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***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

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I'm clinging to Nov. 3. My D2 just froze again (it'll turn the screen off and it won't come back on) and it reboots itself multiple times per day, randomly, and often my GPS just won't work. I'm going to throw it against a wall, I can't wait much longer. :(
 
clb2196 said:
I'm clinging to Nov. 3. My D2 just froze again (it'll turn the screen off and it won't come back on) and it reboots itself multiple times per day, randomly, and often my GPS just won't work. I'm going to throw it against a wall, I can't wait much longer. :(
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I understand you sooo much! I had the same problem with my MM (Droid), the same thing. That's why I changed it to SGS, and it's much better now. I wich you will be satisfied with the NP.
 
EarlyMon said:
Sure. This so-called reliable Russian blogger was discredited on most of his Froyo statements and now we're hearing from him again.

I'm calling shenanigans.
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Thanks for making me feel better... it's true that Eldar is more accurate when it comes to hardware than software.
 
yeah, I'm starting to agree with you guys. ICS can't be so screwed up that it's going to delay the launch.

Now, I do think it's possible that perhaps some of the features that were going to get major play during the presentation might not have been quite ready. Even a little bit of lag or a crash, and it would have ruined the excitement building up for it.

I just can't believe that SJ's death had anything to do with it. Do you guys honestly think that an unveiling TODAY would have come across as insensitive?

I can't even find any news about SJ's death anywhere any more. Condolences to his family, of course, and they'll be dealing with it for a long time, but that news cycle is over.

It just doesn't make sense.
 
Thejungle said:
I understand you sooo much! I had the same problem with my MM (Droid), the same thing. That's why I changed it to SGS, and it's much better now. I wich you will be satisfied with the NP.
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Thanks. :) My deadline for a new phone is Dec 31. Otherwise I'll keep waiting for whatever is next. I really really want the NP, but if it does get pushed back, I'll have to re-evaluate. I'm not an HTC fan, but I might end up with a Razr. But I hope not.
 
I can understand if there was a software issue with this phone, but what is stopping Samsung from showing the phones specs and pictures?

ICS will not be for just one device. It is being made for cells and tablets.
It would be stupid to release a OS that only works on one device and say, Hey we will release this OS for the other devices in 2 months.
 
Man do I hate being in the dark on stuff like this... I wish Google would come out and give us some solid information as to the status of this phone...
 
binary visions said:
Agreed.
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EarlyMon said:
On the idea that ICS is compromised.

I claim that no such last-minute takedown of ICS code or features is happening due to anything involving Apple patents, because it's irrational.

Period.

That's my opinion.

By the way - I could be right. I often am. ;)
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These products are far too developed and their pipelines have been scoped out by other competitors (it's called CI, or competitive intelligence) for far longer than we've been speculating, for them not to get launched. At this point any issues will be worked out in the great washing machine of patent invalidity and infringement claims. Too much money is at stake to delay or negate a launch. It's a high risk/high reward game and that's the way it's played.
 
EarlyMon said:
Given that Google is backing HTC against Apple, and given that the key two patents Apple is trying to hold over HTC's head were being challenged by Motorola as their prior art, rendering the patents invalid if upheld as true by the court, I'm really not buying that anything about this has to do with fear of Apple lawsuits. (Oh - and all of the news and saber-rattling on that stopped as soon as the acquisition started, and none of the reliable sources reported on the significance of that, so - you know.)

I get the guy is a reliable analyst, yadda yadda yadda, but this smacks too much of sensational conspiracy theory for me to buy into at this point.

Choose -- The announcement is delayed because:


  1. A mourning period for the friend of the Google CEO was in order
  2. Of good marketing, don't introduce your next big thing in the shadow of the iPhone announcement and Jobs death, else suffer the press hammering Apple, Apple, Apple while do
  3. Google discovered out of the blue and at the last minute that Ice Cream Sandwich, a fusion of Gingerbread and Honeycomb that been out for months, suddenly has a important patented Apple features and Apple litigation is really scary to Google and/or Samsung

Occam's Razor - the simplest answer is usually the right one.

