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***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

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Interesting. Especially if the most important part of it is ICS. By letting others test the crap out of ICS without compromising leaking the actual phone, they'd be ahead of any leaks.

However, wouldn't they need to test the radios, especially if it's got a newfangled Exynos processor, to make sure it's not another Bionic debacle?
I think no matter what problems will allways be on a phone. Its tuff to get a phone without any problems. I am sure there will be a few bugs on this release that will have to be iron out when we get them.
 
There was a great anticipation for an HTC Thunderbolt release date announcement - and then things got quiet until the iP4 was out on Verizon. People were upset, the sources of good rumors (yeah - I did it) mostly dried up.


I think this is why today's news of Unpacked's cancellation hit me so hard. I went through the entire Thunderbolt release date saga. Only to be incredibly disappointed in the handset. Then I had my eye on Bionic...we all know about the delays on that one. I ended up passing on Bionic for Prime. With all the hype, I was crushed with the cancellation of the announcement.

Now I'm stuck waiting for Spyder, which seems like a let down.
 
Does there have to be a conspiracy behind google testing a new operating system? We aren't suggesting that they're trying to fool people about the prime. Just suggesting that they have been testing on hardware already available but have more updated hardware for their new flagship nexus?

Could they be testing ICS on other hardware? Sure and they probably have and are. Internally they probably even testing pieces of the hardware wired into other devices. I just can't see testers out in the wild being given devices to test that aren't really the final design or and least what the final design is expected to be. That to me would be a valid test at all and would be a colossal waste of time and resources in my opinion.

Also just to clarify my conspiracy comment I didn't mean that as a slight. I was just pointing out that we all have a tendency to think up all these theories and ideas trying to figure out what's going on and most end up way off the mark but in our quest to figure it out we end up making it what we want instead. One think to go by is that the simplest answer has the most likely chance of being right.
 
We had this kind of conspiracy theory stuff with the first Incredible and it turned out that testers had it the whole time. Many of them even coming in and giving us little hints here and there but nothing concrete. Just face it, Verizon chooses very trustworthy testers that don't leak what they aren't supposed to. Those NDAs can be pretty nasty if you violate them so they have plent of incentive not to.

Yes, but we have a lot more players and leaks involved on this one. We now have more sites than just Engadget, which is pretty much all we had back then. We have all of these leaks from all of these sources and most of them conflict each other. So, there has to be theories. Otherwise this entire forum would be one page long. There would be no need for banter back and forth if we all weren't trying to figure it out. I think the testers that are leaking these phones are testers for Google, not Verizon. If Verizon people have the phone, they aren't leaking it, because I think the final build is coming to Verizon first and the final build is a "beast." These units that have been leaked don't look like beasts to me. The final hardware is in the hands of the testers for the first network to get it, Verizon, and these testers aren't leaking ANYTHING. Because this phone is ******ed amazing. Edit: Apparently we can't use the word We Tod Ed on here. haha

End of rant.
 
I think this is why today's news of Unpacked's cancellation hit me so hard. I went through the entire Thunderbolt release date saga. Only to be incredibly disappointed in the handset. Then I had my eye on Bionic...we all know about the delays on that one. I ended up passing on Bionic for Prime. With all the hype, I was crushed with the cancellation of the announcement.

Now I'm stuck waiting for Spyder, which seems like a let down.
There so many ups and downs here with BS storys and people will believe what ever you they hear, don't buy into it. :)
 
Let's put all the vz_wired bashing to rest. He's genuine. Next discussion. :)

Edit: You guys (plus work) have tired me out. I'm going to bed. Keep your voices down and behave. :p

I totally agree. The guy is totally legit. I have seen people who are fake before, they don't act like how he is acting. He isn't saying stuff simply for attention. He is saying it because he seems to actually know things matter of factly.

Steven, since VZ_Wired says this thing is a "beast," what do you think that means? Share your thoughts.
 
