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***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

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I can tell you personally over the last 2yrs of owning a 3gs that I've barely even noticed an update since ios 4. Good for them pushing incremental updates on a regular basis but don't get that confused with meaningful updates.

Can anyone even tell me what 4.3.5 did?

Atleast you still get an update look at android phones that dont even have gb yet and ics is right around the corner. I'm just saying google needs to work on how updates get out in a timely fashion to all devices.
 
Atleast you still get an update look at android phones that dont even have gb yet and ics is right around the corner. I'm just saying google needs to work on how updates get out in a timely fashion to all devices.

I don't have one, but doesn't the Nexus get update with every android release? I would imagine the NP would follow suit and get each incremental update Google releases. It may not be as often as apple but better than a carrier release.
 
From what I gather 4460 is basically over year-old CPU clocked to maximum. Bad GPU performance, bad battery life (compared to 4S and anything 28-32nm coming later this year and early next).

I was sure about getting this thing but starting to doubt now if pure android really is worth it or better to wait for the second device rumored in Androidpolice (i815?), closer to GSMArena specs?
 
Atleast you still get an update look at android phones that dont even have gb yet and ics is right around the corner. I'm just saying google needs to work on how updates get out in a timely fashion to all devices.

That's more of a manufacturer/carrier thing. For example, Google doesn't really have any control over how quickly HTC updates their phones to Gingerbread because they are solely in charge of modifying Sense to work on said phone. Then that update has to go through carrier testing and approval before it can finally land.

Another compelling reason to purchase a Nexus phone... timely updates straight from Google.
 
if the rumors are true about the omap processor and 5mp camera, ima pretty dissapointed. iv waited 2 years for a new phone upgrade from my envtouch. i want a gamechanging phone and unfortunately this doesnt sound like one.

SOOOO, if these rumured specs are true, im probly gunna skip it and wait for the galaxy s III lte.

Speaking of the gsIII, its rumured for feburary release right? what are the chances of it hitting verizon by march?

btw, someone should make a official galaxy s III thread moderated by steven :)
 
Atleast you still get an update look at android phones that dont even have gb yet and ics is right around the corner. I'm just saying google needs to work on how updates get out in a timely fashion to all devices.

I think it is not Google's fault. It is Blur, Touchwiz, and Sense's fault added to Verizon, ATT, Sprint etc. for approval on their networks. GB is done and finished. Then it goes to manufacuters for bloat...then on to the networks for more bloat. That is where I think the holdups are. That and some of those manufactures are working on new devices all the time so they tend to forget about the previous devices or don't have the required manpower working on the updates....JM2C
 
I'm curious if there is no SD slot (prays rumor is only on including a card) then perhaps it will support USB host mode like the GS2. I haven't seen any discussion of this possibility.

At least then we could jack in a 500G USB hard drive for our Titanium backups, reloading our media, or even streaming it to the TV straight from a USB drive.

It would ease the pain of losing the slot. Regardless, though, seems silly to me to have "developer friendly" device that can't test apps from SD. *facepalm*

It's a borderline deal breaker... might go with that Vigor... just have to wait and see when rumor finally bows to reality and the facts are known.

Starting with 3.1, Android supports USB hosting... I didn't know the gs2 could do it. I guess Samsung implemented that on their own. But, yeah, 4.0 should certainly be able to do it.
 
I'm curious if there is no SD slot (prays rumor is only on including a card) then perhaps it will support USB host mode like the GS2. I haven't seen any discussion of this possibility.

At least then we could jack in a 500G USB hard drive for our Titanium backups, reloading our media, or even streaming it to the TV straight from a USB drive.

Seriously, SGS2 can do that?! You can hang a USB flash drive off of it? :eek:

So how does the omap 4460 compare against the exynos(GS2)?

Quick answer is I believe 4460 and Exynos 4210 are both A9-based and perform roughly similar in CPU activities at the same clock speed. 1.5GHz 4460 should be noticeably faster than 1.2GHz 4210 in operations where the Exynos' much faster GPU doesn't come into play.
 
From what I gather 4460 is basically over year-old CPU clocked to maximum. Bad GPU performance, bad battery life (compared to 4S and anything 28-32nm coming later this year and early next).

I was sure about getting this thing but starting to doubt now if pure android really is worth it or better to wait for the second device rumored in Androidpolice (i815?), closer to GSMArena specs?