I could be wrong, I often am. But today - I'm not buying it.
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I'm a big fan of Occam's Razor.

IMO, I being someone in the business of selling products to consumers, releasing your next big thing in the shadow of your main competitor's release is just bad business. This is where the delayed launch makes the most sense. Delaying due to SJ's death really just comes down to PR. Although not out of the question, major software problems this late in the game does seem unlikely.
 
vandyman said:
I can understand if there was a software issue with this phone, but what is stopping Samsung from showing the phones specs and pictures?

ICS will not be for just one device. It is being made for cells and tablets.
It would be stupid to release a OS that only works on one device and say, Hey we will release this OS for the other devices in 2 months.
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No way, man! Could you imagine if Apple came out last week and just showed a picture of the phone? They'd have had a riot on their hands. Could you imagine, all those mewing sheep rushing the stage?

You have to show off the smoothness, quickness, and awesome user experience. Otherwise everyone will be wondering why you didn't. It'd be a killer.
 
HanSolo said:
Now, I do think it's possible that perhaps some of the features that were going to get major play during the presentation might not have been quite ready. Even a little bit of lag or a crash, and it would have ruined the excitement building up for it.
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I've seen that often enough in reports from these shows that that wouldn't surprise me, but it would surprise me if that caused any delays.

AndroidCentral and others were agog at the incredible lock-ups of the Evo 3D at one show (that really did happen) and rumors flew that a) it would never be ready in time, b) it was possibly unfix-able, c) if they kept to schedule, no way could it all work.

There was no delay, they shipped ahead of schedule, and that problem never happened on any of the released phones.

The worst thing you have to worry about is that with all new phones, lemons happen (QA needs to step up to the plate and not allow that, across the board), and the blogosphere will contend the sky is falling.

If Humpty Dumpty falls, I recommend a good egg salad, and if you see Chicken Little rush by, I recommend a tasty barbeque. ;)

Sure - they want to put their best foot forward and have no boo-boos - but they always find ways to demo around them when they occur.
 
dr01d3tte said:
These products are far too developed and their pipelines have been scoped out by other competitors (it's called CI, or competitive intelligence) for far longer than we've been speculating, for them not to get launched. At this point any issues will be worked out in the great washing machine of patent invalidity and infringement claims. Too much money is at stake to delay or negate a launch. It's a high risk/high reward game and that's the way it's played.
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Bingo, I couldn't have put it better myself. I think a lot of the people that panic and claim "last minute" major adjustments have never actually seen the kind of business processes that large corporations go through for R&D and manufacturing.

This isn't like programming at home. You don't just open the source, make an adjustment, and publish. There are source control systems, versioning, approval, testing phases... way too much to deliver a large product change in a short period of time.
 
EarlyMon said:
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  2. Of good marketing, don't introduce your next big thing in the shadow of the iPhone announcement and Jobs death, else suffer the press hammering Apple, Apple, Apple while do
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Did you just include a while/do loop in there? Hell, if I'd known we could script all our responses I'd be way ahead of Han! :D

EarlyMon said:
And we already have voice recognition working in most all of those ways.
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I think that a main advantage of Siri is persistent conversation context, so she remembers recent and recurring concepts and can readily plug them into a new user request w/o the user having to drill all the way back down to identify it again. "Make an appointment at a greek restaurant" followed later by "Navigate to the restaurant."
 
HanSolo said:
No way, man! Could you imagine if Apple came out last week and just showed a picture of the phone? They'd have had a riot on their hands. Could you imagine, all those mewing sheep rushing the stage?

You have to show off the smoothness, quickness, and awesome user experience. Otherwise everyone will be wondering why you didn't. It'd be a killer.
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It looks like the other cell companys are giving more info on their devices then Samsung is. And it would be a shocker if Moto and HTC had ICS on their new cells as well.
 