There so many ups and downs here with BS storys and people will believe what ever you they hear, don't buy into it. :)

I'm definitely on the same page as you. I think this phone for Verizon is definitely a "beast" and I believe that for it to be described as a "beast" it must have the new Exynos in it. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
 
Yes, but we have a lot more players and leaks involved on this one. We now have more sites than just Engadget, which is pretty much all we had back then. We have all of these leaks from all of these sources and most of them conflict each other. So, there has to be theories. Otherwise this entire forum would be one page long. There would be no need for banter back and forth if we all weren't trying to figure it out. I think the testers that are leaking these phones are testers for Google, not Verizon. If Verizon people have the phone, they aren't leaking it, because I think the final build is coming to Verizon first and the final build is a "beast." These units that have been leaked don't look like beasts to me. The final hardware is in the hands of the testers for the first network to get it, Verizon, and these testers aren't leaking ANYTHING. Because this phone is ******ed amazing. Edit: Apparently we can't use the word We Tod Ed on here. haha

End of rant.

I see what you're saying. If these were solely testing leaks of ICS by Google that could make some sense. I would expect it to be on some sort of previously released hardware though. I do agree what we've seen doesn't see to be quite what we've been lead to believe the NP will be especially with the profile teaser pic that Samsung released.
 
Hi guys. I've been away from the forum for awhile now, and looking to jump on the Nexus Prime wagon. I see you guys already have a party started, so I'm jumping in!

I have some pretty good insider connects, so if I hear anything about it that you guys haven't already posted, I'll be sure to share!
 
Hi guys. I've been away from the forum for awhile now, and looking to jump on the Nexus Prime wagon. I see you guys already have a party started, so I'm jumping in!

I have some pretty good insider connects, so if I hear anything about it that you guys haven't already posted, I'll be sure to share!
Sounds good.:)
 
I think that Verizon simply cannot continue to drop the ball time and again. This is flagship stuff we are talking about here. And there is no phone even remotely in it's category at the expected time of release. There will be competition in the form of the vigor, spyder, etc....but after this drops.

But seriously, this is Google's year to finally, truly, and once in for all release a phone superior to the iPhone in every single way. Sure we have our opinions why our current devices trump the iPhone but we need a Stock Android Phone to come out of the gates with full force and cut this iCrap out. (for the record I am a lifelong mac and pc user and could never buy an iPhone until now, but I won't get a phone that doesn't play nicely with the open handset alliance.)

And why not dream of a device that has nearly everything we have been asking for in a smartphone? This phone will have it all. Some of us will still have out points of contention and most of us will root our way around said inadequacies. This phone could very well outspec the supposed iPhone 5 that was pushed back to make way for the incremental iP4S. iPhones have shown it can last a 2year contract but no Android has shown to be futureproof (and by that I mean 2+ years) besides the G1, N1 & I would imagine, the NS(4G). I know some of us have stayed loyal the their OG Droids...etc but these phones are on their last legs.

Anyway, this post is clealy the rant of a very tired father of a 11 month old beast of a primeATE.

For the record: my vote is the nexus whateverwecall it with world beater specs!

/rant
 
I think Android users share a thrill for the hunt. We love this stuff. Anticipation for a phone is one of the best parts. I remember before the DX came out and I was trying to convince people hope thin it was and how awesome it would be. For no reason but to get myself excited because I know I won't change opinions on a forum. I'm glad I made the spur of the moment decision to get an OG Droid instead of the Palm Pre.

Back on track. Anyone have any speculation what big feature ICS will bring? Kinda how the Nexus S had NFC.
 
Heres another concept on ICS. There is no way that the next best Os (ICS) will run on just one processor. It would be pointless to even release it. There maybe a small problem porting Honeycomb into the OS because it was meant for a tablet. I think the goal was to have this OS run on both platforms. (phone and tablet)
 
Heres another concept on ICS. There is no way that the next best Os (ICS) will run on just one processor. It would be pointless to even release it. There maybe a small problem porting Honeycomb into the OS because it was meant for a tablet. I think the goal was to have this OS run on both platforms. (phone and tablet)

This adds creedence to the multi test device theory. Put out phones with different processors to see how ICS performs with them. Would explain why their are conflicting reports to the processor.
 