Welcome to the forums! :)

My poor Droid ain't waiting for next year. We're getting off the train right here at Prime station, barring any catastrophic specs. My Droid is just too far gone to get me into 2012.
 
if the rumors are true about the omap processor and 5mp camera, ima pretty dissapointed. iv waited 2 years for a new phone upgrade from my envtouch. i want a gamechanging phone and unfortunately this doesnt sound like one.

SOOOO, if these rumured specs are true, im probly gunna skip it and wait for the galaxy s III lte.

Speaking of the gsIII, its rumured for feburary release right? what are the chances of it hitting verizon by march?

btw, someone should make a official galaxy s III thread moderated by steven
 
Geek 101: Android and iOS Multitasking Compared | PCWorld

Apparently they are implemented using differernt types of multitasking

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"Android lets the entire app continue to run in the background. A good example is the Nintendo emuators by Youngh. If you use one of these apps then switch to something else, it'll keep running in the background, sound and all, until you decide to close it or your phone runs out of memory.

On the other hand, iOS4 lets apps keep certain features running in the background (but not full apps; for example, you'll be able continue a Skype call or keep listening to your Pandora station while using another app, but the full app isn't running), have its state saved (as with previous versions of the iPhone OS), both, or neither, as desired. In this sense it could be argued that the iPhone OS has always supported multi-tasking via state-saving, and this most recent addition is simply one more tool for developers used to tweak how their app is experienced."

This is an oversimplification of the android multitasking. Activities are paused as they are removed from the screen. They they are essentially doing nothing. Services may remain running.

The implementation of iOS is only slightly more restrictive then Androids, but very similar.
 
How are you buying a phone now and getting another upgrade in April? Shouldn't it be a 20 month upgrade cycle with AT&T?

I'm in the same boat. I really want this phone but not sure how long before it comes to AT&T. I've seen others say they're buying the 4s this Friday then selling it off when the NP comes out to fund buying the international version and putting it on ATT.

Seems like a lot of screwing around but hey, it's probably worth it :)

Cross upgrades. Two lines on my family plan are open. Mine opens in April. But SGSII is just so tempting now - especially with not knowing if NP will land with AT&T. I'm really wanting the resolution mostly, as ICS will come one way or another. That and that curved screen.

I was going to do that if the iPhone 5 came out but only sell it right away. But it's just a hassle. ~$236 for the iPhone and then the price of the next phone.

Qwerty there is NOTHING wrong with the SGS2. We Verizon folks were quite distressed that we didn't get it. But if you want to wait for HD screen and 4G, that's your discretion :)

But you guys will get SGS2 HD! But for me, it might be months later just like the Nexus S. If that's the case. SGS2... here I come!
 
if the rumors are true about the omap processor and 5mp camera, ima pretty dissapointed. iv waited 2 years for a new phone upgrade from my envtouch. i want a gamechanging phone and unfortunately this doesnt sound like one.

SOOOO, if these rumured specs are true, im probly gunna skip it and wait for the galaxy s III lte.

Speaking of the gsIII, its rumured for feburary release right? what are the chances of it hitting verizon by march?

btw, someone should make a official galaxy s III thread moderated by steven :)

My experience with TI(OMAP) is that they are way better on battery and power then Qualcomm and Nvidia. I can't speak to Samsung. No one has used the new chip, while it is dissappointing it isn't a 32nm chip for even better power usage it could be worse.

Regarding the 5MP camera. Megapixels mean crap if it has a bad sensor and optics. Those are more important and why you can never replace a good camera with a phone (right now).
 
One of the disappointing things I find in the specs is that we will have a CPU and GPU that is a year or so old. I wanted the 4212 Exnyos because it was new tech and would not be outdated for awhile. In two years the OMAP will be 3 years old and the GPU will be almost 4 years old. In the tech world that is extremely ancient. I wanted a device that some room for growth and get my two years worth. Damn shame they did away with one year contracts.
 
My experience with TI(OMAP) is that they are way better on battery and power then Qualcomm and Nvidia. I can't speak to Samsung. No one has used the new chip, while it is dissappointing it isn't a 32nm chip for even better power usage it could be worse.

Regarding the 5MP camera. Megapixels mean crap if it has a bad sensor and optics. Those are more important and why you can never replace a good camera with a phone (right now).

but the GPU is pretty old... ~2 years old, only overclocked... :/
 
7000!!!!


Thank you.....Thank you....Thank you....

I'd just like to thank my work for not interrupting me during a very important moment in my life. Second, I would like to thank my 3gs for sucking enough to prompt me being in this forum waiting desperately for the NP.

....but most importantly, I would like to thank all of those that stumbled on the reply button so that I may snipe the 7000 post honor.
 
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