple has been so hesitant to go to LTE. They'll get around the same battery life as the LTE androids and that's not something they want. Until the LTE radios become a lot more efficient, I doubt we'll see anything other than a 3G or hspa version from them.

I'll just start off by saying that if you followed the Incredible back when it came out that battery life seemed to vary greatly between users. I can say that my stock battery was horrible. If I did next to nothing (with GPS & Wifi turned off) it literally lasted 4 1/2 - 5 hours. If I could have gotten 8-10 hours I would have been much happier.

Either way, if you're going to vastly improve the specs of the hardware you need something to drive the ship.

 

[DroidAV8R]

While I'd believe that Verizon wants to suck as much money as possible, a 200mAh difference would get you at most another hour... Until the LTE radios become a lot more efficient, I doubt we'll see anything other than a 3G or hspa version from them.

You are are absolutely right about the likely increase in time an extra few hundred mAh is likely to add to this phone' usability. I don't think anybody really thinks that a battery with a slightly larger capacity will double the time that the battery would last. For some people though, the extra hour or so will be the difference between being able to live with the stock battery, and having to invest $35-$50 in an extended battery.

As I said before, the technology is present to increase cell density in these batteries without increasing overall size. In comparing prices of those slim extended batteries with the OEM batteries, the difference seems to be negligible. So the question is, why not use this technology in a stock battery when it can be done without increasing the overall dimensions of the phone (with the exception of a slight increase in weight)?

As you point out, there are many software tweaks that can increase battery life as well. The Sensation XE comes with Sense 3.0, while the Vigor will come with 3.5- maybe 3.5 is easier on the battery. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how this one performs in the real world.

By the way, I also could not agree with you more about the Inc2's battery life. I routinely get ~2 days out of a full charge with moderate use.

 

[jamor]

I heard the battery is like a 1650 mah

 

[rrhartjr]

I heard the battery is like a 1650 mah

1620mAh, from FCC doc

 

[vzwuser76]

I'll just start off by saying that if you followed the Incredible back when it came out that battery life seemed to vary greatly between users. I can say that my stock battery was horrible. If I did next to nothing (with GPS & Wifi turned off) it literally lasted 4 1/2 - 5 hours. If I could have gotten 8-10 hours I would have been much happier.

Either way, if you're going to vastly improve the specs of the hardware you need something to drive the ship.

I preordered an Incredible and got it the day before launch. I still have it. With regular use (much like I mentioned for my Inc2) and the stock battery I could pull around 1-1.5 days out of it. I do find myself using my Inc2 more so if I was using it as much as I was on my Inc1 I'd probably do better than 2 days. I also have the Seidio 1750mAh battery (for the Inc1) and the stock inc1 battery performed the same or slightly better than it did. As far as the settings I usually keep mobile data, wi-fi, & gps on at all times.

So yeah there is some discrepancies between users. But I think the main reasons for that is what signal strength each user is getting, and the differences between what each user consders low, average, and heavy use.

The only issue my Inc1 has now is lag, probably due to all the stuff I've got on there, but I think also that the updates to the apps are causing them to need more horsepower as they are coded for newer, more powerful processors.

 

[TxGoat]

If the Vigor lasts me at least 1 whole day then I'd be perfectly happy. I figure if you can go all day and let your phone rest when you are at rest then I'm good. With my Thunderbolt, I leave for work with a full 100% charge and then by around noon I find myself having to charge it which I find highly unacceptable. A phone that doesn't last you for the whole workday isn't a reliable phone. On my drive home I find myself having to turn off the phone because the battery is at about 2%.

 

[patchnauty]

Ok just tested this today, the Thunderbolt battery fits in the vigor just fine but has exclamation in the battery, but the vigor battery works fine in the thunderbolt no exclamation.

 

[TxGoat]

Ok just tested this today, the Thunderbolt battery fits in the vigor just fine but has exclamation in the battery, but the vigor battery works fine in the thunderbolt no exclamation.

Where did you get your hands on a vigor? Is it due out in a few days? I bet the exclamation in the Vigor was like, "Why'd you put this POS phone's battery inside me? Get it out quick!"

 

[DroidAV8R]

Ok just tested this today, the Thunderbolt battery fits in the vigor just fine but has exclamation in the battery, but the vigor battery works fine in the thunderbolt no exclamation.

Extremely jealous you get to play with the Vigor early. Anything you can share about this beast would be greatly appreciated by many- we're all DYING for any bit of information we can get!!!!

Where did you get your hands on a vigor? Is it due out in a few days? I bet the exclamation in the Vigor was like, "Why'd you put this POS phone's battery inside me? Get it out quick!"

Lol. I don't have a Bolt, but I've read plenty of posts/reviews; I just choked on my drink while laughing from reading this!

 

[eipee73]

I preordered an Incredible and got it the day before launch. I still have it. With regular use (much like I mentioned for my Inc2) and the stock battery I could pull around 1-1.5 days out of it. I do find myself using my Inc2 more so if I was using it as much as I was on my Inc1 I'd probably do better than 2 days. I also have the Seidio 1750mAh battery (for the Inc1) and the stock inc1 battery performed the same or slightly better than it did. As far as the settings I usually keep mobile data, wi-fi, & gps on at all times.

So yeah there is some discrepancies between users. But I think the main reasons for that is what signal strength each user is getting, and the differences between what each user consders low, average, and heavy use.

The only issue my Inc1 has now is lag, probably due to all the stuff I've got on there, but I think also that the updates to the apps are causing them to need more horsepower as they are coded for newer, more powerful processors.

I live in the city of Pittsburgh (one of the first LTE coverage areas) which has excellent signal strength. I can fully attest that my stock battery wasn't nearly as formidable as yours. I can say my use is moderate to heavy, but I couldn't get away with Wifi/GPS on at all times.

I also was a preorder for the INC and am using it currently. Now that I have the 2500 mAh battery my only complain is the lag that you're seeing as well. I also am ready for something with a bit bigger of a display.

 

[NightAngel79]

Ok just tested this today, the Thunderbolt battery fits in the vigor just fine but has exclamation in the battery, but the vigor battery works fine in the thunderbolt no exclamation.

Please more details pics? Anything? Feel free to pop in the rumor discussion and share (PLEASE! LOL)

 

[hovercraftdriver25]

Ok just tested this today, the Thunderbolt battery fits in the vigor just fine but has exclamation in the battery, but the vigor battery works fine in the thunderbolt no exclamation.

Are you kidding me??? Just out of the blue like that...then nuttin?

That's like my wife saying "Hey babe, auditioned a few girls today for that threesome I promised you, but you won't know who won until your birthday. Oh yeah, it was a verrryyyy sexy time too!" tears...

 

[TxGoat]

for example on the rhyme when i went to spin the screens it lagged when i spun it for the third time. Non existent with this model. I loaded like 10 apps with no hickups even with nfl mobile it was instant. the dual core is friggin awesome. Ask away any question that i can answer i will.

What are we expecting as far as battery life? I know when the TB came out people were claiming 8 hours of daily use. I would actually kill for that kind of battery life on this thing....