This adds creedence to the multi test device theory. Put out phones with different processors to see how ICS performs with them. Would explain why their are conflicting reports to the processor.
Yes, and don't forget the next up coming tablets.< X-Mas is near...
CITA may still surprise us with other touch pad devices as well...
 
Heres another concept on ICS. There is no way that the next best Os (ICS) will run on just one processor. It would be pointless to even release it. There maybe a small problem porting Honeycomb into the OS because it was meant for a tablet. I think the goal was to have this OS run on both platforms. (phone and tablet)


Bingo. The major feature of ICS is ICS. It's a major UI overhaul for users and, more importantly, developers. It's an operating system that is smart enough to know if it's a phone or if it's a tablet. Developers only have to write an app once and the user gets to enjoy it in it's most optimized form whether on a phone or a tablet.

This is extremely innovative compared to the iPad which runs identical software as the 3.5 inch iPhone. Developers have to write a separate app if they want it to be tablet optimized. Apple is content with blowing up phone apps and running them on a 9 inch screen. I am not.

This strategy is working for Apple, for now. The more Google tries to innovate and create new things, the more little things will go wrong. This is why non techy consumers are turned off by Android because it's "buggy"... well, yeah, but it's trying to be something special. Everyone knows things have to get worse before they get better, and this is the update that I believe will make everything better.

We have many posters in here claiming to be weary about ICS. They expect it to be buggy because it's a new OS. It's not a new OS. This is version 4.0. Android has come a long way, and it's not slowing down. With Apple fanbois actually upset about the iPhone 4S, actually contemplating switching to Android.. we're on the verge of a revolution.

Let's just hope it's not with Windows Phone :-P
 
Yes, and don't forget the next up coming tablets.< X-Mas is near...
CITA may still surprise us with other touch pad devices as well...

Wonder how ICS runs on a quad core? Lol I hope Android can muster out a really competitive tablet. I don't find myself wanting any of them more than the iPad. Since I already have an Android phone to tinker with, a lot of the appeal is lost on a tablet that I would just want to pick up and surf the net and read books on.
 
As an FYI Moto is not putting final hardware in testers hands neither. So just sit tight and ride out the mass confusion. It will smooth out soon enough.......
 
This adds creedence to the multi test device theory. Put out phones with different processors to see how ICS performs with them. Would explain why their are conflicting reports to the processor.

Yep, that's the theory I'm on right now. These hardware leaks were Google leaks, not Verizon. No one has seen the true Nexus yet, only the side of it in that CTIA teaser video, and the operating system that it will be running, which by now could even look better and be totally different. Look at the difference from the first video of ICS leaked on the Nexus S compared to the newest leak that shows it on the buttonless device. Ice Cream Sandwich has come a very long way in a short time. There's no telling what the final build will look like, but I am just hoping that it will be so polished and perfect and it will be on the most powerful and beautiful device in the world.
 
Thanks, Thats the best news I heard all day.:)

LOL

Two words - tag team. ;)

Heres another concept on ICS. There is no way that the next best Os (ICS) will run on just one processor. It would be pointless to even release it. There maybe a small problem porting Honeycomb into the OS because it was meant for a tablet. I think the goal was to have this OS run on both platforms. (phone and tablet)

Absolutely correct.

Further, for those who may have forgotten, Honeycomb was shown on a phone just before launch. It was designed to be built conditionally for either phone or tablet right from the start, then focused for optimized tablet use.

So the rendezvous of Honeycomb and Gingerbread into Ice Cream Sandwich is not as last-minute as some would have you believe.

Finally, this summer Google sat the manufacturing members of the Open Handset Alliance down and got agreement that the new phones would get unconditional update support from 18 months of time of release.

Believe it - ICS will be ready to support multiple platforms quickly, by design.

The SGS2 is already supporting Exynos, Tegra and Qualcomm processors, because in the end it's all about supply and demand.

And if this thread doesn't prove something about demand then I don't know what would. ;)
 
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