I'm still betting on Nexus Prime (Cellebrite) or Droid Prime for the US. Galaxy Nexus seems to be attached to every euro leak -- so my guess is that is the ROTW name. Ergo all these rumors about dates related to Galaxy Nexus from people in Europe sound like they are about the Galaxy Nexus being released there...
 
vandyman said:
I can understand if there was a software issue with this phone, but what is stopping Samsung from showing the phones specs and pictures?

ICS will not be for just one device. It is being made for cells and tablets.
It would be stupid to release a OS that only works on one device and say, Hey we will release this OS for the other devices in 2 months.
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If I had to lay a bet, I'd bet it's because the OS revision and features are a part and parcel of the spec.

Moreover, to show the phone, they'd have to show it running, and therefore they'd be showing tasty Ice Cream Sandwich.

Ahead of Google.

So, I'd also lay a bet that there's a written agreement that says no one on Earth gets to show ICS before Google.
 
ItIsLikeThat said:
I'm still betting on Nexus Prime (Cellebrite) or Droid Prime for the US. Galaxy Nexus seems to be attached to every euro leak -- so my guess is that is the ROTW name. Ergo all these rumors about dates related to Galaxy Nexus from people in Europe sound like they are about the Galaxy Nexus being released there...
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well but Andrew Glass (Samsung UK -> Europe) confirmed we'd see the NEXUS PRIME soon...

so i'd guess Nexus Prime for us europeans and Galaxy Nexus for you

(also those photos of the 'galaxy nexus' were uploaded by google employees working in the us and those BGR-leaks [which i still believe are fakes] are talking about a verizon-exclusive [so 100% U.S.] 'Galaxy Nexus')

so you're probably wrong... :p
 
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BlueBiker said:
Did you just include a while/do loop in there? Hell, if I'd known we could script all our responses I'd be way ahead of Han! :D
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I was adding and attempting to say, "hammering 'Apple, Apple, Apple' while doing so" when I was interrupted by a spammer who thought he could get away with something around here. :D

Excellent catch, going to modify that post!


I think that a main advantage of Siri is persistent conversation context, so she remembers recent and recurring concepts and can readily plug them into a new user request w/o the user having to drill all the way back down to identify it again. "Make an appointment at a greek restaurant" followed later by "Navigate to the restaurant."
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Yep. Siri is mighty smart. So are the cats who made it. Exactly why Apple bought them out.

Siri's been around a while and on iPhones for a while. This new, revolutionary version of Siri removes it from phones that previously had it and reserves it to the iP4s.

Well, if the iP3gs and iP4 can't have Siri, I guess it's ok if Android doesn't have it either.

But if that takes off, the competition surrounding it will be very interesting.
 
BlueBiker said:
I think that a main advantage of Siri is persistent conversation context, so she remembers recent and recurring concepts and can readily plug them into a new user request w/o the user having to drill all the way back down to identify it again. "Make an appointment at a greek restaurant" followed later by "Navigate to the restaurant."
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I'm sorry, but I just don't get it. How often do people make restaurant reservations? I don't think I've gone to a place that requires a reservation in a year or more. And when I did, I wouldn't have trusted OpenTable or any online reservation site; I called it in and talked to a real person to ensure I got to sit where I wanted to sit.
 
xtop said:
shocking news :rolleyes:

Murtazin: Google delaying Nexus Prime/ICS because of Apple patents (Update: No) | 9to5Google | Beyond Good and Evil
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Woo hoo! Looks like we'll have an announcement soon after all!

Thanks xtop. :D

BiggestManEver said:
I'm sorry, but I just don't get it. How often do people make restaurant reservations? I don't think I've gone to a place that requires a reservation in a year or more. And when I did, I wouldn't have trusted OpenTable or any online reservation site; I called it in and talked to a real person to ensure I got to sit where I wanted to sit.
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Same here. When I saw it unveiled, my first thought was "Huh. Cool gimmick."

Something to show your friends at a party (if Siri can hear you over the noise), but not much else.
 
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